New York Times Wants To Build That Wall

The New York Times claims that global warming is causing sea level rise and more frequent destructive storms – so New York needs to build a wall.

The $119 Billion Sea Wall That Could Defend New York … or Not – The New York Times

President Trump says it is a costly, foolish idea.

(25) Donald J. Trump on Twitter

Sea level at New York is rising at the same slow rate as it did when Abraham Lincoln was president. There is no indication humans have had any impact or that New York is under any threat.

Sea Level Trends – NOAA Tides & Currents

The number of landfalling US hurricanes and US major hurricanes have both declined.

There is no indication that New York hurricanes have increased.

HURDAT Re-analysis

In 2016, the Washington Post was terrified by the lack of hurricanes.

The U.S. coast is in an unprecedented hurricane drought — why this is terrifying – The Washington Post

The worst hurricane to hit New York occurred in 1821.

ARM-14-04840-P1_The_East_Coast_USD_100_billion_hurricane-9-4

06 Oct 1821, 1 – The Lancaster Gazette at Newspapers.com

This came six years after another massive hurricane.

New York’s brilliant governor believes that New York didn’t used to have hurricanes.

Cuomo Claims NY ‘Did Not Have Hurricanes,’ Forgets Superstorms of 1821, 1938 | KNSS 98.7/1330

Hurricanes go all over the North Atlantic. Even Iceland has been hit by many tropical cyclones.

Cyclones (Tropical) – Vulnerability Assessment

Eight of the ten deadliest US hurricanes occurred more than 100 years ago.

Nine of the 25 deadliest atlantic hurricanes occurred around the time of the Revolutionary War.

The Deadliest Atlantic Tropical Cyclones, 1492-1996

The deadliest Atlantic hurricane occurred in 1780, and destroyed every single building in Barbados.

30 Dec 1780, 2 – Jackson’s Oxford Journal at Newspapers.com

1893 Atlantic hurricane season – Wikipedia

Obama took full advantage of Hurricane Sandy for political purposes, then bought a mansion on the beach in New England.

Opinion | The Next Hurricane, and the Next – The New York Times

This si what New England looked like after the 1938 hurricane.

According to NASA’s James Hansen, Lower Manhattan has been underwater for two years already.

Stormy weather – Global warming – Salon.com

After Sandy, New Yorkers got a sneak preview of a low carbon footprint and the Green New Deal.

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29 Responses to New York Times Wants To Build That Wall

  1. JSMill says:

    Just had to put that picture from Martha’s Vineyard on there, eh….
    Now I’m left wondering if pondering a repeat of the 1938 ‘cane makes me a “bad person.” Sheesh!

    (PS keep up the great work … it IS getting out there, despite the censors)

  2. John F. Hultquist says:

    Say a sea wall is built and at some future date the gates are closed.

    Where does the water of the Hudson Valley go. (13,000 square miles)

  3. Dave N says:

    The cost of building such a wall still currently outstrips remediation costs (when such storms happen) by orders of magnitude. No surprise that alarmist loonies at NYT have come up with such drivel.

    • Al Shelton says:

      Mr. T. Rex…
      Where have you been?
      The wall is not about immigrants. It is about ILLEGAL immigrants.
      Abide by the law, and you are welcome.
      No?

    • John F. Hultquist says:

      Mr. T. Rex,
      Demographics is destiny, so someone wrote.
      Responsible immigrants are desirable and welcome.
      Open borders are not a great idea.
      Well, they are if the goal is to destroy nations.
      {See: George Soros}

    • Terry Shipman says:

      My house has four sides called WALLS. It has numerous openings called DOORS. Two of these doors have a button with a small sign above that says PLEASE RING THE BELL. If someone breaks into my house I will call the police and have them removed.

      This country has openings in its borders called PORTS OF ENTRY. If someone fails to ask permission to enter then they should be removed forthwith just as someone would be removed from my house for the crime of breaking and entering.

      The country needs a southern wall for the same reason my house has walls and locked doors. Our country has always welcomed immigrants who request the proper permission to enter. Sometime in the past my family were immigrants. But they did it legally.

      Any questions?

      • Gator says:

        Any questions?

        Yes. Why call the police when you should be calling an ambulance? The police do not have gurneys.

      • Archie says:

        “If someone breaks into my house I will call the police and have them removed.”

        You are a very tolerant person. If someone breaks into my house, I’ll shoot them and then call the police to have them remove the body.

        • Terry Shipman says:

          Notice I didn’t say exactly what shape the intruders would be in when the police removed them. The coroner would have an ample supply of body bags. The point I was making was that just as a citizen has a right to be secure in his home the country as a whole has a right to be secure within the borders of the country. I probably should have rephrased and said they would be charged with breaking and entry-if they survived my utilization of my second amendment rights. I like Gator’s point that the police don’t use gurneys.

          • Colorado Wellington says:

            The vaguely defined nature of the intruders’ removal was the first thing that caught my eye in your original comment.

