Shock News : IPCC Suffering From Dementia

4 Responses to Shock News : IPCC Suffering From Dementia

1. @njsnowfan says:

   September 30, 2013 at 4:11 am

   Funny you posted that, I have been a fishermen for many years in the NJ water and this year some Cod and Pollock are being caught off the NJ shore where they normally are not this time of year.
   Surface water temps are normal to above from the Satellite surface data. Cod and polick like colder water.
   Here is one report from the other day.
   http://www.njfishing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64043

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2. @njsnowfan says:

   September 30, 2013 at 4:14 am

   one more report Cod fish
   http://www.njfishing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63913

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3. Peter_Y says:

   September 30, 2013 at 5:59 am

   There is another problem with the IPCC .. believe it or not!
   Quote: “It is virtually certain that the upper ocean (0?700 m) warmed from 1971 to 2010”.
   (IPCC Summary Report 2013)

   There is a problem with that quote. We can only rely on the ocean data since mid 2003 when the Argo buoy network became operational. It uses over 3,000 floating thermometers spread throughout the world’s oceans. Before 2003 researchers had to use erratic and highly *uncertain* measurements from boats.

   The Argo data is unique for several reasons :- 1/. The distribution of data is uniform rather than dependant on shipping lines. .. 2/. There is a lack of seasonal bias since the floats operate year round. .. 3/. The network provides free, automatic data within 24 hours, and scientific data within months. .. 4/. There is multi-national collaboration to deploy, monitor and analyze the floats and their data. (http://www.argo.ucsd.edu/Novel_Argo.html)

   Therefore, the data can only be “virtually certain” since mid 2003. .. Perhaps the full IPCC report will clarify their methods and reasoning.

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4. Jimbo says:

   September 30, 2013 at 11:01 pm

   The Medieval time was bloody freezing. It froze so much that Dr. Michael man says that olives grew in Germany.

   Medieval Climatic Optimum
   Michael E Mann – University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA, USA

   It is evident that Europe experienced, on the whole, relatively mild climate conditions during the earliest centuries of the second millennium (i.e., the early Medieval period). Agriculture was possible at higher latitudes (and higher elevations in the mountains) than is currently possible in many regions, and there are numerous anecdotal reports of especially bountiful harvests (e.g., documented yields of grain) throughout Europe during this interval of time. Grapes were grown in England several hundred kilometers north of their current limits of growth, and subtropical flora such as fig trees and olive trees grew in regions of Europe (northern Italy and parts of Germany) well north of their current range. Geological evidence indicates that mountain glaciers throughout Europe retreated substantially at this time, relative to the glacial advances of later centuries (Grove and Switsur, 1994). A host of historical documentary proxy information such as records of frost dates, freezing of water bodies, duration of snowcover, and phenological evidence (e.g., the dates of flowering of plants) indicates that severe winters were less frequent and less extreme at times during the period from about 900 – 1300 AD in central Europe……………………

   Some of the most dramatic evidence for Medieval warmth has been argued to come from Iceland and Greenland (see Ogilvie, 1991). In Greenland, the Norse settlers, arriving around AD 1000, maintained a settlement, raising dairy cattle and sheep. Greenland existed, in effect, as a thriving European colony for several centuries. While a deteriorating climate and the onset of the Little Ice Age are broadly blamed for the demise of these settlements around AD 1400,
   http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/shared/articles/medclimopt.pdf

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