Media Efforts To Destroy The Economy Continue

Social media and the press corps are warning that the US economy is about to crash and burn due to the end of the stimulus money – which is keeping tens of millions of people from becoming homeless.

At a time when we need to be getting people back to work, the press and social media are also ramping up their fear mongering about the end of the lockdowns, saying that cases have “spiked.”

The reason cases have spiked, is largely because the press has been demanding more testing. The more people you test, the more positives you are going to find. It is a fairly useless metric as a result. 

(3) UW Virology on Twitter: “Another huge #SARSCoV2 #COVIDー19 #HCoV19 testing day on 6/10 @UWVirology. 3766 PCR tests run, 2.0% positive. https://t.co/xxOstrifmv” / Twitter

Even with the increase in testing, the number of new positives in the US has been declining.

And the number of deaths has declined sharply.

United States Coronavirus: 2,089,701 Cases and 116,034 Deaths – Worldometer

Arizona has been at the epicenter of press hysteria, because they were one of the first to allow their citizens to work and live a normal life. The press has been claiming hospitalizations in Arizona have spiked. But the Arizona data shows new hospitalizations are down, and deaths have plummeted since the state “reopened” a month ago.

ADHS – Data Dashboard

We ate at our favorite dog-friendly restaurant in Scottsdale, Arizona four weeks ago.

The press and social media can’t stand the idea of Americans working and enjoying life, and are continuing their disinformation campaign to rip America apart. At the same time they are promoting mass rioting and looting, the press is claiming that people working is causing a “spike.” The sedition is occurring right out in the open. Hopefully more people are becoming aware of it.

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48 Responses to Media Efforts To Destroy The Economy Continue

  1. Larry says:

    Same thing happening in Canada. It’s hard to get data on COVID deaths, as the press now only wants to talk about cases, at the same time as testing is ramped up. It’s even harder to get age data on deaths, really the most important information about how at risk the different age groups really are. My view is still that reasonably healthy folks under 65 can just ignore the virus.

  2. Disillusioned says:

    Thank you Tony!

    What is amazing, it is as if they print and broadcast garbage even though know it will backfire in their faces very quickly. Their only salvation is that by then they’ll be onto the next scare.

    Also amazing is, their readership are never the wiser. Time after time after time.

    • KevinPaul says:

      Disillusioned it’s fantastic to see you are still under no illusions. I see a little hope in small areas of catastrophic climate change adherents. They have witnessed the dissonance surrounding covid 1984 medical science and now entertain the realisation that if medical science can be so dysfunctional then it can also hold true for climate science. This whole dystopian scenario they have painted may backfire and leave them painted into a corner.

      • Disillusioned says:

        Kevin,

        Once disillusioned, there is no going back to the blindness.

        I hope your last sentence comes true. Thanks for the note.

    • Vegieman says:

      Don’t we already know that the media is merely a puppet used by an elite force to attain its agenda:

      https://realclimatescience.com/2020/05/free-and-independent-news/

      The agenda? Bring an end to the mother earth destroying, socio-economic order of the west and usher in the equality/tolerance espousing, socialistic, earth worshipping death culture?

      If we don’t see all that is being aligned with the truly sinister purpose that it has, and not rise to the occasion, the conversation here and its effect is no different than the gathering at the local coffee shop.

      https://youtu.be/PzNbNbIFJbE

  3. Matt says:

    Good post, Tony!

    The PCR Test with falsely positive results becomes a major issue if real infection rates are very low. As a matter of fact, this test can maintain the pandemic alive even without having people infected. Wonder of medicine … and simple numbers.

    If it wasn’t not for political gain it is beyond me that the link between testing volume, test accuracy and result isn’t more in the focus of media. But indeed, it’s an election year.

    Keep it up, cheers from Chile,
    Matt

  4. rah says:

    They’ve lost! They won’t be able to stop the recovery of the economy. Most people have had it with their drum beat of fear. I see it in my travels and interactions as a truck driver. Some companies keep up the silly masks with handing paperwork back and forth between the driver and the shipping clerk but most seem to be lightning up. My last stop yesterday was at a plant in Tonawanda, NY and where before they wouldn’t even allow a driver in the building and the fork truck drivers were wearing masks, I went in to sign the paperwork and no one was wearing a mask.

    The press are just looking stupid as they go back to their Rona fear propaganda campaign after ignoring the lack of masks, social distancing, and recommended hygienic practices of the protesters and looters.

    Indiana went to stage IV today (Friday). Up to 50% capacity at race tracks so I might actually get a chance to go see the Sprints run on the dirt this season.

