Michael Mann Says Greenland Is Warmer Now Than When Vikings Farmed There

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1. Gail Combs says:

   May 7, 2015 at 1:56 pm

   Perhaps it is time to made a penal colony in the North of Greenland for the likes of:
   Peter Gleick
   Katharine Hayhoe
   Michael Mann
   Jeff Masters
   Michael Oppenheimer
   Naomi Oreskes
   Jonathan Overpeck
   Benjamin Santer
   Kevin Trenbreth
   Don Wuebbles

   And the rest of the Merry Band at the Aspen Global Change Institute outreach project Climate Communication

   I suggest reading the whole comment of manacker

   manacker | September 14, 2011 at 1:18 pm |

   Who is “Climate Communication” and what are the organization’s mission, goals and objectives?

   CLIMATE COMMUNICATION IS…
   …dedicated to improving public understanding of climate change.

   We combine expertise in climate science with excellence in communication

   “Excellence in communication” = good PR (propaganda)

   ….How did the ClimateWorks Foundation start? Who was behind it? The ClimateWorks Foundation emerged from a study commissioned by six foundations: the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the David and Lucile Packard Foundation, the Energy Foundation, the Doris Duke Charitable Foundation, the Joyce Foundation, and the Oak Foundation. The 2007 study “Design to Win: Philanthropy’s Role in the Fight Against Global Warming” (pdf), sought to answer a critical question: What would it take to achieve a real “win” in the battle against climate change? The authors of Design to Win interviewed more than 150 of the world’s leading experts on energy, climate change, and forests to identify the top priorities for avoiding dangerous climate change. Using cost curves and other research, the Design to Win analysts ranked investments by their potential to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and their ability to prevent the “lock-in” of long-lived, carbon-intensive infrastructure. The ClimateWorks Foundation was built on the principles identified in the Design to Win study and launched in 2008 with the support of three foundations: the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the David and Lucile Packard Foundation, and the McKnight Foundation. (Learn more about the founding story of the ClimateWorks Foundation at: http://www.climateworks.org/about/our_history/)

   http://www.myphilanthropedia.org/top-nonprofits/bay-area/climate-change/climateworks-foundation

   From “Design to Win, Philanthropy’s Role in the Fight Against Global Warming ”, the stated manifesto for The ClimateWorks Foundation:
   design_to_win_final_8_31_07.pdf

   http://climatecommunication.org

   OUR CONCLUSIONS
   Our analysis yielded a short list of the initiatives with the most potential to set the world on a low-carbon path. Four overarching priorities orient our investment road map:
   First, don’t lose – the battle could be lost in the next decade.
   Catastrophic climate change – far worse than anything we have experienced – will be unavoidable if we don’t prevent a massive “lock-in” of emissions from new coal-fired power plants, long-lived industrial infrastructure, inefficient buildings, car-centric cities, and irreversible deforestation (Figure 1). The First Rule of Holes: when you’re in one, stop digging….

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   • darrylb says:

     May 7, 2015 at 2:54 pm

     Gail, how could you leave out the High Priest of alarmism
     AL GORE
     I would also send Phil Jones, The 97 percenters Cook and Dana N. and their psychologist
     sidekick whose name escapes me

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     • darrylb says:

       May 7, 2015 at 3:14 pm

       Also, my aforementioned John Cook is offering an online course through the U. of Queensland, Australia , ‘Making Sense of Climate Denial’
       Week one lecturer is Stephan Lewandowsky, whose name I previously could not think of.

       Other lecturers include surprise, surprise, Mann, Hayhoe, and Oreskes.
       Cook’s lecture is ‘Inoculating against science denial’

       I just hope I live long enough to this surprisingly small group being epitomized as shining examples of science denial and how not to do science.

       I do not think any legal consequence will ever befall them, but I wish it could.

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       • Gail Combs says:

         May 7, 2015 at 4:18 pm

         Since they are ‘Politically Correct’ Progs, why don’t we buy them a one way ticket to the land of their beloved Muslim pals.
         https://media2.stickersmalin.com/produit/100/stickers-devil-smile-R1-143760-2.png
2. pinroot says:

   May 7, 2015 at 2:34 pm

   Mann’s counting on people to just repeat this rather than researching for themselves. Sadly, for many, that will be the case.

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   • rah says:

     May 7, 2015 at 2:42 pm

     And when they run up against people like us that can show them Mann is a liar?

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     • sfx2020 says:

       May 7, 2015 at 3:32 pm

       They can dismiss you as cranks. It’s a very effective tactic.

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       • rah says:

         May 7, 2015 at 3:39 pm

         Only when one holds the only microphone or a bully pulpit. But I’m talking about direct two way communications between individuals. Those that would parrot such a claim without the knowledge to back it up and can be shown via the links provided here and elsewhere that such a statement is an obvious lie. That it is not planting season in Greenland.
       • Don says:

         May 7, 2015 at 5:48 pm

         Yeah, just call someone a”denier”, it is their position of last resort.
       • Gail Combs says:

         May 7, 2015 at 5:58 pm

         Name calling is the last resort of those who have lost the debate. Progs often resort to this playground bully tactics since they are not long on knowledge or logic.
3. Gary H says:

   May 7, 2015 at 3:32 pm

   GISP2 Ice core temp series, last 10,000 years.

   http://hot-topic.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/GISP210klarge.png

   During the years 800-1200, Iceland and Greenland were settled by the Vikings.

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4. SxyxS says:

   May 7, 2015 at 3:42 pm

   So, Greenland was colder in a time when it was so green that vikings called it Greenland
   than it is now in a period when everything is covered with snow.
   Strange kind of logic

   I guess you will find more shit inside one inch of a climate prostitute scientist than in a one square mile cesspit.

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   • DD More says:

     May 7, 2015 at 4:39 pm

     But those vikings had the permafrost plows (technology since lost, like greek fire) that allowed them to work the soil much earlier and get the crops in to meet the number of growing days needed. If we could just find the design of the plows, they would be able to grow wheat / barley again.

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     • Gail Combs says:

       May 7, 2015 at 5:07 pm

       With a lot of digging I unearthed a Viking Plow out of a glacier in Greenland.

       http://www.escocorp.com/ProductFeature618x278/SnowPlowC_Feature_618x278.jpg

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   • Ed Gruberman says:

     May 7, 2015 at 9:14 pm

     I guess the name Iceland was taken.

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5. sfx2020 says:

   May 7, 2015 at 3:48 pm

   “But I’m talking about direct two way communications between individuals. ”

   That’s different of course. However the treatment of Dyson shows how even a top scientist can be dismissed by the media.

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6. doctorknow007 says:

   May 7, 2015 at 4:08 pm

   I can’t say it better! https://youtu.be/C_Kh7nLplWo

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7. oarubio says:

   May 7, 2015 at 6:46 pm

   Maybe they grew snow peas? 😀

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8. johnbuk says:

   May 7, 2015 at 7:36 pm

   I look forward to seeing Mr Mann in his Speedos on the beach in Greenland soon …. on second thoughts apologies for that obscene mental vision.

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9. Climatism says:

   May 8, 2015 at 12:20 pm

   Reblogged this on Climatism.

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