13 Years Later, Progressive Geniuses Figure Out That They Don’t Want An Islamic State After All

NEWPORT, Wales — The United States and key allies agreed Friday to take on the marauding Islamic State militant group by squeezing its financial resources and going after it with military might.

President Barack Obama outlined a coordinated military strategy that echoes the war on terror first developed by his predecessor, George W. Bush, more than a decade ago.

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18 Responses to 13 Years Later, Progressive Geniuses Figure Out That They Don’t Want An Islamic State After All

  1. dmmcmah says:

    This is all posturing. Progressives will not do what’s necessary. A favorite example of mine is the 1972 invasion of South Vietnam. Nixon pulled out all the stops with air power, while South Vietnam fought on the ground. We could get rid of ISIS by using air power and letting the Kurds and Iraqis cleaning up on the ground. But it won’t happen. Obama will make a few pronouncements like this and do a few drone strikes. ISIS is way to entrenched for that, they are way past Al Qaeda.

    • Alan Poirier says:

      Sad to say you are probably right. The only thing that might save the day is the unofficial alliance of Egypt, Israel, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Common enemies make for strange bedfellows.

      • phodges says:

        What planet are you from? Israel, Jordan, and Saudi have an alliance…to support ISIS.

        • Luke of the D says:

          You realize, Mr Phodges, that what you say makes absolutely no sense. None at all. The “Islamic State” is the absolute enemy of Israel (God’s Country… so any islamic/satanic cult obvious hates them) and Egypt (who recently imprisoned all of their Muslim Brotherhood chums) and Jordan (who’s very existence is threatoned by the islamic/satanic cult).

    • bobmaginnis says:

      Progressives are not like the PNAC Neocons who wanted regime change in the late 90’s and spent $6 trillion and thousands of American lives creating chaos in the Mideast. Blame Cheney, etc.
      “…PNAC’s original 25 signatories were an eclectic mix of academics and neo-conservative politicians, several of whom have subsequently found positions in the presidential administration of George Walker Bush. PNAC is noteworthy for its focus on Iraq, a preoccupation that began before Bush became president and predates the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.”

      • Ed Martin says:

        Yeah, I don’t see how any comparison can be made with regards to this administration and the PNAC/ Hoover Institution administration of GWB. This ISIS group was the old al-Qaeda in Iraq that had been created as a response to GWB’s Iraq invasion.

        The Sunni Arab tribes actually threw them out because of their excessive brutality. The reason the Sunni tribes did not resist ISIS’s reentry was that the Keystone Cop-friendly Shi’ite government of Nouri al Maliki had been harshly oppressing the Sunnis. If this new Shi’ite dominated government will just treat them better the Sunnis will gladly take them out again.

        Keystone (World) Cops being — John McCain and Lindsey Graham — and other war(plotting)hawks like George Shultz & company at the Hoover Institution demanding that the United States escalate the violence and also bomb ISIS in Syria.

        I need to get more up to speed on which neoconservatives are still in place in sensitive intelligence positions and why Obama didn’t replace them all.

  2. Chewer says:

    As long as the liberal does not need to personally go to the fight, all is fine!

  3. Ben Vorlich says:

    Do these people never study anything? They understand nothing about science, engineering, banking or history. Islam or the sword has a long history.

    • Gail Combs says:

      This is what they study:

      The Philosophy Of Karl Marx
      The philosophical bases of Marx’s thought were laid early and remained unchanged throughout his life. As a student, Marx accepted the philosophy of Hegel as the only sound and adequate explanation of the universe. …

      Thus, Hegel accepted as real only that which existed in the mind. Objective phenomena and events were of no consequence; only the conceptions of them possessed by human minds were real. Ideas, not objects, were the stuff of which the universe was made. The universe and all events therein existed and took place only in the mind, and any change was a change in ideas. Therefore, to account for these changes in ideas was to account for change in the universe….

      Translation: If I wish real hard and click my heels three times I will make it TRUE!

  4. Robertv says:

    Destroy his own creation? Follow the money. It is what we do not see behind the door what we should be worried about. ISIS is just there to attract attention.

    And the same applies to the climate issue.

  5. Gail Combs says:

    If the US government was really worried about Islamic Terrorists the government would have built the wall per the last immigration reform law and strengthened border patrols. Instead the funding was cut for the wall, Border patrols were pulled and sent to Canada, Bordering state National Guard Units called up and sent over seas. link

    And the latest, Obama has with the stroke of a pen created a ‘national monument’ in an area of New Mexico [that] has known problems with human and drug trafficking and this designation will severely limit and disrupt border patrol agents’ operations in this area.