    Anyway, this truck driver refuses to live in fear and is getting sick and tired of having to accommodate the propaganda driven phobias of others. A “phobia” is defined as an “unreasoned fear”. I suggest we start deriding those that are so susceptible to the propaganda as “Ronaphobics”. Make fun of them. Point at them and laugh. Needle them. Do to them exactly what the left has been doing to us average people for years with their PC crap!

  5. Kurt in Switzerland says:

    Yes, more and more people are becoming aware. Ironically, this is the one positive thing the BLM protests have brought: they have exposed the farce of the continued SARS-nCoV-2 induced lockdowns. By extension, they have exposed the craven hypocrisy of the Left.

    BTW, somebody should inform the genius editors at BuzzFeed that Jumbo Jets have four engines, not two.

  6. MattofNJ says:

    Just look at the weekly deaths to get a perspective of this pandemic:
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

    Looks like a bad flu season to me. Does continuing to ruin the economy make any sense at this point?

  7. Dave Ward says:

    Re the first image: I think most people would take “Jumbo Jet” to mean a B747, which has four engines, not two. If that’s the level of reporting accuracy on BuzzFeed, they deserve to go bust…

  8. Matthew says:

    They are fifth-column traitors, spreading misinformation and lies.

  9. John F. Hultquist says:

    “Cases” have never been a useful metric.

    Those putting an emphasis on “cases” ought
    to get into a different line of work. Although
    it is hard to think of something their mental
    abilities might handle.
    Also, “deaths” as a metric, while better, is
    prone to issues.

    WSJ has a long article about the problems
    in NYC.
    Panic2020. Sad.

  10. reg cole says:

    How many deaths? Who cares how many new cases. The more people they find who may have had it, the lower the rate of deaths per million population.

  11. czechlist says:

    Been saying since the Clinton admin – it’s the media, stupid.
    Peter Jennings said he reported what HE thought the people needed to know.
    Walter Cronkite said HE missed setting the national agenda
    For decades it has been difficult to get “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth ” even in our courts. Now I wonder if we ever did.

  12. Samuel Glasser says:

    All the bar graphs published by Worldometer are inaccurate. It is easy to see that cases and deaths are reported on the day the report is received, and not on the actual day that the new cases and deaths occurred. Only Sweden reports accurately (as shown on this website). The New York Times does compute a seven day moving average. And this transforms the daily data to a representative line graph.
    (If you need a hint: check the two days of the week when lowest values are regularly reported – without exception.)

  13. Sharpshooter says:

    What place was that in Scottsdale? Looks like Four Peaks.
    Have you tried Uncle Bears? The one in Queen creek is great!! Our Puggle heartily endorses it1

  14. rory says:

    I say anyone who has the mistaken belief that life is better anywhere else should be told to pack up and go live there! The media is only looking for dollars and will deceive all to fill their pockets.

  15. Alan says:

    Hey Tony – which OHSO location is that? Email me – let’s get together for a beer!

  16. Douglas Hoyt says:

    Lots of info on CV-19 at https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/#latest

    Abstract:
    This means that the new coronavirus is probably much more common than previously thought and the lethality per infection is up to five times lower than previously assumed. The real lethality could thus be well below 0.1% and hence in the range of strong seasonal influenza.

    In fact, several studies have now shown that up to 60% of all people already have a certain cellular immunity to Covid-19, which was acquired through contact with previous coronaviruses (common cold viruses). Children in particular often come into contact with such coronaviruses, which could help explain their insensitivity to Covid19.

    The new Swiss study may also explain why antibody studies even in hotspots like New York or Madrid found infection rates of at most about 20%, as this would correspond to an actual rate of nearly 100%. In many regions, the actual prevalence might already be well over 50% and thus in the range of ​​herd immunity.

    Should the Swiss study be confirmed, the assessment of Oxford epidemiologist Prof. Sunetra Gupta would apply, who predicted early on that Covid-19 is very widespread and its lethality below 0.1%.

  17. Craig says:

    Thanks for this. With your help I’ve been able to cure some people of their hysteria.

  18. Alan says:

    Tony – do you do ASP.Net/c# programming? I need to hire some help with a project I have going on.

  19. gregole says:

    Here in Arizona all the non-essential drivers are back on the roads including me. I was allowed back in to work last Wednesday. Been working from home. Not sure why it was okay to loan my company my office for some months but that’s over now.

    Still got to wear the stupid mask when on company common areas, in my cube I can take it off. It is so, so, much better to be at work. Few are back, I’m like the first one; going out to restaurants and bars is great but I want to say from my own totally unscientific but on the ground observations people are still staying home a lot.

    The public is like a big oyster bed getting fed a constant rain of fish-food in the form of media blather…innuendo, factoids, half truths, and straight up lies. Oh well.

