Thick, old ice in the Arctic is making a spectacular recovery. The amount of four year old ice (yellow) has increased by 10X since last September.
Figure5_october_2012.png (2430×3170)
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Five year old ice (white) appears to have declined, but in fact it just compacted into a thicker mass north of Canada.
This was my post from October 5, 2011
It is simple math to predict that four year old ice will increase next September (2012) and five year old ice will increase in two years (2013.)
That should take some melting. I don’t think there can be an ice free arctic that soon considering that the melting always occurs on the other side of the Arctic mainly.
Andy
Hansen’s Hockey Stick 2012?
http://s11.postimage.org/5czop0a9f/Hansen_Hockey_Stick.jpg
Let’s hope your readers aren’t bright enough to actually click on the link you provided and see the full 1-5 yr ice history, LOL. This blog is the Chewbacca defense of climate denial.
Are you a moron?
Is his choice of names any indication?
Exhibit A: “The Chewbacca Defense is a term for any legal strategy or propaganda strategy that seeks to overwhelm its audience with nonsensical arguments, as a way of confusing the audience and drowning out legitimate opposing arguments.”
Exhibit B: “”I think it might be better to start out with smaller fish. Build a community and a team. Find some methods and strategies that work. Then start moving up the denier food chain with our targets set on WUWT. I could see this expanding into a broad team of 100 or more people (outside the scope of this SkS forum of course). We just need to raise our collective voices to drown them out.” – Rob Honeycutt [Skeptical Science], February 11, 2011
Well if they began here, they already FAILed.
Jerky – I believe Steve predicted an increase in all levels of 2-5 year ice based on another graph so ths only confirms that other graph. Thank you Steve looking forward to seeing the other updated graph at some point.
No I didn’t. This was my post from October 5, 2011
“It is simple math to predict that four year old ice will increase next September and five year old ice will increase in two years. Every year they push the bar up a year so that they can report bad news. Last year they complained about three year old ice.”
http://www.real-science.com/arctic-ice-continues-recover
“So what I’m saying, actually, you see, it’s a combination of both. I mean here is natural instinct and here is control. You are to combine the two in harmony. If you have one to the extreme, you’ll be very unscientific. If you have another to the extreme, you become, all of a sudden, a mechanical man, no longer a human being. So it is a successful combination of both, so therefore, it’s not pure naturalness or unnaturalness. The ideal is unnatural naturalness, or natural unnaturalness.” – Bruce Lee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSKL1Ph0eQc
Avoid the yellow ice (believe me, I’m a scientist).
It looks like John Cook’s rapid response team didn’t get the daily Arctic talking points.
I’m not getting it. Despite the age of the ice, the graph shows clearly that there’s less total ice than en 2008, and 1 year old ice didn’t seem to increase over the last year, so more than a recovery it looks just like some die hard layers of ice created at a spike in ’09 that are moving through time. Why is this good news?
This post is about older thicker ice. Try to focus.
Amazing. The green 3 yearvold ice is now yellow 4 year old ice. I bet if it doesn’t melt it will be 5 year old ice whatever color that is roughly 365 days from now. Steve, that was a rhetorical question, right? Of course he’s a moron but by definition a moron is incapable of knowing that he or she is a moron. This is a good thing because that knowledge would hurt his her self esteem!
Looking at this graph I cannot see 4y-old ice to be 10-fold from 2011 to 2012.
http://nsidc.org/asina/images//Figure5_october_2012.png
Next to that: Steven where is my money? The 2012 minimum was reached a while ago.
Now stop talking and come into action: pay your lost bets!
Look paranoid dumbass, if you would answer my e-mail asking your contact information it would make it easier.
Can’t you pick the right e-mail adress from your blog?
In my mail-inbox there is no mail with the word goddard or steven.
Check your spam folder. I sent it to you yesterday.