    The only terrorists the US government is worried about is Conservatives, patriots and members of the Tea Party!

  6. there is no substitute for victory says:

    On or about 1895 a young English Calvary Lt. arrived on the frontier between Afghanistan and today’s Pakistan. This young officers name was Winston Churchill. Churchill wrote a very good description of the people of this area. You can read Churchill’s words at the Gutenberg Project Web Sight. http://www.gutenberg.org/files/9404/9404-h/9404-h.htm#link2HCH0001

    I have also included a small sample of Sir Winston Churchill’s words here for your consideration. But I urge all to read at least Churchill’s first two books. His first book is:
    THE STORY OF THE MALAKAND FIELD FORCE Churchill’s second book is THE RIVER WAR. Both of these works can be found at the Project Gutenberg web sight and both deal exclusively with the Mohammedan Culture of warfare in different parts of the world.

    “In such a state of society, all property is held directly by main force. Every man is a soldier. Either he is the retainer of some khan—the man-at-arms of some feudal baron as it were—or he is a unit in the armed force of his village—the burgher of mediaeval history. In such surroundings we may without difficulty trace the rise and fall of an ambitious Pathan. At first he toils with zeal and thrift as an agriculturist on that plot of ground which his family have held since they expelled some former owner. He accumulates in secret a sum of money. With this he buys a rifle from some daring thief, who has risked his life to snatch it from a frontier guard-house. He becomes a man to be feared. Then he builds a tower to his house and overawes those around him in the village. Gradually they submit to his authority….”

    “The inhabitants of these wild but wealthy valleys are of many tribes, but of similar character and condition. The abundant crops which a warm sun and copious rains raise from a fertile soil, support a numerous population in a state of warlike leisure. Except at the times of sowing and of harvest, a continual state of feud and strife prevails throughout the land. Tribe wars with tribe. The people of one valley fight with those of the next. To the quarrels of communities are added the combats of individuals. Khan assails khan, each supported by his retainers. Every tribesman has a blood feud with his neighbor. Every man’s hand is against the other, and all against the stranger.

    Nor are these struggles conducted with the weapons which usually belong to the races of such development. To the ferocity of the Zulu are added the craft of the Redskin and the marksmanship of the Boer. The world is presented with that grim spectacle, “the strength of civilisation without its mercy.” At a thousand yards the traveller falls wounded by the well-aimed bullet of a breech-loading rifle. His assailant, approaching, hacks him to death with the ferocity of a South-Sea Islander. The weapons of the nineteenth century are in the hands of the savages of the Stone Age.

    Every influence, every motive, that provokes the spirit of murder among men, impels these mountaineers to deeds of treachery and violence. The strong aboriginal propensity to kill, inherit in all human beings, has in these valleys been preserved in unexampled strength and vigour. That religion, which above all others was founded and propagated by the sword—the tenets and principles of which are instinct with incentives to slaughter and which in three continents has produced fighting breeds of men—stimulates a wild and merciless fanaticism. The love of plunder, always a characteristic of hill tribes, is fostered by the spectacle of opulence and luxury which, to their eyes, the cities and plains of the south display. A code of honour not less punctilious than that of old Spain, is supported by vendettas as implacable as those of Corsica.

    In such a state of society, all property is held directly by main force. Every man is a soldier. Either he is the retainer of some khan—the man-at-arms of some feudal baron as it were—or he is a unit in the armed force of his village—the burgher of mediaeval history. In such surroundings we may without difficulty trace the rise and fall of an ambitious Pathan. At first he toils with zeal and thrift as an agriculturist on that plot of ground which his family have held since they expelled some former owner. He accumulates in secret a sum of money. With this he buys a rifle from some daring thief, who has risked his life to snatch it from a frontier guard-house. He becomes a man to be feared. Then he builds a tower to his house and overawes those around him in the village. Gradually they submit to his authority….”

    • Gail Combs says:

      Sounds right. Tribal nomads with modern weapons and a grim religion based on hating those who are different.

      • au1corsair says:

        Gail, how does your description of Afghani natives differ from the description of American “liberals?” I used “liberals” because few politicians will publically admit being liberal and the mainstream news media denies being liberal…

        Lost to history is when the term “liberal” became a term used to successfully smear “nomads with modern weapons and a grim religion based on hating those who are different.”

  7. stpaulchuck says:

    typical liberal pretzel logic – if someone else does it, it’s “wrong”; if they do it, it’s “right”

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