  20. Eric Hatfield says:

    Meanwhile here in Chelan and Douglas counties in Washington we remain under the same shelter in place order since 16 March. That is now longer than the disease epicenters of Wuhan, China and New York City. Yet I heard on the radio a few days ago we have exactly 1 person in the hospital with Covid-19. The hospital serves all of north central Washington.

    Before the shutdown I had a sit-down meal in a restaurant with a friend. It was his birthday. I was hoping to do the same on my birthday. Fat chance.

    BTW anyone want to visit the new nation of CHAZ in Seattle?

  21. rah says:

    “White House Adviser Kevin Hassett Discusses Growth Estimates and Red State/Blue State Divide…”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/12/white-house-adviser-kevin-hassett-discusses-growth-estimates-and-red-state-blue-state-divide/

    By “the media” we all know Tony is referring to the leftist media that is in line with the democrats. I noticed that nobody asked for any clarification of that. It was a given.

  22. Robert Austin says:

    Spiked is good. Too much isolation just drags out the inevitable exposure to the virus while the economy is sabotaged by the COVID alarmists. The “cure” is already far worse than the disease. If we had focused on the vulnerable rather than quarantining the healthy, we would have saved many of the elderly in nursing homes and not damaged the economy. I hope we learn from this and never again practice social isolation for the healthy. It is just madness.

  23. Phil. says:

    Arizona has been at the epicenter of press hysteria, because they were one of the first to allow their citizens to work and live a normal life. The press has been claiming hospitalizations in Arizona have spiked. But the Arizona data shows new hospitalizations are down,

    Latest data shows Arizona hospitalizations have increased and intensive care unit bed use has increased to 76% and apparently hospitals have been asked by the Director of Health Services to be careful with elective surgeries to ensure bed capacity.

    • Gator says:

      Wrongway Phail strikes again!

      Note how incurious Phail is, if the narrative supports the left. Note how he always sides with alarmists.

      As is always the case, there is a grain of truth that is hugely distorted by numerous obfuscations of important facts and context. The truth is that new hospitalizations of people coming in for serious coronavirus infections are actually extremely low. What they are actually counting are the extra people coming in for all of the delayed health care caused by the lockdown. But thanks to universal testing in hospitals, they are discovering more asymptomatic cases than ever before, which had nothing to do with the original purpose of the hospital stay. Thus, they are blaming the fallout of the lockdown on the easing of the lockdown!

      The health “experts” and the media propagating viral panic porn think people like us don’t understand arithmetic. They think they can manipulate headline stories warning of increased cases of COVID-19 in order to push more lockdowns, ignoring all the ways that more cases are being discovered, while the percentage of positive tests, new hospitalizations and deaths, and the lethality of the virus are all waning significantly.

      “Arizona’s COVID-19 spread is ‘alarming’ and action is needed, experts warn,” read the title of an Arizona Republic article on Wednesday. Yahoo News breathlessly warned about a “spike” in all the southwestern states.

      The total number of “positive” COVID-19 patients currently using beds in the hospital system is high. Now you might wonder how cumulative numbers could be so high if the new daily intake is so low? It’s quite obvious that the first chart is only counting those who actually come in with new serious cases of COVID-19, for example those who have trouble breathing because the virus attacked their lungs. Those cases are extremely low relative to April.

      The cumulative number chart, on the other hand, counts any “positive or suspected inpatient COVID-19 patients.” Now that the number of people coming into hospitals in general, for any reason, is much higher than during the peak of the epidemic and also testing has become standard, they are likely counting anyone who tests positive as a COVID-19 patient in that chart, even if they came in for chest pains or trauma. Which is why there is a note at the bottom of the chart observing that the numbers are very volatile. Obviously, if the same number of patients of all conditions had come in to hospitals six weeks ago and we had had the rapid testing capabilities, the number of positive cases would have been recorded as even higher than they are today.

      https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-the-new-panic-lie-increased-coronavirus-hospitalizations-and-cases-in-the-southwest

      • Phil. says:

        According to the Arizona Health Dept. ” 3,246 cases of COVID-19 reported in Arizona today. Please keep yourself and your family safe. Always wear a mask in public even if you do not feel sick. Maintain physical distancing.”

        According to the Arizona Republic:

        “Inpatient beds and ventilators in use for suspected and confirmed COVID-19 patients hit their highest-ever numbers Thursday, according to hospital data.

        The highest jump came in inpatient beds, with 1,832 beds occupied by suspected and confirmed COVID-19 patients Thursday, compared with 1,667 Wednesday.

        As of Thursday, 85% of current inpatient beds and 84% of ICU beds were in use for COVID-19 and other patients.

        More than 1,000 new cases have been reported on 13 of the past 15 days, including on the past 10 days.

