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Eugenie Harvey
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Eugenie HarveyDirector, 10:10 [email protected]
People who imagine they can stop climate change by making snuff flicks about children are certifiable.
But we do have the power to stop fascism.
It is time to acknowledge that mainstream environmentalism has failed to prevent climate catastrophe. Its refusal to call for an immediate consumption reduction has backfired and its demise has opened the way for a wave of fascist environmentalists who reject democratic freedom.
Guardian – September 16, 2010
The “10:10″ers’ “Splattergate” videos finally reveal them for who they are: bloodthirsty eugenicists who intend to wipe the majority of humans off the face of the earth, by any means necessary…..
The CAGW crowd are cut from the same cloth as Jim Jones. An evolving pathological “final solution” to a personal affliction of fear and self loathing.
Uhhh, nothing to see here, move along……………. and oh, by the way, skeptics are corrupt – according to Greenpeace once again:
“SplatterGate: When Greenpeace is given lemons, they make lemonade” http://www.freedompub.org/profiles/blogs/splattergate-when-greenpeace
Excerpt: “In this case, the Greenpeace spokesperson once again deflects the narrative back to their propaganda about scheming skeptics, and you know this will soon be regurgitated by left-wing bloggers in viral form. Thus, the fundamental premise of the video is promoted after all – anybody with opposing viewpoints must be viewed with suspicion. “
People who imagine they can stop climate change by making snuff flicks about children are certifiable.
So, your view is that the video–which was lamentable, to be sure–actually advocates the killing of children? Really?
As I said elsewhere, this shows a very tenuous grip on reality.
By the way, the well-known Python “How to Not Be Seen” sketch–in which people get blown up for no reason whatsoever–is that also a “snuff flick”?
Monty Python made fun of hateful and violent cultures, like the eco-fascist movement you are defending.
The Python sketch involved indeterminate individuals disappearing in a flash of smoke, at a distance. Getting rid of silly people in an inordinately violent way. Humorous in its absurdity.
The 10:10 monstrosity involved singling out individuals, shown as lesser beings (unkempt, desultory and anti-consensus) in a graphic and very up-close and personal way. Appalling in its severity and gruesome in its execution. Nothing in the least funny.
The message was clear: “If you don’t conform, you will suffer at our hands.”
This must neither be tolerated nor accepted. Worse things await if we do.
Perhaps it has escaped your notice that the video was neither “tolerated nor accepted” by those who think the science is right. There was, in fact, a veritable howl of protest against it. So what’s your point?
I think the point is that this horrifying point of view
is lurking just below the surface of all of this Green, AGW, paranoia and fear mongering and it only takes a bit
of work to tease it out.
With this awful video campaign, they ( the ones who do not get that it is horrifying) have let the mask slip and shown the average punter this lurking menace behind the climate crisis movement.
If you , Chris, claim that you have never heard this line of thinking about “overpopulation, Pettit Linkola, and “Carrying Capacity”
and ‘the need for de-development” and so forth, which ultimately given the urgency with which the fake crisis is portrayed, lead to genocidal ideas, then I do not believe you.
I suspect that half the howls are those who know that
even if you want to, saying that you will smother a baby is not well advised, and feel more exposed than shocked.
I think the point is that this horrifying point of view
is lurking just below the surface of all of this Green, AGW, paranoia and fear mongering
Uh, no, it’s not.
even if you want to, saying that you will smother a baby is not well advised
Oh, please. Listen carefully: Nobody wants to smother babies. I think you’ve missed the point that it’s all about the climate that that baby, and its babies, will inherit. What’s going to happen in a hundred years isn’t going to have the slightest effect on me or anyone else who wants to see something done. We’ll all be dust. It’s all about that baby.
Sundance likes humor. I think everyone has been much too hard on these videographers for their use of gallows humor. I suggest that people should reconsider and support their continued use of humor for all of their climate change promotions. In fact I suggest that you encourage them to re-release of the current 10:10 video edited to incorporate a laugh track at the proper incendiary moments in the film. That’s how Monty Python does it and I that would make the video as right as maim, I mean rain. An alternative version would consist of Polar Bears falling out of nowhere on top of the 10:10 non-participant targets and eating them. Now that would be funny! Talk about climate justice. LOL
Lighthearted humor should also be encouraged in the science communication too. Just think how many more people might read the next IPCC report if it consisted of 75% jokes and cartoons and only 25% science. The IPCC could stage the world release of the official IPCC AR5 report by televising it on the Comedy Channel as officials and lead authors on hand could bandy about the set in mad-capped fashion with giant flaming Earth globes on their heads and beating one another with carbon offset rubber chickens. If that doesn’t get someone to get involved in climate matters, well then yours truly doesn’t know what will. No doubt the Nobel Committee would take notice.
Someone should see if Mel Brooks is busy.
“What’s going to happen in a hundred years isn’t going to have the slightest effect on me or anyone else who wants to see something done. We’ll all be dust. It’s all about that baby.”
Maybe you haven’t yet scratched this underbelly, but don’t tell me that it is not real.
http://www.optimumpopulation.org/
http://www.penttilinkola.com/pentti_linkola/ecofascism/
http://www.esva.net/~leo/carrycap.html
http://blogs.epicindia.com/leapinthedark/2006/02/it_is_obvious_that_something.html
http://dieoff.org/page99.htm
Cheez, these malthusians are everywhere.
Imagine if people 100 years ago tried to predict our current problems. They wouldn’t have had the slightest clue.
IF you described the world today, and the practical abundance,
and then told them of people who decry the abundance, decry the progress and development, and actively wish for worldwide societal suicide, well the mind does boggle.
