Pavlov’s Humans

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6 Responses to Pavlov’s Humans

  1. arn says:

    I remember reading about another experiment with apes.
    They put a ladder in the room and on top of the ladder
    bananas.
    Whenever an ape tried to climb up the ladder to get a banana the ape
    it was instantly sprayed with cool water.But not just this ape but the whole group( collective punishment – similar to the experiment when a group of humans voted for the wrong guy and were sprayed with words).

    The apes stopped trying to get to the bananas ; and not just that.Whenever a hungry ape tried to climb the ladder they were attacked by the rest of the group
    (damn vax deniers) .

    After a while a slow replacement started.
    They removed one ape after another from the original group and replaced them with new apes.
    Every new ape tried,of course, to get the bananas – and was attacked by the group.
    Eventually all original apes were replaced by new apes,who never were sprayed with cool water, yet those apes kept attacking ape members that tried to get to the bananas,
    though not a single of the new apes experienced a punishment.
    (a similar experiment is happening in several countries right now ,where intergenerational conditioning is replacing traditional and natural behavior with fear )

    • Timo, Not That One says:

      I keep reading Tony’s posts here.
      Whenever I hear from somebody else about how we just had the hottest, coldest, wettest, driest, or mildest day, week, month, year, century, or millennium, I unconsciously roll my eyes.

    • Lynn Comstock says:

      Thanks for the information about the group behavior conditioning of apes. Unfortunately human behavior is conditioned likewise to be “normal”, whatever that means. Normal human goodness is far short of real goodness. History of the 20th century is replete with proof of human submission to evil.

  2. GWS says:

    A man with a hammer sees all problems as nails that need to be pounded flat.
    To dims mankind is an errant nail still sticking up.

  3. Lynne Balzer says:

    It would be interesting to know what time of year those two photos of the Arctic from 1917 and in 2020 were taken. There is tremendous seasonal variation in the Arctic. Is it possible that one was taken in winter and the other in summer?

    • Lynn Comstock says:

      There is an Atlantic circulation pattern that is very influential in the seaside melting of glaciers in Greenland. When the water is warmer, the warmer water undercuts the glaciers that extent into the sea and the calving increases.
      Glacial advance is powered by the inland pileup of accumulated snow which also varies from year to year and the effects are famously slow to be evident at the glacial edge.

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