        Forty-one deaths were reported Friday.”

        • Gator says:

          Yep, as testing increases, more people will fall into the “covid positive” column. As any intelligent person would imagine, many people with respiratory issues avoided the hospitals for fear of contracting the disease, until now.

          What part of “increased testing” do you not get Phail? What part of people returning to hospitals for non-covid related issues, after staying away for months, do you not understand Phail? It is explained in great detail above. How stupid are you?

          • Phil. says:

            Well Gator let’s look at the actual data rather than hand waving.
            Number of tests: May 16, 12,472; June 16, 15,558
            About a 25% increase.
            In June ~19% of the tests were positive, in May ~6%.
            #In patient COVID-19 patients:
            May 16, 796; June 1,582, so approximately doubled.
            In the same time frame adult intensive care bed usage increased from 454 to 1,385.

            What part of in-patients with COVID-19 doubling for a 25% increase of testing don’t you understand Gator?

          • Gator says:

            #In patient COVID-19 patients…

            Again you dolt, many of those, if not most, were people who were told to stay away from hospitals, and when those folks were allowed to finally return the hospitals to have unrelated issues dealt with, they were found to be COVID positive.

            In the same time frame adult intensive care bed usage increased from 454 to 1,385.

            Of course intensive beds increased you moron, sick people were staying away from hospitals, in fact they were told to stay away. My mother was one of them. And of course with increased testing you will find more infected. Are you really as stupid as you pretend? Show me.

          • Phil. says:

            Gator says:
            June 22, 2020 at 2:16 pm
            “In the same time frame adult intensive care bed usage increased from 454 to 1,385.”

            Of course intensive beds increased you moron, sick people were staying away from hospitals, in fact they were told to stay away. My mother was one of them.

            And the number of COVID-19 patients occupying those ICU beds doubled during that timeframe, the net rate being about 10/day. Sorry to hear about your mother, hope she’s well?

            And of course with increased testing you will find more infected.

            Especially when the percentage of positives is increasing faster than the rate of testing.
            Week of May 31 # tests 52,862, %+ve 12%
            Week of June 14 # tests 65,720, %+ve 19%
            Preliminary data for this week shows over 20%.

          • Gator says:

            And the number of COVID-19 patients occupying those ICU beds doubled during that time frame

            No, the number of patients in the ICU who tested positive for COVID doubled, not the number of people being placed in the ICU for COVID. For months the ICU’s were reserved for COVID patients, and everyone else went elsewhere. As I have repeatedly pointed out, thousands of people who stayed away from the hospitals for months are now returning with many maladies, and all are screened for COVID whether they have symptoms or not.

            The fact that you cannot grasp this simple concept speak volumes.

          • Phil. says:

            Gator says:
            June 24, 2020 at 3:45 pm
            As I have repeatedly pointed out, thousands of people who stayed away from the hospitals for months are now returning with many maladies, and all are screened for COVID whether they have symptoms or not.

            The fact that you cannot grasp this simple concept speak volumes.

            I can grasp it alright, it’s a reasonable hypothesis but you provide no credible evidence to support it. The Blaze article you linked to is nonsense.
            They link to the azdhs site for their data unfortunately they don’t understand it. The reference someone called Kyle Lamb who produced a smoothed graph showing a sharp drop over the previous week and says “Does this look like a “spike” to you?” What he fails to understand is that the “data for the previous 4-7 days may not be reported yet”. His hospitalization data stops on June 6th at ~20, in fact if you look at the data for June 6th now it was actually 64! Which was higher than the maximum shown in his data.
            He goes on to say: “As you can see, if you break down the new admissions by date of admission, as this chart does, the numbers are actually near zero over the past week. There was only one new admission on Wednesday, the last day of reporting.” Actually for that week the average was over 60 and for the day in question 66 not 1!
            So come back with some credible data if you want your hypothesis to be taken seriously.

          • Gator says:

            I’m still waiting for you to refute what I have posted. Increased infections are clearly caused at least in part by increased testing, and people returning to hospitals. Add in all the leftists sanctioned riots, and it is a big fat nothing burger. The death rate is dropping, no hospitals are overwhelmed, and ventilators are widely available. Bitch all you want about the Blaze article, but the facts are the facts Phail. It is time to reopen the economy, and leftists are trying their best to stop this because the last thing they want is good economic numbers going into the election.

            https://www.bing.com/search?q=democrats%20do%20not%20want%20economy%20to%20recover&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=&sc=0-0&sk=&cvid=D118650662C845CDB9451F0914F24C86

            Phail, you are an agent of leftist chaos. You only come here to sow doubt, and support the far left agenda. What you do is disgusting, and evil.

