If you want to be a bona-fide Guardian moron, write about record heat just as Britain is about to get pummeled by record cold, and throw in a picture of Illinois – which just had their coldest year on record
My understanding is that Sun is always hot, and it has nothing to do with CO2.
I thought the sun was burning all the CO2 to stay hot. 😉
I never thought I would see the day when wholesale idiocy would be published by so-called “news” ‘operations’ one after another. Sheer idiocy on their part – all of them!
Keep up the good work, Tony.
The Guardian is a trust fund baby. IIRC from Delingpole or possibly Jo Nova.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30610567 HHEHEHEHEHEHHE Cold weather: Record 2014 freeze for England, Wales and Northern Ireland even BBC has given up on making things up
I see pictures allegedly showing that white stuff that was declared to be a thing of the past.
The propaganda has a backside: hiding the real news. NO winter cold story makes the headlines, these are played down. All the dead are ignored and never mentioned nor examined. Yes, a 90+ car pile up with a dozen dead makes brief news and then vanishes.
It works. It convinces people that the only weather news is about Australia and California which seem to be the only places on earth that matter and even with that, the floods in California are not making the news, either! So what if people died due to mudslides or drowning? Nothing. Dead silence.
They must have fired this guy!
To summarize, we find no direct evidence to support the claims that the Greenland ice sheet is melting due to increased temperature caused by increased atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide. The rate of warming from 1995 to 2005 was in fact lower than the warming that occurred from 1920 to 1930. The temperature trend during the next ten years may be a decisive factor in a possible detection of an anthropogenic part of climate signal over area of the Greenland ice sheet.
http://meteo.lcd.lu/globalwarming/Chylek/greenland_warming.html
From reading numerous posts on this site, I gather that one of the proofs that the earth is not warming is that some places are cold. So, global warming is disproved by local cold, is that the argument?
No, you don’t seem to have followed the controversy very well. It is the alarmists’ argument that global warming is proved by local warmth.
P. Geyer says:
“From reading numerous posts on this site, I gather that one of the proofs that the earth is not warming is that some places are cold. So, global warming is disproved by local cold, is that the argument?”
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No all that we are saying is that the MSM is censoring the news to prevent the Sheeple from waking up to the fact it is cold in other places and they are being systematically lied to.
You are coming in on a discussion that has gone on for over a decade. The arguments are a lot more complex than ‘some places are cold’, starting with the fact that temperature is a truly rotten measurement of energy. — Latent heat of evaporation makes the significance of a change of 0.02°C a complete and utter joke as any physicist worth his degree would acknowledge if they were honest. And that is not even getting into the fact a ‘global temperature’ is a completely unscientific measure in the first place. It is just a political propaganda tool.
2. Warmists are the ones who MUST PROVE there is anything unusual happening as the EIKE distinguished German physicist and climate expert Prof. Dr. Horst-Joachim Lüdecke very bluntly states.
3. No real scientist would condone the constant ‘adjustments’ to data that Steve Godard documents. The correct method of dealing with uncertainty in past data is error bars as this graph shows:
http://www.biomind.de/realCO2/bilder/CO2back1826-1960eorevk.jpg
4. No real scientist would condone tossing out over four hundred data stations and substituting ‘krigged’ approximations from 500 kilometers away. I mean really, that is ‘science’?!?
http://diggingintheclay.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/canadadt.png
Steve is only one of several researchers looking into the propaganda of CAGW and disinterring a rotten stinking mess.
For example Zeke Hausfather (of BEST)states:
Except that when you do the digging you find that is not exactly true.
That last sentence “There is a very obvious cooling bias in the record associated with the conversion of most co-op stations from LiG to MMTS “ is a real crock of bovine feces. A liquid in glass thermometer is going to respond much slower to temperature change than a MMTS sensor. My lab switch from glass thermometers in our lab ovens for that very reason. The MMTS sensor is going to register short temperature spikes from HVAC units, car or jet plane exhausts where a glass thermometer might not.
For another thing the US weather bureau did not issued Six Min Max Thermometer in 1982 but instead issued a mercury thermometer for reading hot temperatures and an alcohol for low temperatures because the Six Min Max Thermometer was found to be too inaccurate. They also issued a well written booklet.
Then you have: Meteorology: A Text-book on the Weather, the Causes of Its Changes, and Weather Forecasting By Willis Isbister Milham 1918
On page 68 he says a thermometer in a Stevenson screen is correct to within a half degree. It is most in error on still days, hot or cold. “In both cases the indications of the sheltered thermometers are two conservative.”
on Page 70
“The Ventilated thermometer which is the best instrument for determining the real air temperature, was invented by Assman at Berlin in 1887…will determine the real air temperature correctly to a tenth of a degree.”
He also talks of calibrating the thermograph records to thermometer readings on a frequent basis.
Sort of puts the lie to the glib defence of ‘adjustments’ by Hausfather doesn’t it?
ClimAstrologist would have us believe these REAL scientists were some sort of amateur flakes incapable of conducting real science when the reverse is true.
