The Best Electric Cars

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  1. arn says:

    BMW has been building such “cars” since 1991.

    Of course they haven’t been electric at that time.
    And that’s probably the reason why they did not call the C1 a car
    but an enclosed scooter.

    Considering that renewables can at best replace 10% of the current energy production the people will need to compensate with 90% less car.

    • arn says:

      Just a funny comment from new Messiah Zelensky
      about the most real thing since Global Warming = North Korean soldiers fighting for Russia and are sent in human waves to the slaughtered for the sake of evil Russkies(according to Kirby).

      “We have no photos (not even fake ones from Russian asians, that’s how low Russian casualties actually are)
      because the Russians burn their faces “.

      Those stupid incompetent Russkies.
      Only managed to kill 31000 Ukrainian soldiers(acc. Zelensky )
      in 2.5 years,
      but they can somehow burn the faces of all thousands of Korean soldiers in an active warzone the second they die.

      I really need to learn more about that tech –
      or the CiA needs better script writers.

  2. Gamecock says:

    All suffer from the same problem: they are electric.

  3. Bill says:

    The current average cost for an American to own a car is about $1,000 per month, including car loans, gas, maintenance and insurance. That won’t substantially change even if the climate change scam is dispensed with.

    IF autonomous cars become a reality – and I really mean IF – then most people living in cities will abandon their cars and make use of the silliest little self-driving electric cars and busses for getting around. Why? Because it will cost pennies per mile to get to the store, work, parks, etc. Cars won’t need to be huge, heavy behemoths used by just one person when they will travel in packs that all talk to each other. Science fiction? It’s just around the corner.

    • Tel says:

      Personally I regard self driving cars as much more dangerous than regular human drivers. The AI vision is poor … it can’t even come close to recognizing unusual road conditions and they get easily confused by long shadows in the morning and evening, or by roadworks, or by places where the lane markings have been changed, etc.

      Using LIDAR or RADAR and multiple sensors makes up for some of the vision problems but those are short range so they don’t help that much.

      Maybe the situation might improve but as far as I’m concerned they are welcome to test those dangerous machines in California.

      I also noticed that when it comes to self driving cars, they are NOT being made lightweight … they are using exactly the same “heavy behemoth” mentality that the other vehicle manufacturers are pumping out.

      https://www.the-sun.com/motors/6481674/self-driving-waymo-los-angeles/

      That thing is not going to run any more efficiently than a private vehicle … it saves nothing on fuel. In which case, the only advantage is you don’t need to pay the taxi driver … but wait, in a private vehicle you didn’t need to pay the driver either.

      Let’s list the items you give as typical costs:
      * Car loan
      * Fuel
      * Maintenance
      * Insurance

      OK, there’s no savings in fuel if the self driving cars are identical in weight and power to the private vehicle.

      There will be a saving on the car loan, because with the self-driving vehicle you can make more use of fewer vehicles, however also offset that against the massive development expense getting the AI working in the first place … ultimately this needs to be paid back by the customers. Also, most private vehicles are driven until they reach their design limit and too many parts break down, making it uneconomical to repair. This lifespan is almost entirely a factor of distance travelled by the vehicle. A private vehicle that hits a quarter of a million miles is equivalent to a self-driving vehicle that hits the same distance. Therefore no gain in terms of total vehicle miles travelled, only that with self-driving taxis they hit the maximum distance sooner, and are thus sent to the scrap yard in a shorter period of time.

      Maintenance is much the same … oil changes are dependant on distance travelled, not on time spent parked in the garage. Thus, the self-driving taxis will have higher maintenance costs per year but about the same total maintenance cost for the lifespan of a given vehicle. It’s largely a wash.

      Insurance … I’m not sure how that will pan out. They certainly charge higher insurance if you drive it more … and higher for commercial vehicles. That might be closer to a wash than you think, but there could be some bulk discounts because a big corporation has more leverage getting better rates from the insurance companies.

      All things considered, none of those factors point to a compelling story with regards to cost savings.

      Indeed, after this long ramble I’ve concluded that the ONLY scope for cost savings is smaller, lighter vehicles, with lower power … and that’s the one thing that companies such as WayMo are NOT doing. If that ever did become the trend, then it would equally apply to private vehicles just as much, and once again, the benefits of self-driving start to look questionable.

  4. Tel says:

    Sir Clive Sinclair figured out, back in the 1980’s, that the only potentially successful electric car would need to be small, inexpensive and used for short trips in urban environments. BTW, if you check the sort of vehicle trip that is most common … it would be short trips in an urban environment … visit the shops, take the kids to school, commute to the office, etc.

    https://www.grantsinclair.com/vehiclehistory

    The trouble is, such small car/bike/scooter combos do not handle collisions with much larger vehicles. Many jurisdictions simply outlawed such things … around Australia they outlawed any power assist on a scooter but many people ignored the rules (despite threats of heavy fines) so the authorities relented and allowed trials of rental scooters but for some reason they seem to hate privately owned equipment.

    Thus, many parts of society have nothing to do with technology and are instead determined by political whim, and aversion to doing anything differently.

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