No Change In Average Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover For 25 Years

Over the past 25 years, there has been no net change in Northern Hemisphere snow cover. The amount of snow in autumn and winter has increased, while spring and summer snow cover has decreased. Note that there has been a large increase in peak snow cover, but no change in the minimum.

Climate experts normally only discuss the months which show decreasing snow cover, because they aren’t actual scientists.

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16 Responses to No Change In Average Northern Hemisphere Snow Cover For 25 Years

  1. philjourdan says:

    I have read several times now how things are “moving up”. Tornadoes, snow cover, temperatures, etc. I would love for a real scientist to look into that phenomenon.

    • I think that is a reflection of their personal philosophy, encapsulated in this, which probably echoes in their head more than we’d imagine:

      Well, we’re movin’ on up! (Well we’re movin’ on up)
      To the top (Well we’re movin’ on up)
      To a deluxe apartment in the sky! <— obligatory eschatological metaphor, associating rising metrics with death and destruction
      Well, we’re movin’ on up
      To the top (yeah we’re movin’ on up)
      We finally got a piece of the [AGW] pie

      The fish don’t fry in the kitchen
      The beans don’t burn on the grill <—— we have been in danger of overheating, but now we're fixing that
      Took a whole lotta tryin’
      Just to get up that hill Our Nazi enemies don’t give up easily

      Now we’re up in the big leagues
      Takin’ our turn at bat <—- There is a multicentury sea change in the works that will remove them from power and install us
      As long as we live, <—- survival at all costs; social Darwinism
      It’s you and me baby <——– we are respecters of persons instead of laws
      And there ain’t nothin’ wrong with that <—– ends justify the means

      Because we’re movin’ on up ….

      RTF

      • By the way, in case anyone has failed to notice, the rhythm of these kinds of songs is just like a metronome, and ideal for hypnosis and the subliminal implantation of ideas.

        Click … click … click …

        RTF

      • philjourdan says:

        Standing O 😆

        Very good adaptation.So who is Mr. J and who is Weezy?

        • Thanks; I would have to say George represents the more technically minded among them, and Weezy the more socially minded for lack of a better term. I would also note that the intention with the song was more to appeal to White allies, since by that time the Black community was already quite well indoctrinated with this kind of mythology. I speak from personal experience, as I went through that particular “treatment”, when I was 8-9 years old, and it took nearly 20 years for me to be fully detoxed from its effects. People may laugh, but that just tells me they haven’t been detoxed yet. We are talking some of most powerful mind-altering methods in existence. And they’ve been deployed on a mass scale for 40 years or more. Many have been born, lived their lives, and already died, completely within the lifespan of this massive medical experiment. RTF

  2. stpaulchuck says:

    this would merely imply a shift of the time window, a documented phenomena related to our eccentric orbit and axial wobble. I give it a big yawn but the Cherry Pickers of America seem to love this stuff as it gives them another chance to scare the panty wetters with dire pronouncements of imminent doom!

  3. Gail Combs says:

    The question would be has the number of days with snow cover changed?

    If there is a shift in ‘seasons’ due to the axial wobble, looking at data grouped in months is not going to tell us what the actual net effect is. However since the eccentricity cycle is about 100,000 years, and Axial tilt has a a periodicity of 41,000 years and wiki lists a change of ~20 minutes per year for the change in season compared to the stars or 8.5 hours in 25 years, I can not see the Milankovitch Cycles causing the change. They are just too slow.

    I have read somewhere that some glaciers are growing while others shrink but that is due to a shift in precipitation patterns. So is the change due to a change in fall/spring precipitation patterns?

  4. I would say snow cover is INCREASING along with more frigid temps. It does depend on which region of the world is discussed. Almost every year in the past 10 years, some area of the world has set a ‘record’ of wintry weather – cold, ice, snow cover etc. Since the poles are expanding – I would assume that in general the cover of snow is as well overall.

    • Gail Combs says:

      I think so too and that is why I think looking at the days vs months may be important. Months are just too course a measurement.

      I wish I was not ‘Computer Challenged’ with a clunky old computer that can’t even play videos without crashing. I would really like to dig into the data and see what it is actually saying. The Climastrologists certainly are not going to do the study and tell us.