    • Colorado Wellington says:

      T-Rex,

      What is your opinion of Caplan’s deceptive treatment of the crime rates of illegal immigrants vs. native U.S. population?

  4. Gamecock says:

    Choosing to live on the coast involves risk. It is not government’s job to mitigate the risks from people’s choices. If living in NY becomes too risky, people will move.

    If it’s too risky, NYT, recommend people MOVE.

    Adaptation has worked for thousands of years.

    • Bob Cherba says:

      Amen. Over the years my wife and I have lived in areas at risk of hurricanes, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, and tornadoes. We now live in Tucson, AZ, which doesn’t have an history of any of these risks. Our worst storms involve a few days of rain that fill dry river beds and sometimes flood floodplains (surprise, surprise). So, we adapted. (I consider us climate refugees from Michigan. We escaped the MI weather and political climates.)

  5. Dave says:

    Climate change sparking ‘humanitarian crisis’ in Solomon Islands.

    ‘Sea levels in the Solomon Islands have risen over 15 centimetres, due to climate change and trade winds physically pushing water into this part of the Pacific. Dr Simon Albert says it’s a grim look into the future, with predictions that the entire globe will face the same rates in the next 100 years. With the world heating up, drastic rises in sea level mean whole islands are literally disappearing. It’s an extraordinary sight, and proof positive we must do more, right now.’

    Check out this story at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1cdCUZNh04 and https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-07/rising-sea-levels-blamed-for-wiping-out-five-islands/7392986

    The 60-minutes program and ABC article conclude that inhabited reef islets in a lagoon in the Solomon Islands are being lost to rising sea levels and trade winds brought about by climate change. I would have thought that sand on reefs constantly moves around because of tides and currents. The most obvious explanation is that the islets are being naturally eroded. The suggested high sea level rises seem false to me. I believe that the scientific basis for Dr Simon Albert’s conclusions needs to be exposed and Tony Heller is the best person to do this.

    There are many other ‘youtube’ postings on the same subject. Google: – sea level rises in the Solomons youtube

  6. CheshireRed says:

    Very good.

    NYT pretending a *lack* of hurricanes is ‘terrifying’ reveals the true depths of their ideological depravity. It’s literally an absurd position to take but simply proves no climate propaganda is too extreme for them to lie or fearmonger about.

    No wonder they’re a media laughing stock.

  7. richard says:

    Sign of the times-

    common sense is breaking thru

    Guardian news vid-
    ‘What will you tell your children?’: Greta Thunberg blasts climate inaction at Davos
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D9iWNL2ahg

    184 up votes

    374 down votes

  8. arn says:

    “Funny” thing
    -right now you have millions of people in New York
    who haven”t seen any significant sea level rise in decades,
    but will still be scared by this nonsense article.
    And many of them are old enough to remember the ice age scare of the 70ies.

    Yet they fail to trust their own eyes and common sense
    and don”t even dare to ask how the so scientific ice age could turn into
    the so scientific warming.

    An easy way to take away the fear.
    Reality.
    Fort Denison: Sea level : today 6 cm lower than 115 years ago.
    And on the opposite site of the planet.
    Bishops Rock-UK.
    I havent found the sea level data,
    but old photos show a similar thing as with Fort Denison.

  9. Scott says:

    Thank You!!! I asked for an eastern seaboard sea level rise video and here it is. So good. It’s reaching many of my climate crazy friends and they are actually listening. Keep it up

  10. Andy says:

    I’m not sure if hurricanes hitting the USA is a good statistic compared to ACE or number of big storms Tony.

    I’ve said it before and said it again.

    Climate AGW advocates say tropical storms are betting bigger and more frequent. The stats don’t show this. So if the stats don’t even show even an intensity rise there is no evidence at all for proving either way how the tracks go, ie are tropical storms getting more or less likely to hit the USA?

    I don’t believe you can show this, apart from a long gap. Might be a short gap next time.

    I think it is far more profitable to concentrate on the energy of storms rather than where they hit.

    Andy

    • tonyheller says:

      The discussion is about protecting New York from hurricanes. The number of hurricanes hitting New York isn’t relevant?

  11. Petit_Barde says:

    Why bother with a wall since according to the GREATest climat prophet James Hansen, Manhattan is already under hundreds feet of water ?

  12. dick@wt.net says:

    The corps of Engineers has never seen a project they didn’t like, it’s so much fun playing with our money. Their plan for New Orleans is also too expensive and over the top. Many better solutions available.

  13. Winston says:

    They better put some drains in their wall to let the water (and rats) out.

  14. Windsong says:

    Hurricane Maria ranks as the third deadliest US hurricane due to the addition of “estimated excess deaths.” Since there is no single federal government methodology for attributing deaths to a storm, a study that includes residents killed in car crashes six months after the storm will work just fine. But these government warehouses in PR recently discovered still stuffed with disaster relief supplies from 2017 make me wonder: How many of those estimated excess deaths could have been averted if the food, water, tents, stoves, generators, etc, had been distributed in the aftermath of the storm?

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