            As I have proven in the past, you have never criticized global warming believers, and you have never criticized the left. You are a shameless Marxist cheerleader and anti-human thug.

          • Gator says:

            We didn’t start testing for COVID-19 until March, and testing didn’t ramp up in earnest until a month or two later in most parts of the country. How many cases already existed when the panic set in during mid-March? According to a peer-reviewed study by Penn State, “the number of early COVID-19 cases in the U.S. may have been more than 80 times greater and doubled nearly twice as fast as originally believed.”

            Hmmm. And as for increased patients…

            For example, Rhode Island health director Nicole Alexander-Scott said already in May, “We are now identifying more people who are in the hospital with COVID-19 as opposed to just people who are in the hospital because of COVID-19 or for COVID-19-related illnesses. Someone could have a sprained ankle and if they are screened for COVID-19 and their test returns positive … they may be in the hospital with COVID-19. We want to make sure we are capturing that data as well.”

            Phail, go crawl back under your rock, and stay there. You are nothing more than an agenda driven shit disturber, just like those tearing down statues and burning businesses.

          • Phil. says:

            Gator says:
            June 26, 2020 at 5:10 pm
            I’m still waiting for you to refute what I have posted. Increased infections are clearly caused at least in part by increased testing, and people returning to hospitals.

            And as pointed out a major factor in the increased infections is the significantly increased positivity, 20% on the 21st, 9% on May 24th.

            The death rate is dropping, no hospitals are overwhelmed, and ventilators are widely available. Bitch all you want about the Blaze article, but the facts are the facts Phail.

            I was talking about Arizona and as we know they’re certainly near limits for ICU beds. As I pointed out the Blaze article is not about the facts.

          • Gator says:

            And as I have pointed out for many months, you are an leftist alarmist troll, and you support alarmism. You never criticize alarmists, you are in their employ.

            Fact: The majority of new cases are 18-35 year olds who are asymptomatic.

            Fact: Hospitals are not being overwhelmed.

            Fact: The death rate continues to fall even as cases increase.

            Fact: Increased testing will show increased infected.

            Fact: The virus is becoming less deadly.

            Fact: Phail is a cheerleader for leftist alarmism, which kills.

            Fact: Phail cannot ever produce a single comment showing that he does not support alarmism.

            Fact: Phail is a useful idiot for the left.

          • Phil. says:

            Gator says:
            June 30, 2020 at 1:23 pm
            And as I have pointed out for many months, you are an leftist alarmist troll, and you support alarmism. You never criticize alarmists, you are in their employ.

            As I pointed out before you don’t address the facts you just make political attacks and make false assertions. I certainly am not in the employ of ‘alarmists’, another of your fabrications.

            Fact: The majority of new cases are 18-35 year olds who are asymptomatic.

            In Arizona 1,092 of hospitalizations are for ages between 20 and 44, about a quarter of the total.

            Fact: Hospitals are not being overwhelmed.

            They are in Arizona, just announced that they’re trying to find 500 additional hospital staff because of the stress that they’re experiencing.

            Fact: The death rate continues to fall even as cases increase.

            When I first posted a couple of weeks ago the number of deaths that day was 40, today it’s 88.

            Fact: Increased testing will show increased infected.

            As will steady testing, as I pointed out the positivity rate has more than doubled over the last four weeks, it’s now over 20%.

            Fact: The virus is becoming less deadly.

            That would be normal, although there is no evidence to support it yet.

            Fact: Phail is a cheerleader for leftist alarmism, which kills.

            No, I’m a scientist, it is the failure of some administrators to follow the scientific advice which is killing people.

        • Gator says:

          As I pointed out before you don’t address the facts you just make political attacks and make false assertions. I certainly am not in the employ of ‘alarmists’, another of your fabrications.

          Phail, you are a liar. I have repeatedly shown you to be an alarmist, and an alarmist cheerleader. You never criticize alarmists, and you never troll their sites like you troll here.

          In Arizona 1,092 of hospitalizations are for ages between 20 and 44, about a quarter of the total.

          20-44 is basically includes the same demographic I gave, 18-35.

          They are in Arizona, just announced that they’re trying to find 500 additional hospital staff because of the stress that they’re experiencing.

          I’m sure that you meant to say they are rehiring staff they laid off a couple of months ago.

          https://www.azfamily.com/news/continuing_coverage/coronavirus_coverage/some-arizona-nurses-being-laid-off-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/article_1676e1f4-7310-11ea-bcfe-d71d1bec3aeb.html

          When I first posted a couple of weeks ago the number of deaths that day was 40, today it’s 88.

          When you first posted you were also a couple of weeks younger, so what?

