This June, less sea ice covered the Arctic than in any year, save one, since records began being kept in 1979. And because of heavy melting in July, the National Snow and Ice Center in Boulder, Colorado, reports that 2011 is now on track to drop below the record low-ice minimum set in 2007.
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Steve,
how silly of them. We all know 2011 has been tracking 2006!
Cool. Sounds like you are ready to bet on a record low.
Tony
Have you read “The Hockey Stick Illusion”?
PAUL,
No I haven’t. I said that in the other post, and agree that if I read it it might have just the information to convince me of Mann’s corrupt attempt to make data fit his agenda. However as a skeptic I would need to check out the accuracy of any facts and assertions in it
Why the shyness, Tony, you have shown great talent for divining goings on from the figments of your imagination. Or does that only work when you are Hansen’s shitbull spreading bullshit
deebee,
sorry you are confusing me with Steve and many others on this site remember it is STEVE who believes a misquote form a second hand source in a third hand article 13 years after the fact. When the source of the quote retracts it. hansen denies it, AND there is documentation of the accurate quote very clearly in the source that is plastered all over the article itself. yet Steve and others imagine all sorts of bizarre ways that somehow make the misquote true and put into question that actual quote.
as I have said repeatedly I have never said I agreed or support Hansen’s claims, i just am making sure that Steve only ridicules the real ones. Gunny how unacceptable that position appears to be around here.
and there is nothing to be shy about. As with Hansen, i do not know enough about the science to have any opinion on the corrupt nature of mann’s work. i just don;t believe Steve or anyone else just on their authority, and I want to check facts before coming to conclusions
Starting a pool for the date upon which “Tony Duncan” tries to say that the NSIDC was misquoted by both Steven Goddard and The Graun. Off the top, I’m taking exactly one week from to-day (ie 08.Aug,2011 21:02 UTC).
August 11th
Stark,
I have no idea what the NSIDC says. On the date of that article, the actual fact was that. the statement was from the Guardian and it was not a direct quote. Ah I found it!
“Arctic sea ice extent declined rapidly through the first two weeks of July, at a rate averaging nearly 120,000 square kilometers (46,000 square miles) per day. Ice extent is now tracking below the year 2007, which saw the record minimum September extent.
During the first half of July, a high-pressure cell persisted over the northern Beaufort Sea, as it did in June, and is linked to the above-average air temperatures over much of the Arctic Ocean. To date in July, air temperatures over the North Pole (at the 925 millibar level, or roughly 1,000 meters or 3,000 feet above the surface) were 6 to 8 degrees Celsius (11 to 14 degrees Fahrenheit) higher than normal, while temperatures along the coasts of the Laptev and East Siberian seas were 3 to 5 degrees Celsius (5 to 9 degrees Fahrenheit) higher than average. By contrast, temperatures through the first half of July over the Kara Sea have been 2 to 5 degrees Celsius (4 to 9 degrees Fahrenheit) lower than average.”
Note that it does NOT say “on track to drop below the record minimum”, but Ice extent IS tracking below the year 2007. In fact it WAS tracking below. It was a factual statement. A minor distortion, Quite mild for the media
I have been pointing out how STEVE has been saying “tracking 2006” for a couple of months, because he has been ridiculing alarmists for not predicting a record low minimum this year at the SAME time as he has been saying that there are too many local weather factors to make any serious accurate prediction. Of course when he was saying that it was actually tracking 2007.
And now of course the deluge of comments showing how this simple accurate explanation just shows my maroonism.
Srtark,
also note that the NSIDC mentions areas where temps are BELOW normal. Can you imagine Steve mentioned a place with temps ABOVE normal?
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/hottest-month-on-record-in-washington-dc/
Steve,
Wow, I stand corrected, and I actually remember reading that post, though i didn;t quite get what you were trying to say.
Stark, i retract my last comment and acknowledge that it was dead wrong. Boy that wasn’t so hard. I actually feel good about myself now!