http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.html
http://weather.unisys.com/archive/sst/sst_anom-100905.gif
Over the past month, we have seen a sharp drop in SST anomalies in both hemispheres. Most notable is the very cold water north of Russia, in the upper left corner.
This is one reason why forecasters in Russia are predicting the coldest winter in a thousand years.
http://rt.com/Best_Videos/2010-10-07/coldest-winter-emergency-measures.html
Steve, links to original images? Data?
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http://weather.unisys.com/archive/sst/?C=M;O=D
Source images, this is what I was looking for, not archived images. Thanks Amino, I know about that page.
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bbttxu
a link you can follow daily:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/ensosea-levelsea-surface-temperature-page/
It will be hard to believe it if 2010 ends up being the hottest year ever seeing La Nina is quickly pulling temps down.
Don’t underestimate the skill of the GISS temperature engineers.
Well, after seeing those WoodForTrees graphs from recent years you just might be right.
I don’t normally condone pixel counting, but just as an idle curiosity, I took the first image for each month of the year and ran it through a program I wrote. Averages for these particular dates are:
01/03: 0.39
02/07: 0.22
03/07: 0.20
04/04: 0.18
05/02: 0.16
06/06: 0.11
07/04: 0.23
08/01: 0.34
09/05: 0.46
Avg: 0.25
And images from this post:
*09/06: 0.42
*10/07: 0.31
At a quick glance, we’re still above the average anomaly for the YTD, and fluctuations in temperature don’t seem out of the ordinary. There was a -0.28 drop over the first five months and then an increase of 0.35 in the next 4.
What’s the news here?
The news is that high latitudes are extremely distorted on this projection, so you can’t do pixel counting without correcting for latitude.
So one full post and 12 responses into this already, can you let us in on what the steep drop is? Also, can you compare this with the trends for the years?
Can you at least provide links to the source where you got the numbers to declare that the SST are, in fact, declining?
You’ve got interesting ideas, but your rapid fire posting leaves a lot to desire as far as information and data is concerned. My suggestion to you would be to post less, but dedicate more time to those posts that you do decide to pursue.
I agree. Steve seems very quick to posts new threads, even if they are about old topics, rather than answer the difficult questions.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2010/10/meanwhile-sea-surface-temperatures-continue-to-fall/
Brendon says:
October 8, 2010 at 5:17 am
I agree. Steve seems very quick to posts new threads, even if they are about old topics, rather than answer the difficult questions.
Is that true? Or are you quick to post comments even if everyone already knows what you are going to say?
bbttxu
why do you keep beating on a dead horse? Is everyone supposed to do things as you require? Are they supposed to read your mind and know exactly what to do and say so that they will not displease your expectations?
Get real dude.
What you need to do is get your own blog. Then everything will be as you require. Then you can demonstrate to the world what perfection looks like.
Amino, perhaps you are right. In a blog with the word “science” in it, why should I expect transparency, reproducibility of results, data actually be shown/used?
The sad fact is that I’m trying to learn more about the subject by coming to this blog and asking my questions here (which I believe to be valid), yet I never get any answers, just roadblocks.
When I ask for source information, it’s not just to quibble over some trivial matter, it’s because I want to see not only the data presented here, but in the days, weeks, months around that data to look at trends. Because it interests me.
bbttxu says:
October 8, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Amino, perhaps you are right. In a blog with the word “science” in it, why should I expect transparency, reproducibility of results, data actually be shown/used?
This pep talk would be good for Michael Mann. 🙂
So far, we’ve escaped misery here in the NW. But I see our warm pool is shrinking. I think Bastardi said to expect the drop in November.
The coldest winter in a 1000 years is a great example of chinese whispers in the modern media.
A crackpot called Dr. Gianluigi Zangari claimed that the Gulf Stream had slowed because of the BP oil spill. Some Polish blogs reported it, then a radio show interviewed a meteorologist and asked him what would happen if the Gulf Stream did indeed slow down or stop. The meteorologist said it would become colder in Europe. This was picked up as forecast by Polish newspapers, which then became a story in Russia, which then became ‘Forecasters predict the coldest winter in a 1000 years’.
How can we have cold winters? Global warming is happening. 😉
This is tongue in cheek, yes? You don’t really think that global warming means that winter will no longer be cold?
I have to ask because I have run across some people who actually do think that.
I move in mysterious ways.
There’s been cooling in the North Atlantic. El Nino heat is dissipating. I suppose that is due to manmade co2.
😉
El Nino heat is dissipating. I suppose that is due to manmade co2.
No, and no one says that it is.
“This is one reason why forecasters in Russia are predicting the coldest winter in a thousand years”.
This information is wrong.
The forecast has been made by Polish forecasters.
The Russians don’t agree.
I also think the original article is translated very poorly but that’s another subject.