There has been a huge increase in the amount of old, thick Arctic sea ice over the last three years. This is due to a change in winter winds, which is now preserving the ice rather than pushing it out into the North Atlantic.
If this trend continues, the ice will be back to 1980’s levels within about five years.
Climate criminals will not report this, because it is their job to create propaganda for the White House – not discuss facts.
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Great visual depiction of accumulation of old, think sea ice.
Thank you, Steven, for keeping us aware of reality before propaganda artists change it.
What’s that I hear off in the distance… could it be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
If this trend continues for five years,,, it could be the biggest freeze over in a hundred years…
The Arctic cooling, is in effect trailing other regions. I believe the coming Winters will be much longer & severe than “what people will be prepared for”,,, and we know why; it ain’t AGW !!
I find it very telling that Cryosphere can’t (won’t) see the ice in southeast Hudson Bay which is the highest the Capt of the CCGS Amundsen ice breaker has seen it in 20 years. Yesterday I eyeballed the ice (using Can Ice Services products) at about 200,000 sq km higher than cryosphere is reporting and then wondered if the climate crooks are doing the same throughout the arctic …. I know where I would place my bet on that question if a wager were available!!
The climate crooks have all ice areas at or below normal as they polish the turd of climate change prior to the Paris fuster cluck.
Just wait, the clowns continue to expand their influence and reach. I guarantee the goal is to control all Climate/weather related data.
Look at the difference between the NSIDC and DMI graphs, also. I find myself wondering if NSIDC is now playing numbers games instead of showing and reporting real numbers. The Canadian map does show a much larger patch of ice in Hudson Bay than the NSIDC display. I really, really, don’t trust any output from the U.S. government any more. Of course, I haven’t had any trust that the government could do any job right for decades. Real world data can do that to you.
Great blog for links to many ice mapping sources it will be fun to watch the transits this year. http://northwestpassage2015.blogspot.com/
The bottom-melt is about to kick in. Stay tuned.
No it isn’t
Ha, cfgjd, the water is COLD up there right now! The AMO is obviously changing over to it’s cold phase.
http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/contour/global_small.cf.gif
Bottom melt kicked in ages ago. This is one of the buoys that hasn’t melted out completely yet:
http://imb.erdc.dren.mil/irid_data/2014I_thick.png
hard to tell how much though jim, when every single man made object in arctic creates a little melt pond all of its own.
When someone states, “This is one of the buoys that hasn’t melted out completely yet”, there is no mention of how many have melted out completely, and how many haven’t. The wording is basically devoid of meaningful substance, though perhaps there is a limp attempt to imply something, and create spineless insinuation and/or innuendo.
In terms of hard facts about Mass Balance Buoys, two separated from their ice and drifted independently, one is about to, and five sit in melt-water pools atop ice which hasn’t yet cracked up.
Buoy 2015A was placed on ice close to the Alaskan shore that always melts. Once the ice melted the buoy drifted west along the shore, further and further out to sea, and then abruptly stopped reporting on July 13. It may have been retrieved, as these things are expensive, or it may have been crushed between bergs. Just because a buoy has “melted out completely” doesn’t mean all the ice has melted; it only means the buoy is floating midst ice rather than seated atop ice.
Buoy 2015B was placed where ice usually cracks up, and indeed gave us excellent pictures of how thick ice cracks up, before its camera failed (or was retrieved). The buoy itself is still reporting, likely from midst ice-choked waters. Just because a buoy is in an area of 50% ice and 50% open water doesn’t mean you could easily find your way through all the ice if you paddled a boat.
Buoy 2015E was placed near the edge of the ice heading down into Fram Strait to begin with, and reported the thickness of the ice it was on for a surprising time, considering it was in a high-risk situation to begin with. Recently it reported the ice was a negative amount thick, (!), so your guess is as good as mine, concerning whether it is still on ice or drifting free.
Of the five other buoys, I thought 2014G had moved by spring into a relatively high risk area, but it has since drifted north and may actually move out of the area liable to see ice break up. 2014I is in a relatively low risk area, but a active lead has opened near it, increasing the risk.
In other words, each buoy has its own story, and a sort of life-expectancy dependent on where it was placed. To make vague and general statements about “the melt” without mentioning the specifics about a buoy tends to be more along the lines of misinformation than to be accurate reporting.
No sooner did I post the above than the ice around both 2014G and 2014I started to show signs of the summer break-up. Typical. But the gist of my comment still stands. Each buoy has its own unique history and environment.
I would like to see a real time high resolution visual image.
Seeing is believing. Why no visible satellite pics of the Arctic?
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
Compare past dates with current to your hearts content.
The Beaufort Sea:
http://greatwhitecon.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Beaufort-Terra-20150727.jpg
Yeah, try and sail a boat through that mess !
Would need to be a ship of TURKEYS !!!
Have you applied yet, Jimmbo?
You do know that during the first 2/3 of the Holocene, the Arctic was basically ice free for all but the winter, don’t you Jimmbo ?
Caleb was right when he said of your posts..