          As will steady testing, as I pointed out the positivity rate has more than doubled over the last four weeks, it’s now over 20%.

          Again, so what? We still do not know that actual rate, a recent study said it could be 80 times higher.

          https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200622141143.htm

          That would be normal, although there is no evidence to support it yet.

          Do try and keep up scientist Phail…

          https://kutv.com/news/coronavirus/utah-doctor-says-antibody-study-shows-the-novel-coronavirus-is-getting-less-virulent

          No, I’m a scientist, it is the failure of some administrators to follow the scientific advice which is killing people.

          No, you are a leftist troll alarmist cheerleader. Go on, show us all the many times you have refuted alarmism and the many alarmist websites that you troll daily.

          I’m still waiting, you disgusting anti-human liar.

        • Phil. says:

          Gator says:
          July 2, 2020 at 3:14 pm

          “In Arizona 1,092 of hospitalizations are for ages between 20 and 44, about a quarter of the total.”

          20-44 is basically includes the same demographic I gave, 18-35.

          Glad you agree Gator, but hospitalizations are not asymptomatic!

          “They are in Arizona, just announced that they’re trying to find 500 additional hospital staff because of the stress that they’re experiencing.”

          I’m sure that you meant to say they are rehiring staff they laid off a couple of months ago.

          I don’t think that’s what the Vice President meant when he said the federal government is sending 500 health workers to Arizona, which officials say is seeing the highest rate of new cases in the nation.

          “We’re gonna make sure Arizona has whatever it takes to meet this moment to slow the spread, to flatten the curve, to save lives,” said the vice president. “I’ve instructed the acting secretary of Homeland Security to move out immediately on providing the additional doctors and nurses and technical personnel.”

          Fact: The virus is becoming less deadly.
          “That would be normal, although there is no evidence to support it yet.”

          Do try and keep up scientist Phail…

          The evidence is that the European and American strain is more virulent than the original Chinese version:
          https://www.biospace.com/article/mutated-covid-19-viral-strain-in-us-and-europe-much-more-contagious/

          • Gator says:

            Glad you agree Gator, but hospitalizations are not asymptomatic!

            Yes Phail, they are when they come in for a different reason.

            … researchers in Iceland reported that 50 percent of their novel coronavirus cases who tested positive had no symptoms.

            So again Phail, many of those who are in the hospital are asymptomatic, and they are there for other reasons. Do try and keep up…

            Dr. Scott Atlas, the former chief of neuroradiology at Stanford University Medical Center, explained Monday why the spike of coronavirus cases across the Sun Belt doesn’t tell the full story.

            According to Dr. Atlas, Americans should be cautious of the media’s reporting on the apparent COVID-19 spike because it “doesn’t really matter how many cases” there are — what is important is “who gets the cases.”

            That is because, as Dr. Atlas explained, the COVID-19 mortality rate is just .04% for people under age 70 — which is equal to or lower than the seasonal flu — and the case spike is being driven by younger people contracting the virus on a larger scale.

            “The overwhelming majority are younger, healthier people,” Dr. Atlas said.

            “It only matters if we cannot protect the high-risk people, which we are protecting … how do I know? Because the death rates are not going up.”

            “Right now, the cases have been going up for three weeks. We have no increase — in fact, we have a decrease in death rates,” Dr. Atlas explained. “You know, it doesn’t matter if you get the illness if you’re going to fully recover and be fine from it. That is what people must understand. For younger, healthier people, there’s not a high risk from this disease at all.”

            In fact, according to Dr. Atlas, America may be on the path to so-called “herd immunity,” which is developed when a large number of healthy people in a population contract the virus and eventually provide protection for more vulnerable and high-risk people.

            Phail, your ignorance comes from only listening to one side, the alarmists whom you adore.

          • Phil. says:

            Gator says:
            July 9, 2020 at 2:52 pm

            “Dr. Scott Atlas, the former chief of neuroradiology at Stanford University Medical Center, explained Monday why the spike of coronavirus cases across the Sun Belt doesn’t tell the full story.

            According to Dr. Atlas, Americans should be cautious of the media’s reporting on the apparent COVID-19 spike because it “doesn’t really matter how many cases” there are — what is important is “who gets the cases.”

            That is because, as Dr. Atlas explained, the COVID-19 mortality rate is just .04% for people under age 70 — which is equal to or lower than the seasonal flu — and the case spike is being driven by younger people contracting the virus on a larger scale.”

            Not according to the data for Arizona, the mortality rate for those under 65 is ~2.7%

          • Gator says:

            Yes Phail, thankyou for proving me right once again.

