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Gourmet dinner for progressives.
And here I was planning Turkish Moussaka made with ground goat.
Unless you are serving freshly picked Scotland mango and fresh pineapple from Ireland we will be sticking with our freshly harvested pasta.
BBC: Spaghetti-Harvest in Ticino – YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVo_wkxH9dU
Yes Paul, this Pasta comes from the Extrusion Tree & has a lot in common with AGW.
Dining at the White House tonight?
You forgot the banquet of pork pies, laid on by the far left socialists. !
peus de porc
http://recetascanyellenes.meximas.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/preus-de-porc.jpg
Pickled?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Pickled_pigs_feet.JPG
Tete de porc
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1095772753771978&set=pb.100000177901193.-2207520000.1429912006.&type=3&theater
from days I spent in a parallel cooking universe
You see, this is merely one of many reasons why i can’t see sharia law becoming popular…I mean…no pork ?
I was in Berlin a few weeks ago…I can’t imagine a pork free Germany
Next year you are all invited for a calçotada.
http://www.catalannewsagency.com/life-style/item/onions-on-fire-the-internationalisation-of-calcots
I thought Chilli would have to be on the menu for Progressives ; when everything else is trending Colder, they can at least sense some perceived Warming , but it’s only in their head !
Curious about the CO2 content in carbonated beverages I once wrote to the British Soft Drinks Association asking for their opinion ( http://www.britishsoftdrinks.com/ )
They stated that it is normal for there to be about 24g/L CO2 in most soft drinks and carbonated water, and that similar amounts are found in bottled beers and carbonated lagers.
So, 4L of coke or your preferred ‘death by sugar’ beverage releases as much CO2 as a high efficiency car (100g/km) does travelling 1km (and some cars better that)
It is completely feasible that there could be some pensioners who use their car only once or twice a week to go shopping release less CO2 than some households release through soft drink and beer consumption each week.
My argument has always been that IF CO2 were such a deadly gas, then why is it that this obviously huge source of CO2 in the atmosphere is not legislated against ?
After digging into it deeper, I had always assumed that most of the CO2 released this way would have come from the atmosphere anyway, through the compression of air and separation of the component gasses, but no….it seems that lots of the CO2 bought in is the cheaply available waste CO2 from industrial process which is captured during various manufacturing processes….and instead of the factory owners paying a penalty to release the CO2 they sell it and make profit….passing it on to the drink consumer to release it without having to pay CO2 carbon charge related taxes
But the worst of it is the process used to produce and supply bottled water is extremely carbon heavy and big user of oil….so when you see a green waving a bottle of water around as they lecture you….let yourself smile even more widely 🙂
http://pacinst.org/publication/bottled-water-and-energy-a-fact-sheet/
Me being polite to you for a change.
The difference is the origin of the CO2 (according to the CO2 haters, anyway)
CO2 from fossil fuels has not been in the shorter term carbon cycle for a long time, while CO2 in soft drinks, trees etc etc is part of the shorter term carbon cycle.
Digging up coal, and releasing gas from coal seams etc ADDS to the carbon in the shorter term carbon cycle. Soft drinks, burning wood, etc are part of the short term carbon cycle, ie they don’t add to the amount of carbon.
(Is oil and fracked gas, fossil fuel? That is a different debate, but it does add carbon to the carbon cycle)
Now, in my opinion, the world would be a far more abundant place, able to feed far more plants and animals, if there was much more carbon in the short term carbon cycle, but that would necessarily mean a higher CO2 concentration in the atmosphere.
“Soft drinks, burning wood, etc are part of the short term carbon cycle, ie they don’t add to the amount of carbon.”
I understand what you have said but you missed the point about how the CO2 is often now coming from captured industrial waste. One of the latest which springs to mind is cement manufacture
http://www.globalccsinstitute.com/insights/authors/dennisvanpuyvelde/2013/02/20/update-co2-capture-cement-production
Isn’t CO2 released from limestone also a release of carbon which was sequestered millions of years ago ?
When CO2 from cement production is captured, stored in CCS systems or compressed and sold as industrial CO2 in cylinders (after drying etc) for drinks carbonation it is to my mind the same ‘old’ CO2 which is released as we get when we burn fossil fuels
From limestone, yes, it thankfully adds to the carbon in the short term carbon cycle.
I must admit, I was thinking fermented beverages.. 🙂
It is a “dinner” thread after all, and who drinks soft drinks at dinner 😉
“Me being polite to you for a change.”
Pity you had to add that , eh ?
First time you have said something half sensible.
Thought I’d give you the benefit of the doubt.
I was wrong.
I remember training my first puppy. It took a long time.
ps, I doubt very much that the average greenie knows that their plastic bottles, and basically everything that makes modern day civilisation, is derived or manufactured from oil, gas or coal.
I think the amount of CO2 in a bottle of soda is around the same as two or 3 exhalations of your breath. You probably make more CO2 from metabolizing the sugar in the soda than there is in the CO2 itself.
