Guardian : Failure Of Wind And Solar Proves We Need More Wind And Solar

Australia was the first casualty of the big blackout lie blaming wind power – the US could be next | Ketan Joshi | Environment | The Guardian

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18 Responses to Guardian : Failure Of Wind And Solar Proves We Need More Wind And Solar

  1. arn says:

    A quote (wrongly) attributed to Einstein says
    “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”

    In this case it is not insanity but destruction on purpose where methods which
    have been proven to be the worst of all(green new deal,illegal immigration,centralised EU power grab) are pushed being further and futher on purpose.

  2. oeman 50 says:

    I ran across an article in my news feed this morning that said the “recent unpleasantness” in Texas makes the sate ripe for increased household installation of solar. Due to the precipitation, solar in Texas during the freeze was 1-5% of its nominal capacity. So the answer is to put up even more solar that doesn’t work? What planet are these people from?

  3. David says:

    Just as the Federal Reserve consistently proves that more debt is needed to make up for the failures of previous debt, so can we expect the Biden-Harris (or is it Harris-Biden) administration to do the same with its Green No Deal, doubling down on new wind and solar “farms” (which presumably grow panels and turbines, respectively) to do what their older wind and solar “farms” failed to do: replace reliable, affordable fossil fuels with the reliable, affordable “renewables.”

    But insanity is as insanity does, of course, and there won’t be an end to it until enough people have managed to do what Charles MacKay long ago said they must:

    “Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.”

    • Charles Straw says:

      McKay’s book (Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds) is always within reaching distance in our house…in fact I was leafing through it again the other night

      There are a couple of great free downloadable versions of it online

      Written in 1841, it perfectly explains what we’ve been going through….basically that the fragile human mind will accept anything if it’s repeated often enough…and McKay is an entertaining writer

  4. Rockwood says:

    All I can say is “holy fuck”.

  5. LKJDAN says:

    That was not the title. Still you put words in other peoples mouth not producing anything original or intelligent. Even fossil fuel power plants failed in Texas. Did your channel speak about that?

    • Eric Hatfield says:

      The issue isn’t whether fossil fuel sources were perfect. The weren’t. There were failures there too. The critical issue is whether the green sources (wind and solar) performed as well as the fossil fuels sources did. They didn’t. So any claim that Texas should go ‘more green’ to solve the problem (like Sen Schumer claimed) is totally bogus. If Texas had a greater percentage of their power source being ‘green’, their power shortages would have been worse because those failed by a greater percentage.

      Another critical lesson that needs to be learned here (and I hope we can agree on this) is whatever energy source you choose to use, it needs to be reliable and robust. It needs to be available when needed most. I’m an ‘all of the above’ guy for power sources and Texas is a good area for wind and solar. Obviously if wind and solar are going to be more useful when needed most, there needs to be more engineering work done so panels can remain cleared of snow (or dust) and wind turbans will have to be winterized to a greater extent than present so these sources will be there. For fossil fuels maybe you don’t schedule maintenance during the winter and summer in case you do get extreme heat or cold. Expect more disruption transporting fuels during the winter time and plan accordingly.

      Make no mistake about it. Without proper planning and development the more ‘green’ we go, the worse the power problems will be in the US. Texas tried to go ‘green’ and got screwed.

    • Eric says:

      You are missing the point. While it is true that there were failures in both green and fossil fuel power production, the percentage outage of the renewable energy was much higher than the other methods. So if a “new green deal” is implemented, with greater reliance on wind and solar, this latest weather incident would be greatly magnified. In the end, even with the fossil fuel outages, they still “mostly” worked, while the wind and solar “mostly didn’t” work.

    • arn says:

      Trying to solve a problem by asking for a doubling and trippling of the method that caused the problem – a method that doesnt work at all as soon
      is the issue here.
      Not some rhetorics.

    • David A says:

      LK says “Even fossil fuel power plants failed in Texas”
      Natural Gas prevented a far worse tragedy…
      https://i.postimg.cc/tTc1tYnV/texas-GAS-saves-the-day.png

  6. Charles Straw says:

    Tony,

    I think the real solution to this problem can be found in the strict Covid lockdown model…governments need to mandate sunglasses and bathing suits in the summer and warm hats and coats in the winter. The mandated wearing of these items would bring our climate to a pleasant state of temperature equilibrium

    Additional summer items like lemonade and suntan lotion could supplement mandates – and hot chocolate and warm slippers could also be mandated during chilly winter months

  7. Robert Austin says:

    The combo of more solar and wind along with the demise of coal fired and nuclear energy results in an unstable and unreliable electrical power distribution system. It is physics and engineering. No amount of wishful thinking will change nature. Yes, the Texas failure was more complex than just a failure of renewables. But the Texas failure was compounded by the mindset that renewables will supersede fossil fuels and that the legacy power system is obsolete and can be left to decay in anticipation of the glorious triumph of renewables.

    • Douglas Hoyt says:

      I think some greenie bureaucrat mandated that the pumps for the natural gas lines be electric motors rather than the traditional diesel motors. The electricity went off and then the natural gas could not be supplied to some of the power stations. Less power from the natural gas power plants and little power from windmills and you have a problem. But the problem in both cases arose from green mandates.

      • David A says:

        Also a significant portion of NG was diverted to heating homes.
        Winterization was not a major factor in the reduction of NG tremendous increase made necessary by the wind failure. Winterization would not have helped Texas wind farms, as wind mills must stop to de-ice and windmills draw about 4kw when stopped, much more when de-iceing.
        Also the wind barely blew for several of the most critical hours where the wind almost stopped, then if equipped to winterize, wind would have been a net negative at the worst time in the crisis.

  8. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Well they’re consistent, since every time socialism fails they say more socialism will fix everything.

    Aztecs were good at this too. When they cut out a heart and didn’t get better weather they decided cutting out more hearts would work next time.

    Eventually you run out of hearts/virgins/other-people’s-money without actually ever changing the weather. But they never learn.

  9. rah says:

    Well at least Australia pretty much told Kerry to shove it where the sun doesn’t shine when he showed up there telling them they should stop their coal exports.

  10. -Beowolf- says:

    Remember the Soviet Union: “de ja vu”
    Problem: Socialism does not work? Solution: More socialism! Result: Collapse & Bankrupt
    Problem: Green energy does not work? Solution: More green energy” Result: the same

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