  5. Psalmon says:

    Steven, you can graph and present this better than I, so if you plot the 10 year average NYC annual snowfall from 1860s to 2013, you will see that it has recently returned to years before 1920 (as the LIA was ending/abating) That’s the real hockey stick. Please be my guest:

    http://www.erh.noaa.gov/okx/climate/records/monthseasonsnowfall.html

  6. Gail Combs says:

    ” Note that there has been a large increase in peak snow cover, but no change in the minimum.”
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    HMMmm, If I recall from either my early readings or my ancient GEO courses, the thought was that glaciation was not so much caused by a decrease in temperatures in the winters as by an increase in snow cover (If it is too cold it doesn’t snow) and a lack of hot summers to melt the increased snow cover.

    We saw a bit of that in Alaska in 2012:
    Endless Winter for Alaska’s Mountains This Year

    …. the city is still dealing with leftover snow from last winter in its bordering mountain ranges. The all-time record snowfall of 133.6 inches last winter – just over 11 feet – could give Anchorage an endless winter.

    It’s a unique milestone…. The combination of heavy snowfall and a cool spring caused the lingering snow, said United States Department of Agriculture Snow Survey Supervisor Rick McClure. He said that it’s unusual to see snow still remaining in some of the mountains that surround Anchorage….

    Neve – The first stage in glacier formation is seen in Scotland, over 300 patches of snow remaining.
    Scotland is something of a canary in the coal mine since it is on the edge of where glaciers may or may not form.
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/08/24/surpise-glaciers-appearing-in-scotland/

    https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/highlands/325414/hundreds-snow-patches-highland-mountains/

    (wwwDOT)sott.net/article/284349-Climber-finds-spectacular-120-metre-glacial-tunnel-in-Scotland-in-summer

    (wwwDOT)bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-28885119

    (wwwDOT)scotlandnow.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/pensioner-discovers-120-metre-long-glacier-4091269

    (wwwDOT)scotlandnow.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/pensioner-discovers-120-metre-long-glacier-4091269

    Lingering snow record in Húsavíkurfjall, Iceland
    Google translation:

    After the exceptionally warm summer in Húsavík might think that snow was long gone, but it’s not. She did not disappear until September 11 and has not remained so long in Dagmálalág since formal records began.

    Tthe Swiss/French/Italian Alps have seen heavy and sometimes record snowfall last spring and this ‘fall’
    July 2014
    http://notrickszone.com/2014/07/11/in-switzerland-thing-of-the-past-becomes-a-thing-of-july-more-weather-that-isnt-supposed-to-happen/

    April 27 2014 Heavy Snowfall in the Alps on the last day of the 2013-14 ski season
    (wwwDOT)j2ski.com/ski-chat-forum/posts/list/15263.page

    February 6, 2014, Record snow in the Alps snow exceeds eight feet in many places
    (wwwDOT)youreporternews.it/2014/neve-record-cumuli-impressionanti-e-da-lunedi-altre-precipitazioni/
    Google Translate

    Record snow on the Alps, impressive mounds and other precipitation from Monday

    Walls of snow in the Alps engulfed whole villages. Heaps high impede open doors and windows, close roads and block garage. The images are impressive in Chiavenna. But it’s better in Veneto and Trentino Alto Adige, where the avalanche danger is marked

    (wwwDOT)youreporter.it/video_Imponenti_muri_di_neve_a_Fraciscio_in_Valchiavenna
    Google Translate

    The snow can easily exceed eight feet in many places, with even higher peaks. The footage shot in the early afternoon of February 6.

    Ain’t Gore Bull Warbling grand?

  7. Don says:

    It is where the missing Arctic ice is hiding.

    Weather patterns, as has been noted before right here, seem to be, as far as North America is concerned, returning to those that saw ice ages of the past. Government is always good at preparing for the past war, so government being concerned about massive warming when odds are it is cooling we need to be preparing for is should be no surprise.

    Of course the new fright story they are attempting to gain traction with is the warming unleashing massive methane releases. Bill Moyers is on board with that, so you know it is a serious attempt. Moyers, who has spent his life at the taxpayer teat, is one of their go-to guys in media when they are moving in a certain direction.

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