            As I have repeatedly pointed out, you are an alarmist troll that ignores any data that interferes with your alarmism. You are here only to promote alarmism, and fear. Instead of looking at the big picture, you cherry pick the worst number you can find published regardless of the source and facts, and then you pretend it is reflective of the pandemic. If you have a problem with a .04% fatality rate (and clearly you do, as you cheerlead any and all alarmist data), please take that up with Dr Atlas.

            As for real numbers, we can safely say that the COVID deaths have been inflated. But here is what Arizona is reporting…

            Rate of fatalities, per 100,000 population: 31.12

            https://www.azdhs.gov/preparedness/epidemiology-disease-control/infectious-disease-epidemiology/covid-19/dashboards/

            But please keep reinforcing what an alarmist troll you truly are. LOL

  24. rah says:

    Doesn’t matter to me. I refuse to live in fear! Isolate the susceptible and let the rest of us go on with our lives and ignore the hand wringers, manipulators, and those that parrot their BS like Phil!

    Yesterday had a cookout at my Dad’s. First family gettogether since Christmas. Dad is 88, has COPD, diabetes, and is wheelchair bound. Thankfully he has the means to have 24/7 care at home and our dedicated caregivers have been with him for several years.

    But one has to find a balance. When I was talking to him on the phone a month ago and asked him how he was doing he said “I’m still alive but I don’t know why!” I knew we had to do something. His moral was lower than I had seen it. So we had a cookout for Fathers day at his house and he got to see most of the family including all of his grandchildren and great grandchildren.

    Since I am a truckdriver and in contact with all kinds of people I kept my social distance from Dad but the others could hug him.

    On the 4th I’m having him over to my place for a cookout and fireworks.

    • Disillusioned says:

      Enjoyed your post. I am glad your father is still with you. Lost mine in this life 12 years ago; would have been 86 this year.

  25. America 2050 Depopulation Date Changed To 2025
    August 31, 2016 Angie

    http://victuruslibertas.com/2016/08/america-2050-depopulation-date-changed-to-2025/

    Thanks to Ted Turner for making it clear what the globalists truly desire. Ninety percent depopulation is the goal.

    The Georgia Guidestones declare that humanity will be reduced by 90%. To do that, a devastating world war will be needed and the world’s march toward depopulation will begin right here in the United States. The means for this devastating destruction will be the result of losing World War III. Following America’s devastating defeat, what is left of American society will be garrisoned and divided into 11 mega cities in a style befitting of the Hunger Games movie trilogy. Documents have emerged which clearly supports these assertions.

    For three plus years, The Common Sense Show has stated they believe that World War III will begin in Syria.

    Most court cases are decided by circumstantial evidence, alone. Both circumstantial and direct evidence demonstrate that the United States is destined to lose World War III along with 70% of its people. There are two smoking guns which conclusively support this assertion.

    The emergence of the mega-cities concept which will replace our present societal structure. In this post-war America, 70% of the people are unaccounted for.
    The release of the CIA controlled Deagel documents which demonstrates that both the US and the UK lose most of their military before 2025. As is the case for the mega-cities concept, the Deagel documents demonstrate that the United States will have lost 70% of its people by the year 2025.
    This is being reported on by many credible alternate media sources, including Max Kaiser and Silver Doctors.

    Mega Cities
    On August 27, 2014, The Common Sense Show exposed the megacities concept in revealing something called the America 2050 plan.

    The enslavement of America had taken center stage and had indeed been called “America 2050“. The plan for America 2050 was to herd Americans into 11 megacities consisting of six million people each, totaling 66 million people. Under this plan, there are no provisions for any other population developments, according to The Common Sense Show…. That plan has been updated… to happen by 2025!

    316,000,000 million Americans will change to 66,000,000 megacity dwellers which equals 250,000,000 missing Americans!

    The CIA Front Group- Deagel, Brings Clarity to the Megacities Concept
    Just who or what is Deagel? Deagel.com is a military equipment and civil aviation guide website. The power and influence of the corporation that you never heard of, is staggering. This is the modern day Zapata Oil, which was a CIA front corporation run by George H. W. Bush which, in turn, facilitated much of the Air America “drugs for guns” program in Latin America in the 1980’s.

    Sources say that Deagel is the same kind of organization as Zapata Oil. Deagel ran guns through the late Ambassador, Chris Stevens, and subsequently delivered them to al-Qaeda in Libya and in Syria at the time of Stevens’ death. Deagel is not just a gun running/drug running/child sex trafficking organization, they are also intimately connected with the business as “Open source intelligence links”. This means that Deagel and their partner (affiliations listed below) serve as marketing companies for the CIA and sell intelligence information to the highest bidder. Stratfor and Deagel provide the CIA with a minimum of two degrees of separation from nefarious operations which could taint the U.S. government and in particular, the CIA. The focus of the remainder of this article is the destruction and depopulation of the United States.

