Fifteen Days To Flatten The Curve

COVID-2019 needed fifteen days to flatten the curve. As we approach the end of COVID-2020 and COVID-2021, experts say COVID-2022 will require a booster shot every twelve days.

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8 Responses to Fifteen Days To Flatten The Curve

  1. Petit_Barde says:

    “Cases” are meaningless and hospitalizations are partly made up (at least in the USA) :
    https://youtu.be/kOshzAoCtTE?t=268

    • Nicholas Liam McGinley says:

      I am not sure if “made up” is an accurate way to phrase what seems to be happening.
      I think it is more like that too much is being read into reported numbers.
      People have been assuming that anyone a hospital reports as a patient with covid can be taken to be a severe covid case, when the truth is many people wind up in the hospital for a lot of reasons, and lots of them test positive. Many turn out to be mild or asymptomatic cases in people who are there for other reasons. And many are mild cases that were admitted for a short time for observation, or for remdesivir or antibody treatment, or out of an abundance of caution because the person had risk factors or complained of shortness of breath, and all sort of things along those lines.
      Some attempts to quantify those that are not severe cases found that as many as half of people may not be severe covid cases, even though they are in a hospital and tested positive.
      That is not exactly making stuff up, so much as lumping things together.
      Many statistics are unreliable in such circumstances for some other reasons: Some hospitals may give low priority to compiling and reporting highly detailed summaries of patients and why they are hospitalized. Often why someone is there evolves over the course of their stay as well.
      So it is, to me, understandable why they may just be reporting how many patients are in beds, and how many have or had previously tested positive.
      In some cases, positive blood tests may have been mixed up with tests for current infection, further clouding an already murky picture. Doing this could wind up counting the same infection multiple times.

  2. Torgo says:

    At least 12 days? Gee, I wonder if my elderly mother thinks that the Systolic BP spike and night in the hospital after her 3rd jab was a decent price to pay for a whole 12 more days of alleged protection.

    • Nicholas Liam McGinley says:

      12 days is how long they waited after the booster to gather data on efficacy.
      The vaccines do not protect against disease. What they do is induce the immune system to increase antibodies and antigen specific cells, and possibly cells of the innate immune system as well.
      It takes some time for such an effect to occur and be fully effective. Cells have to divide many times in a process called clonal expansion. Antibodies have to be churned out.
      And none of that happens until the inoculation has been seen by the immune system, and signaling molecules called cytokines have initiated the various processes that ultimately lead to the increases in immunity that will occur.
      The actual processes that occur are insanely complex, and it is certain that far more is going on that what has been learned to date.
      Check this out:
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459471/

  3. Pamela Matlack-Klein says:

    Wait, what? The booster only confers TWELVE DAYS of protection? What is the point then?

  4. Nicholas Liam McGinley says:

    I think that must be a typo.
    That was my first thought, because no way did any study report any thing so ridiculous.
    After taking a quick look at recently released reports from Pfizer, it seems that what happened is an complete idiot has once again pretended to be a journalist.
    The 12 days is the amount of time it takes for a booster to increase antibody and memory cell levels in a person.
    What the report says is, the booster dose decreases infection and severe disease chances AFTER at least 12 days. They are not even going to measure any effect in less time post dosing than that interval.
    See here:
    “At least 12 days after the booster dose, the rate of confirmed infection was lower in the booster group than in the nonbooster group by a factor of 11.3; the rate of severe illness was lower by a factor of 19.5. In a secondary analysis, the rate of confirmed infection at least 12 days after vaccination was lower than the rate after 4 to 6 days by a factor of 5.4.”
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/three-reports-support-arguments-for-booster-doses-of-pfizer-s-covid-19-vaccine/ar-AAOuci5

    They really ought to get people with a functional mind to write headlines.
    How does someone like this end up as a reporter of medical news?
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