Defeating Censorship

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12 Responses to Defeating Censorship

  1. toorightmate says:

    Settle down – comrade.

  2. Dave N says:

    Notice no response to the debate with Moore option.

    They appear to be just taking well-known alarmist and propagandist (sadly Australian, too) Ketan Joshi’s (who just spews a bunch of strawman arguments in order to claim that the film is “inaccurate”) word for it.

  3. MrGrimNasty says:

    If it contains misinformation affected parties should sue, or at least put up a list of corrections for consideration.

    The courts decided Al Gore’s first film contained misinformation.

    But how times changed. If teachers failed to correct some of Gore’s lies they risked being guilty of indoctrination – yet a few years on they are brainwashing schoolkids with far more blatant misinformation and no one protests, because it has been made poitically incorrect to dispute the lies.

  4. Anon says:

    I have seen the argument that some of the information in the film is 10 to 15 years old, and that the technology has improved now. Also, that Bill McKibben has reversed his position on Biomass after seeing the harm that it was doing.

    How is this acceptable to anyone?

    1] What this means is that 10 – 15 years ago they launched the Green Energy Movement on bogus technology and claims. (but the people should have confidence in us now)

    2] Now that all the trees and forests are gone, Bill McKibben (who made his name and fortune on it) is sorry. ooops!

    What would be the reaction of these same environmentalists, if Exxon-Mobile made a claim that it had a 100% secure off-shore drilling technology and subsequently suffered a catastrophic oil spill? Ooops!, Exxon’s heart was in the right place, and mistakes happen, and we can’t wait to see what their next project will be!!!

    I suppose that will be the result when the Arctic really freezes over again, back to the 1970s levels —> ooops, sorry about the alarm and hysteria, but our heart was in the right place?

  5. Debbi Main says:

    Has Michael Moore nailed his theses to Church of Green Energy’s door ? I look forward to the presentation of facts from all view points on a podcast in the near future.


    I saw the film last night, it’s there. Don’t miss it. Even if I don’t buy the whole story of the documentary the facts it exposes are shocking and are what were expected. There is no misinformation the disasters are there for everybody to see. Abandoned solar and wind projects littering the countryside and deserts after a few years of operation is what was expected from every one of this much publicized and cherished but inefficient endeavors. After the political aim is gained and the delusion is completed, politicos and companies can forget about them, after all there is always a natural gas plant backup providing the electricity everybody needed.

  7. Jessica says:

    Why are we all so outraged by the hanky-panky of socialists? Obscurantism is what they do, including agitprop, censorship and disinformation.

  8. Gamecock says:

    A Michael Moore movie has misinformation in it?

    That’s crazy talk!

  9. Bill says:

    This film is NOT by Michael Moore, he doesn’t appear in it all. It was written, directed and produced by Jeff Gibbs. Moore bankrolled it and distributed it.

    It’s really a pretty good documentary film, with interesting interviews, reasonable production values and lots of useful information. I enjoyed it, and I recommend it, especially if you enjoy watching professional environmental nerd sellouts get their comeuppance.

    The essential points made by the film are that, 1) if you scale up solar and wind power to a national level, you’ll see industrial capitalism at its worst. You’ll wind up thinking “Well, maybe it would be less damaging to just have some nice natural gas power plants, and hopefully some nuclear plants.” And 2) “biomass” means burning your forests (not to mention tire chips and creosote railroad ties), and it simply won’t scale. It just won’t. Trees don’t grow fast enough, and besides, it takes a lot of diesel to cut, transport and chip them.

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