The authors of this study have absolutely no clue what future temperatures will be, much less what their effect will be on droughts and floods along the Indian Ocean.
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But they were paid handsomely to not know.
Which study? A link would be useful …
LMGTFY. One link:
http://mashable.com/2014/06/11/global-warming-drought-flood-frequency
It seems to have been propagated ad nauseum. Of course, brainless alarmist followers will accept it without question, because it’s “scary”.
Yes well getting the gossip about the study is not really talking about the study is it?
I know that Steve likes to be, how shall we say, economical, with his posts, but making a comment about something and not giving the source is being a little too obscure IMO.
No one knows the future. Period. Anyone who says they do is a liar or a fool.
http://www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2014/06/12/4023302.htm
CSIRO have become a corrupt or incompetent organisation.
No drought in Australia so far this year. Alarmists have their fingers and knees crossed.
http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/rain/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=decile&period=3month&area=nat
Thankfully, Obama’s birthplace has his financial support to build lots of eagle choppers fully subsidised by a US Government Agency named the US Private Investment Corp (UPIC). This will surely drop the IOD to sub-armaggedon levels. Now that is a bit of a co-incidence……..is it not?
http://wind.cleantechnology-business-review.com/news/us-to-support-kenya-wind-power-project-110614-4289853
Kenyans thank the US taxpayer!
It’s like the bad guys in Afghanistan are the good guys in Syria but again the bad guys in Iraq. Like climate change they can be anything they want.
I think your title is too conservative.
Climate change will also triple the amount of dandruff, tooth decay, bath breath and BO. Not to mention ring around the collar. Now, where is my grant money?
Not only that, but climate change is making my skin wrinkly and giving me little brown spots on the backs of my hands. I started noticing them about a decade ago, not too long after my 50th birthday. They just keep getting worse and worse. I think it must be carbon poisoning.
It will make you go blind as well. 😉
Climate change is real to everyone except Republicans. It’s not real because the GOP says it’s not real. The GOP’s fundamental philosophy: money is more important than human lives. I think we’re making a good response. However, the conservatives should calm down, from what I’ve seen and read, it’s too late anyway to stop. What’s done cannot be undone. I think the second best strategy is just to prepare for higher sea levels and the changes they will cause. We should still continue our efforts towards green energy, but in the long run we must prepare for a different planet. Come on Republicans, you can at least deal with that. I’ve given you a semi-respectable way out. Go for it.
I am an independent, and there is absolutely no truth in anything you have written above. If this were my blog (which is a science blog, not a political forum), I would not accept such a comment.
Ok. We know the sea level is going to rise. What can you do about? I am a medical doctor with a strong scientific background. If political ideology would stay out of science we would all be better off. I trust science. But the latest data indicate its too late to stop the damage. Best thing is to prepare for it and continue working on a sane energy policy. Just accept this and deal with it.
If you trust science, why are you supporting CAGW? It is not science. It is not even an hypothesis yet. It is hysteria for political reasons.
So you are either lying or ignorant. You pick.
What a maroon; the actual measurement of temperature by the best means available shows NO WARMING yet these clowns still make these kinds of claims.
Oh, I forgot. This kind of ‘clown’ is only a cheer leader and not capable of looking at the data and the weighing evidence and making a rational conclusion.
Nope. To this clown it’s all POLITICS. A Sheep. One of those who ‘follows the crowd’.
Bah. We can go ANYWHERE and get that kind of ‘weak’, unbased perspective … like SS for instance.
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Who’s talking about temperature? The fact is that polar and Antarctic and Greenlands ice is melting at never seen before rates. This has been documented. We can do nothing about it now except have coastal cities prepare. Is this so difficult to grasp? I think the government and millenials will deal with this despite some people’s horror. But your “science” is something so different than my training. You can’t believe this way for long. It’s not safe. I was confused by your allusion to SS. Do mean social security or Schutzstaffeln? I’m asking this on a need to know basis. Choose your reply very carefully.
David, you have not examined the science. If you think you have, then you are not thinking.
Your comments make you a clown. If you really have a medical doctor license, you bought it in Nigeria. You have no knowledge of chemistry, physics, or Earth sciences. You are probably a loner in your parents basement, or a paid hack.
If I am wrong, then please explain, in 100 words or less, how CO2 can warm the planet.
Your turn.
David, what state do you practice medicine in? I want to avoid it as I want to stay healthy.
Try this graph.
http://suyts.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/image80.png
And try something else new for you – LEARNING
I am also an independent as well as a chemist. It was BUSH (the Shrub) who saw to it that the SOCIALIST Maurice Strong became chair for Kyoto. (Strong had donated to his campaign)
Betcha didn’t know that did you?