“a limp attempt to imply something, and create spineless insinuation and/or innuendo. “
The ice under the North Pole Camera has only just started to melt. (This buoy also sits in its self-created melt-water pool.)
http://imb.erdc.dren.mil/irid_data/2015D_thick.png
https://sunriseswansong.wordpress.com/2015/07/26/aerctic-sea-ice-i-thought-the-thaw-was-pretty-flat/
Northern Hudson Bay:
http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/prods/WIS31CT/20150727180000_WIS31CT_0008387714.gif
Southern Hudson Bay:
http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/prods/WIS30CT/20150727180000_WIS30CT_0008387721.gif
Has Hudson Bay ice ever not completely melted in recorded history?
Tony … don’t u realize that you have now tipped Reggie off and he will make a beeline to the multi year ice you are highlighting with his MEGA (or is it a GIGA) blow torch and melt it all in a blink?
The ice can’t be thicker,
Al said it would go,
No more cold winters,
We wouldn’t have snow;
So these real world observations
We must learn to ignore,
We can’t have inconvenient truths
That challenge Al Gore.
http://rhymeafterrhyme.net/remember-the-nineties-whatever-happened-to-global-warming/
I really like this one. Thanks for your poesy. You have the knack!
US Navy maps give a totally different picture. This year ice is thinner than 2012.
http://s15.postimg.org/qy147mcjf/Arctic.gif
Extent is also almost as low.
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/old_icecover.uk.php
Tonto says, “Looks like you got old style masked data, Kee-Mo Sah-Bee.”
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/old_icecover.uk.php
Please notice, that the sea ice extent in this plot is calculated with the coastal zones masked out. To see the absolute extent, go to
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover.uk.php
The plot above replaces an earlier sea ice extent plot, that was based on data with the coastal zones masked out. This coastal mask implied that the previous sea ice extent estimates were underestimated. The new plot displays absolute sea ice extent estimates. The old plot can still be viewed here for a while.
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/icecover/icecover_current_new.pnghttp://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/icecover/icecover_current_new.png
There is something about the Navy’s data that smells of a serious glitch. For example, it has been saying there is less than 0.5 meters of ice in Hudson Bay for around a month now. If the ice was that thin they wouldn’t need an icebreaker to deliver heating oil to the small Quebec communities by the bay, and also it would swiftly melt away. In fact the NRL (Navy Research Lab) maps end with an extended forecast, and for weeks now the “concentration map” has been showing the ice would be gone in five days, which of course it never is, but you can’t blame the concentration map’s program if you are feeding information into it which states there is only a foot of ice, or less. Conclusion: We are dealing with a glitch. (Perhaps intentional, or perhaps unintentional.)
Caleb,
Has there been any year that you are aware of when Hudson Bay ice never entirely melted out?
Andy
Many years there are stray icebergs roaming about all summer, but 1982 is the last time the all-summer ice extent was enough to be noted in the Hudson Bay extent cryosphere graph.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/recent365.anom.region.13.html
In the old days the Hudson Bay fur trading bases used to have to go through two years without supplies every now and again because the summer re-supply ship couldn’t make it.
By the way, here’s a picture of the “thin ice” on Hudson Bay. (The ice breaker is helping the oil tanker get next winter’s hearing oil to a coastal community before the refreeze sets in.)
https://sunriseswansong.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/hudson-july-28-3-ccgs-pierre-radisson-in-sea-ice.jpg
Yes Caleb, that is not thin Ice as you exposed… probably intentionally misleading & now negligent to those Icebreaking the Bay. Looks like Winter never left the region.
i believe there has been a problem with that model (it is a model, there are very few physical measurements taken of the multi year ice in the cab. even then thickness does not tell the whole story as density has a major effect on melt rate)this melt season and the people responsible are working on it .if not,it sure looks like it. jim hunt may be able to clarify.
I have some grave doubts that large amounts of ice is a good thing, in any way.
But I know/have known that the alarmist warmistas are/were full of crap.
It seems like it will take an actual catastrophe…global cooling…to put an end to the jackass shenanigans that are being foisted on the world.
One very big question is, will the scientific establishment come to their senses before all credibility is lost in a way which will be difficult to ever repair.
i share your concern menicholas . cold is far harder to deal with than heat,and here in the uk the milder winters during the warm phase of the amo have lulled our useless politicians into wasting hard earned taxpayer money on green subsidies instead of viable energy supplies that will be needed the first cold winter we get.
we got off lightly last winter, fingers crossed this winter will again be mild, but i would not bet money on it.
Exactly, money has been misappropriated & spent supporting the wrong cause.
Can you link to the winter winds having made more old thick ice?
Scientists are saying it is more due to cooler summer temps recently
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33594654
“”We looked at various climate forcing factors, we looked at the snow loading, we looked at wind convergence and the melt season length of the previous summer,” lead author Rachel Tilling, from University College London, told BBC News. “We found that the highest correlation by far was with the melt season length – and over the summer of 2013”
I guess we will see in about 5 years what it is like then, will be interesting.
Andy
Haven’t you people learned anything?
Hot weather is climate.
Cold weather is just weather.
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From the department of “Settled Science” :
Arctic sea ice increasing, when the white house and 97% of climate ‘experts’ told us summer sea ice would all be gone by now.
The ‘Global Warming’ scam is out of control.