That explains why the maximums in Australia tend to be reported as 0.5°C over the highest half hour reading.
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDV60801/IDV60801.94693.shtml
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/IDCJDW3051.latest.shtml
And what happens then?
http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/weatherData/av?p_display_type=dataGraph&p_stn_num=076031&p_nccObsCode=36&p_month=13
Peyer..
Here are the trends from 2001 to 2014
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?sat=4&sst=1&type=trends&mean_gen=0112&year1=2001&year2=2014&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=1200&pol=rob
The only places with any substantial warming trend is the Arctic above Russia, (and the Russians don’t agree with this), GHCN dumped all the Russian temps because they didn’t suit the meme)
Also, if that warming is real, then the warming is in winter with temps rising from an average of 243K with peaks up to 255K. http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php
(Choose 2014 to see)
The other place is maybe Antarctica…… yeah as if, with massive sea ice growth. !!!
BOTH the warming places are were there are precious few thermometers, and the data is “from somewhere else”
The whole thing a monumental FARCE !!!
Yes, fraudulent government “science” started almost immediately after national governments were united under the United Nations on 24 OCT 1945 to “save frightened world leaders and the world from nuclear annihilation.
1. The Standard Solar Model is fraudulent
2. The Standard Nuclear Model is fraudulent
3. The Global Climate Models are fraudulent
I.e., most postmodern government science is fraudulent.
See: “Solar energy,” Adv. Astronomy (submitted for on-line review, 6 Jan 2015)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10640850/Solar_Energy_For_Review.pdf
No P-Geyer , Some places Colder ? You’re missing the point ,,, when it includes the fact that the South Pole in 2014 had more ICE than ever in recorded history ( normally holds 90% of World Ice ) and the North Pole is re-gaining ICE ( +40% in two years ). Plus every Continent is experiencing more Snow ( including Australia ) during 2014.
The doctored data, becomes more evident when it’s contradicted by real outcomes !
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There is a correlation between Weather & Climate ; when there is more Ice & Snow
on Planet Earth ; It is Not an Indicator for Warming. People can argue Graphs & Giss,,, but when the Predictions Fail ( Nth Pole Ice free by 2014 ? ) the Reality is absolute !
With all the Failed IPCC Predictions and the UN meeting in Paris in 2015 ; the “Warmest Year” is CC propaganda; despite it being fiction, it bolsters AGW agenda.
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IPCC blaming CO2 for AGW was a mistake, became a lie & is now blatant fraud.
“From reading numerous posts on this site, I gather that one of the proofs that the earth is not warming is that some places are cold. So, global warming is disproved by local cold, is that the argument?”
No PGeyer. Global warming is proven by:
local warming
local cooling
local drought
local rains
local ice melting
local added sea ice
tampered temperature data
tree ring hockey stick
sea level rise acceleration broken cue stick
bogus comparison to Venus
ad nauseum
ad emesis
Earth is in the middle of an Ice Age. Warm is good cold is bad. Have you ever wondered why old folks love Florida or Cancun.
http://c3headlines.typepad.com/.a/6a010536b58035970c0162fe374e65970d-pi
Read again.
Where is the stampede to move to Antarctica? Or Buffalo, NY! 🙂
My understanding is that Illinois, and the UK, are subsets of the global surface. Is this still current thinking?
The temperature is supposed to be rising at 0.2°C/decade.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/graph/gistemp/from:1985/compress:12/detrend:0.7
The last three years would have been the coldest since the mid 70s if CO2 hadn’t cancelled out the coming LIA.
-15C not good enough in UK in hottest year ever, it needs to be taken to -40C to be normal as this is the optimal temperature http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2914486/Arctic-blast-kill-one-person-seven-minutes-charity-warns-temperatures-set-plummet-15C-tomorrow-snow-way.html
The sun is quiet.
http://www.n3kl.org/sun/noaa.html
“The heavy snowfall in connection with the storms hitting Norway’s West Coast, is causing extra problems several places. In the town of Voss, the Civil Defence has been called out to remove snow from the roofs of municipal buildings.
The snow is 6 feet deep many places, and several large roofs were in danger of collapsing, and crews are working around the clock in an attempt to prevent severe damage.
Several schools and homes for the aged in the area were closed, for fear that the roofs would collapse.
Private homeowners are also hard at work.
Several mountain crossing from east to west have been closed to all traffic, due to the driving snow.
The forecast calls for more snow and strong winds.
There is also great danger of avalanches in several counties.”
http://www.norwaypost.no/index.php/news/latest-news/30521
Record-breaking snowfall in Norway. Glaciers will not disappear. Ice Age continues.
Well, there are many journalists who know nothing about such subjects. They read a “scientific” paper (which may or may not be supported by realistic data) or they see a weather report and then they try to “translate” it into something that should be easy to understand for the large public and also to bring audience, to sell. First of all, I think that they should be much more documented and realistisc when writing about such subjects. Reading some basic information wouldn’t hurt, especially since they are presented in a concise and simple manner, easy to understand, like this Guide to understand climate change: http://www.seaclimate.com/a/a1.html