Betcha didn’t know:
The United States signed the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change treaty on June 121992 UNDER BUSH!
It was ratified Oct 15, 1992 again UNDER BUSH!
George Herbert Walker Bush served as the 41st President of the United States from 1989 to 1993.
Yeah, “Read-my-lips” Bush was a phony, but when I voted for him I had no real choice. Bush or Fritz–kinda tells you something, huh?
Speaking of GOP phonies—
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqUGzJRBpFk
Why do you think I am an Independent?
I can not stomach the self-serving phonies in either party.
Betcha didn’t know that no one gives a shit. But I do know how nonsensical your scam is. I’m a socialist and I don’t like you.
I bet you are not a socialist with your own money. You may very well agree with taking MY property and redistributing it, but I am quite sure that you don’t do it with YOUR money. Median income for an individual is a little less than $30,000 a year. You say, “I am a medical doctor with a strong scientific background.” I would think that you make more than that each year. How about it? Does your income over $30,000 go to the “less fortunate?” Are you a socialist with your own money, or only with mine?
😆 Translation – you are an idiot and hypocrite and you cannot stand facts.
Yeah Climate Change is real but they elite never bothered to tell the serfs it is going to change to COLD not warm long term.
You can wade through all the papers quoted here: Glacial Inception: the climatic ‘madhouse’
It is only about 35 pages. It is mainly excerpts from the most important papers in Paleoclimate science on glacial inception. Given that William handed me his collection of over 300 papers on the subject it really is just a brief survey of the literature.
As William says in the comments:
This is a subject completely out side the IPCCs mandate of finding evidence of mankind effect on the climate and therefore a subject rarely touched outside of Paleoclimate science circles.
A fall 2012 paper “Can we predict the duration of an interglacial?”gives the solar insolation and CO2 for termination of several interglacials. Current values are insolation = 479 and CO2 = 400 ppmv
MIS 7e – insolation = 463 W m?2, CO2 = 256 ppmv
MIS 11c – insolation = 466 W m?2, CO2 = 259-265 ppmv
MIS 13a – insolation = 500 W m?2, CO2 = 225 ppmv
MIS 15a – insolation = 480 W m?2, CO2 = 240 ppmv
MIS 17 – insolation = 477 W m?2, CO2 = 240 ppmv
To give you a feel for how close to glaciation we are, you can look at the calculations from NOAA:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/climate_forcing/orbital_variations/berger_insolation/insol91.jun
depth of the last ice age – around 463 W m?2
NOW (modern Warm Period) 476Wm-2
Are we headed into glaciation? Who the heck knows. However since “…Solar energy reached a summer maximum (9% higher than at present) ~11 ka ago and has been decreasing since then, primarily in response to the precession of the equinoxes…” ** I would think long and hard about curbing CO2 with its many benefits for the plant kingdom. and crops. Especially since more than one paper indicates high CO2 levels are keeping the earth out of full glaciation and other papers indicate C3 plant CO2 starvation during the Wisconson Ice Age.
** Temperature and precipitation history of the Arctic (2010)
http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/robock/MillerArctic.pdf
And how has cheap energy increased the life span of ALL humans, not just the select few like algore and Mikey mann?
Seems the republicans love ALL people, while alarmists and liberals only like SOME people. They seek to terminate (euthanize) the rest.
That “…Solar energy reached a summer maximum (9% higher than at present) ~11 ka ago and has been decreasing since then, primarily in response to the precession of the equinoxes…” is the real killer for CAGW.
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change estimated that the change in forcing for anthropogenic CO2 was 1.5 W/m 2 [cf., Reid, 1997]. So that gives us a ball park number to compare to.
9% less solar energy translates to ~120 W/m² less solar energy based on 1,361 W/m² (solar min) and 1362 W/m² (solar max) @ ToA.
Even if you are talking 9% of Trenbreth’s “incoming solar radiation… absolute forcing,… around 340 W m–2 at the top of the atmosphere” the reduction in solar radiation since the Holocene climate Optimum (11,000 years ago ) is 30.6 W m–2, and is close to equivalent to the entire CO2 forcing [32-44 W m–2] with mankind’s contribution being 1.5 W/m 2 for the forcing of anthropogenic CO2 [cf., Reid, 1997].
Can you see how completely nonsensical the whole scam is once you look at the entire Holocene?
(I really hate the word ‘Forcing’ since CO2 is only retarding out-going radiation if that.)