    Deagel is a group that gets their hands dirty and they play both sides of the fence. Please note the publicly available list of Deagel partners, listed below. They do business with the Russian Defense Procurement Agency, but they are largely an American contractor with ties into the U.S. Navy, the NSA and the CIA, through Stratfor. If anyone wanted to make the case that I have, the “Bastard Banksters from Basel” control both sides of the coming WW III for fun and profit, the data trail of Deagel exemplifies this point. From the following information, we get a strong indication of how the U.S. is going to be depopulated. To further examine this possibility, take a look at a partial list of Deagel partners. The following list clearly shows that Deagel is “locked in” when it comes to the power centers on this planet.

    Below is a partial list of Deagel Partners:

    National Security Agency (NSA)

    North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO – OTAN)

    Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)

    OSCE

    Stratfor

    The World Bank

    United Nations (UN)

    In the beginning of 2014, Deagel published a projected demographic shift of every nation on the planet. The projections are noteworthy. As one of the most prolific arms dealers and sellers of intelligence information on the planet, Deagel would be in a unique position from which to make projections with regard to coming world events as well as being able to anticipate dramatic shifts in global power. Not surprisingly, Deagel has made such a projection and the news is not good for the United States. Below is a list of projected changes for the United States during the time frame covering 2014-2025.

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    United States of America Projected Changes from 2015-2025

    Year: 2015

    Population: 321 million (Ranked 3rd worldwide)

    Gross Domestic Product: $18 trillion

    GDP per capita: $55,855

    Budget: $6.0 trillion

    Military Budget: $781 billion (Ranked #1 worldwide)

    Forecast 2025
    Population: 61 million (Rank lowered to 19th worldwide)

    Gross Domestic Product: $949 billion

    GDP per capita: $15,517

    Military Budget: $8.2 billion (Worldwide rank lowered to 22)

    See page from Deagel for US predictions below:

    World figures US

    The projected and dramatic downward shift in America’s population are nearly identical when one compares the America 2050 documents and the Deagel projections.

    There is another striking projection which should alarm every American. In 2013, the U.S. military budget was $726 billion dollars. However, the projected 2025 projected budget is only $8 billion dollars. The mere $8 billion dollar projected 2025 military budget speaks to a domestic martial law type of occupation force, some would say. With this kind of budget, the U.S. would not even be able to engage in regional conflicts.

    In the Deagel document, Russia, China, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran and India maintain their respective populations or increase their populations by the year 2025. The United States and Britain undergo severe population reductions.

    Below is Russia’s prediction via Deagel:

    World figures Russia

    Common sense dictates that in a global conflict, with its advanced weaponry, that the U.S. would be able to devastate the populations of the aforementioned countries. However, the Deagel projections do not indicate this. Therefore, the only thing that makes any sense would be that the U.S. will fall victim to being sold out by treasonous leadership, thus precipitating its demise. Does this statement bring anyone to mind?

    The Method of America’s Demise
    Martial law is usually preceded by a false flag. There is no shortage of false flag possibilities and choosing the manner, the time and the place is a fool’s errand. However, there are a definitive 17 elements of martial law that we can analyze in order to gauge the progress America is making with regard to to being under total martial law. The 17 elements of martial law are:

    1-Mass roundup of political dissidents

    2-Dusk to dawn curfews

    3-Rationing of essential resources

    4-The seizing of personal assets such as food and water

    5-Control over all food and water

    6-The prohibition of weapons of any kind including guns, knives or chemicals which can be turned into explosives

    7-The confiscation of property, homes and businesses

    8-Arrests without due process

    9-Massive “papers please” checkpoints with intrusive searches

    10-Forced relocations

    11-Forced conscription into various labor camps and even into the military

    12-Outlawing of free speech

    13-The installation of massive surveillance programs and the establishment of snitch programs

    14-The total control or elimination of religion

    15-Control of the media

    16-Executions without due process of law

    17-Total suspension of the Constitution

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    Conclusion
    Many would conclude that American is being set up to be destroyed in WW III as a result with the coming war with the BRIC nations along with some very timely and treasonous help from the inside. Further, we have major think tank organizations as well as a prominent CIA front organization publishing data and projections which reinforces all the Agenda 21 claims that have been made for 20 years. Namely, the United States is going to experience a series of major depopulation events as the landscape of this country will likely be change forever, and we may very well be moved into the Agenda 21 projected cities of the future.

    There is now clear evidence that the America 2050 plan is already taking place.

    Sources:

    http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx

    http://www.america2050.org/megaregions.html

    https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=deagel.com

    http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2014/08/27/the-nightmarish-megacities-of-the-near-future/
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