But CO2 from breath is ORGANIC! CO2 from cement industry is a CHEMICAL!
(Add suitable extremist whine to the voice when reading that.)
I’d like some cheese to go with my whine.
Sorry no cheese just whine. The FDA has decided cheese is bad for you.
Then they came for the Roquefort
https://youtu.be/BHXndM_WBUE
just whine
Well, we know that the omniscient Food and BigPharma Administration know exzachary what is best for us. And, the harmless flora in the soon-to-be-banned Roquefort cheese very likely exude carbon dioxide, anyway. So with this cheesy sacrifice, we’ll all probably be lessening our ‘carbon footprint’ and helping out Mama Gaia. 😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=86&v=hugHT9hrBLY
Years ago I was up in the northern range of the Apennine mountains hiding out in a village that American soldiers hadn’t been in since WW II. We hid out in a Chianti wine warehouse that wasn’t in use at the time but had 4′ tall chianti bottles in it that gave it the smell of old wine.
When our notional war was over the village put on a real feast for our split team of US SF and Italian SF (Incursori) from the 9th Folgore out of Vincenza. (BTW Wikipedia has their description of Italian SF kinda scrambled up from the way I remember it. I worked with the Italian SF several times).
Our resupply drop had failed a couple weeks before because the Italian Alpini that were the opposing force were on our DZ. So we had been on no rations for a few days and short rations for some time eating one meal of Italian Army rations (which contained cognac btw) per day for about a week after that. Heavy work and sleep deprivation combined with a relatively low calorie intake had us pretty hungry for a good meal of real food by the time it was over.
Those Italians in that village put on quite a meal for us the night before we left. Eight courses plus 3 courses of drinks by candle light in a full formal setting. Several of us Americans, including me, lost that great dinner within an hour after consumption. All that rich food was just too much for us but the Italians on the team seemed to have no problem.
My uncle was in the Pacific theater (Airforce belly gunner) during WWII. He was on K rations for so long he could not eat normal food when he was mustered out. He ended up gulping vitamin pills while slowly getting his stomach and intestines back into shape to deal with normal food.
He was told his problem was due to a “shrinken” stomach but I wonder how much of his problem was also due to not having the correct gut bacteria.
That BTW is one of the major problems with the idiocy of the FDA. We need doses of good bacteria and cheese is a great source.
I bet your hunch about lack of gut flora is spot-on.
This stuff sure seems to be helping my pup get over her bout with the flu.
https://www.purinaveterinarydiets.com/pet-food-nutrition/canine/products/fortiflora
For those that never really looked into what “K” rations were and are curious. Here you go: http://www.usarmymodels.com/ARTICLES/Rations/krations.html
They were basically combat survival food.
The next step up were “C” rations. Much better for long term substance. http://olive-drab.com/od_rations_c.php
I was in while C rations were still issued but the contents had changed a little by that time and they contained no cigarettes. Personally, I had no problem with them and some of the meals weren’t bad at all. But then again I even liked the scrambled eggs with ham that most others turned their nose up at. The biggest problem with C rations in my job was they were just too damned heavy. Anything in a can was too heavy and used too much space when you were going to be lugging it around in a rucksack for days or weeks on end.
So, for a time when I was on a team, we were issued LRP rations for the field. Invented for Long Range Recon Patrols during Vietnam and modernized in the mid 70s. Being freeze dried food, they were light but still too bulky. The meals though, when you could heat water up to reconstitute them, were very good.
Then along came the 1st generation of MRE (Meal Ready to Eat). Not bad, except the corn flake bars which were terrible, but still too bulky for us. I was in when the next two new generations of those meals were issued and each new gen was better than that last. We stripped them down and supplemented them with our own store bought trail food. I could carry a weeks worth of food. One MRE meal a day stripped of all the non essentials and packed into a stuff bag about 8″ deep x 6″ in diameter. This would be supplemented with high energy pemmican and chocolate survival bars and jerky, a portion of which was kept in the survival portion of the rucksack that would stay with us even if we had to drop our ruck, or in a pocket for quick and easy access.
There is an art to living out of a rucksack for long periods of time that one must master. The more times you do it, the better you are at it as you learn what works and what doesn’t by your own experience and the knowledge you gain from others. For those in the military which have dismounted patrolling as a large part of their jobs it is a whole different ball game compared to some mechanized troop or even most civilian backpackers because your also carrying all your weapons, ammo, demo, commo, medical supplies, etc.
The Obama’s Emergency ration
http://www.wtfaz.com/wp-content/uploads/051710_Canned_Unicorn_Meat_1.jpg
And of course there are those who just can’t take a joke. Cease-and-Desist lawsuit in 2010.
You just cant make this stuff up.
But I ordered stuffed roasted spotted owl!!!!
Sorry, but this is all we could whip up in a hurry…
http://www.foresthistory.org/images/blog/spottedowlhelper_1.jpg
Looks good.
I prefer to eat horse than fowl but it’s easier to catch a bird sometimes !