So, everyone who thinks climate scientists are probably right, and that we really ought to cut back on dumping 30 billion tons of garbage into our eggshell-thin atmosphere every year is a Maluthusian? Seriously?
Every movement has its extremists. Kindly don’t paint everyone who believes the scientists are right with that brush.
If you do, I will have to assume that all of you agree and sympathize with the morons who threaten Hansen and other climate scientists with death. How does that sound? Does that seem fair to you? Does it seem accurate?
CO2 is not garbage and 30 billion tons is an extremely small percentage of the atmosphere. 5×10^18 kg. People who fantasize about killing children are garbage.
“So, everyone who thinks climate scientists are probably right, and that we really ought to cut back on dumping 30 billion tons of garbage into our eggshell-thin atmosphere every year is a Maluthusian? Seriously?”
Well, only the ones who actually know what they are talking about.
Obviously they have you convinced that CO2 is garbage, pollution and poison, which it ain’t.
And in some sense you might be convinced that life could go on without emitting any CO2.
But surprise, life is a carbon thing, No Co2 emissions, no life.
It really is that simple.
As to the malthusians, well which came first the chicken or the egg ?
In this case the eugenics and the desire to eliminate “useless eaters”, defectives, and “others” came first, then the THEORY of the Global warming gave the good excuse to revive it.
http://www.greenlivingtips.com/blogs/411/More-on-population-control.html
—- That’s right, tell the INTELLIGENT children not to ave any children and celebrate that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUJMR3BUm2s&feature=player_embedded
Think about what this great man is saying .
Sorry Chris, if you want to be a part of a movement, maybe you should know what the movement is about.
I invite moderation. It gives me no pleasure to post this stuff and I am avoiding the crackpot sites.
CO2 in amounts that are double what the planet can absorb annually is indeed garbage. It is excess waste product that’s not being recycled in any sort of reasonable time frame.
A bit of sleight of hand known as “the inappropriate divisor.” 99.95% of the atmosphere is non-GHGs and essentially irrelevant to keeping the Earth warm enough for us to live on. If you divide that 30gt by the appropriate divisor–the total GHGs, not the total atmosphere–it is not such an “extremely small percentage” after all.
It seems that so often you “skeptics” offer so little but setting up straw men and then ceremoniously knocking them down. I didn’t say that. Nobody says that. Do you seriously think that the scientists–and I–are that stupid?
And I am not part of any “movement”, thank you very much. I simply believe that the scientists are right and you are wrong. The miniscule minority of the human race that are so-called Malthusians have nothing to do with whether or not the Earth is actually heating up. I believe that it is.
“Nobody says that. ”
Bill Gates said it, as if he believed it.
I believe what Gates was talking about was zero emissions from burning fossil fuels and the like. That isn’t the same as zero emissions. I assure you that life will get along just fine without us burning a lot of coal and oil.
“I assure you that life will get along just fine without us burning a lot of coal and oil.”
If we appropriate a tract the size of Khazikstan and stuff it with carbon-intensive-to-produce windmills maybe.
Or some nuclear reactors which would be fine with me.
OF course as with other things none of this is simple.
Can I burn some nat-gas to keep warm ?
IS that ok ?
Actualy it seemed to me that Mr. GAtes was suggesting that all of the services delivered to us ( at a cost) could be CO2 Zero,
which as you know is absurd.
Uh-Oh. I’ve stumbled upon the stupid-dope conservative blog.
” … a wave of fascist environmentalists who reject democratic freedom.”
Say what you really mean, conservative dopes. Which is the following: Anyone who interferes with the smooth operation of business, who interrupts the flow of profits, is a fascist in our book.
You morons don’t have the nerve to look at the historical facts of fascism: That it was a far right-wing philosophy; that the fate of both Mussolini and Hitler were both deeply entwined with corporations; that Mussolini said fascism should properly be called “state corporatism” because it represented the final merger between the state and corporate interests. Doesn’t any of this sound familiar to all of you dumb moron conserva-twits?
If you people were any smarter you’d be stupid.
Hitler contracted with IBM to create a system for distributing human beings to the work camps and gas chambers. The tattoos on the wrists of Holocaust survivors are the work of IBM. But, somehow, to a conserva-twit, this close relationship between Adolph Hitler, the Third Reich, and a western corporation such as IBM, is not relevant. Hitler is still somehow … “left-wing.”
Further, conserva-twits, consider that both Hitler and Mussolini jailed and persecuted communists and other leftists.
In the real world, in the world of actual thinking, breathing, reading human beings, communists are leftists. Anarchists are leftists. Socialists are leftists.
But, in the conserva-twit world, communists, socialists, and anarchists — though persecuted by Hitler and Mussolini — are somehow, well, FASCISTS TOO!
So really: Tell us, oh great conserva-twit morons of the world, tell us how exactly are environmentalists “fascists”? In what ways are they fascist? Are they persecuting communists? (Where ARE the communists anyway?) Where are the corporate connections? Where are the massive profits gained through advocating the cessation of fossil fuels? And, whatever profits are to be “gained” from such activism, please compare that profit with the profits garnered by the other side; the side that wishes no one speak of climate change; the side that has profited all along from the burning of fossil fuels (climate change’s main culprit): the various fossil fuel industries.
God how I loathe the right-wing. If any one of you were any smarter, you’d be stupid.
Until I pass from this Earth, I will forever loathe the right-wing and the true fascism it represents. You are the scum of the Earth. The scum. SUCM … OF … THE … EARTH.