Many Manhattans of new ice forming in open water between the older floes, in the Arctic right now.
Disrupting the Borg is expensive and time consuming!
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All the ice melted in 2012 or 2013. It was predicted by many, including a Nobel Laureate. Can they be wrong? 🙂
Some are saying 2030. I linked to one such Bozo’s website yesterday. And he’s serious too. And how many of us will be around in 2030 to remember such absurdity?
Here is a nice one :
https://nsidc.org/data/masie/index.html
“NSIDC is closed today because of severe weather and flooding. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may cause you.
Need to talk to us? You can always contact our friendly User Services Office at [email protected] or + 1 303.492.6199.”
The open areas between the floes, caused by the cyclones that moved through there this summer, will now (since the temps have turned cold and the sun is setting for the year) allow for greater heat loss from the arctic waters and more rapid ice growth then if a solid expanse of ice was there. Just like the cracks in the Beaufort led to cooler waters and an rapid increase in ice volume this February, March and April while the arctic temps were still very low, the broken floes found in the central arctic now will again create a rapid increase in volume this fall/winter. As that thinner new ice is compressed between the thicker floes by the Beaufort Gyre’s winds and currents we are going to get large sections of thick new ice ridges to complement the thick multi-year ice floes .
It’s a self-regulating system, with a favorable geography on the north of Canada. If the Bering Strait was broader, as the area at the East of Greenland, the chances of eventual ice free summer would greatly increase and the whole process of recovery would be much more difficult, more connected with full ice age conditions IMO.
The Arctic ice is an important parameter in the analysis of the equilibrium of the entire climate on Earth and a kind of global “thermometer”, when the Arctic ice is OK, everything else tends to be OK too.
Steve, another PIOMAS chart. Comments.
http://psc.apl.washington.edu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/schweiger/ice_volume/BPIOMASIceVolumeAnomalyCurrentV2_CY.png
PIOMAS shows volume up 46% and the highest in four years.
I’ve been keeping an eye on the “North Pole Camera,” which usually drifts south and through Fram Strait before spring. Last year they picked it up down there with an icebreaker in late October, I think. This year the buoy and camera keep getting pushed back north. Today it was moving north, and is further north than it was back on August 13. The Arctic is refusing to give up its ice.
http://sunriseswansong.wordpress.com/2013/08/31/the-arctic-sea-ice-minimum-a-september-surprise/
Great news. At a time of many records and continuous cooling also in Antarctica, this means that Earth’s climate is getting back on its track.
Now we need to understand what happened with the solar radiation in the last century (very high), what is happening now (very high) and what consequences we should expect.
err: .. happening now (very low) …
Steve, Greenland starts off the September 1 2013 surface mass balance over and above the mean. Must be from the non stop summer snow storms at the Greenland Country Club.
http://beta.dmi.dk/en/groenland/maalinger/greenland-ice-sheet-surface-mass-budget/
Greenland was actually named by a lying murderer
I wish I could get the past data but it looks like Greenland might of set the highest surface mass balance for this time of year on record. Meaning much more snow in water equivalent on record for First week of September.
“Greenland was actually named by a lying murderer.”
Easy for you to say that now, but I doubt you would have been so quick to talk like that when Eric the Red was breathing. Care to walk up to him and be blunt? The guy who tried it is likely the guy who got murdered, only they didn’t call it “murder” when both guys were armed. Nor did they incarcerate anyone for murder. Eric had a trial, and you can bet the judge was armed and had a bunch of armed men beside him. It was a rough old world, back then. (One reason for the invention of a glass bottom on a beer stein was that when you tipped the stein back your throat was exposed, and you needed to keep an eye on the other guy.)
As far as the “lying” part is concerned, Greenland was actually much greener. I’m not talking about the inland icecap, which was,is, and will be thick ice for many thousands of years (at the very least,) but rather I’m talking about the land right by the coast, and inland along the west-coast fjords. There is evidence that even on the east coast, where the land is barren now, there were these scubby trees growing, and the glaciers had retreated to some degree. (When the glaciers came back they crushed the brush, and then when they retreated a little during the past fifty years they exposed crushed brush from the MWP.) The brush that wasn’t crushed simply was killed by the cold of the Little Ice Age, and the coastline was sometimes locked in by ice, and even even when you can approach the coast it looks bleak and barren. However a thousand years ago the coastline was ice-free and, yes, green (in the summer.)
That was one of the reasons some so-called “climatologists” felt they had to “erace the MWP.” Who would worry, if it was so much warmer so recently?