Hansen says it is already too late to do anything.
James Hansen
guardian.co.uk, Monday 23 June 2008 20.00 BSTThe difference is that now we have used up all slack in the schedule for actions needed to defuse the global warming time bomb. The next president and Congress must define a course next year (2009) in which the United States exerts leadership commensurate with our responsibility for the present dangerous situation.
Otherwise it will become impractical to constrain atmospheric carbon dioxide, the greenhouse gas produced in burning fossil fuels, to a level that prevents the climate system from passing tipping points that lead to disastrous climate changes that spiral dynamically out of humanity’s control.
It is too late to save skiing, so don’t worry about it and head to Tahoe for record summer snow. On the way back you can stop at Napa for some doomed wine pressed from their record grape harvest.
Utter incomprehension.
When a ‘tipping point’ occurs, the ‘bottom’ won’t be reached instantly or even within a few years. It’ll be reached whenever reality wants it to happen.
Considering how fast things have been changing it could be decades, under worse case scenarios before snow stops falling anywhere but the Antarctic, the tallest mountains and occasionally the higher latitudes.
Let us know when you start sensing it. Otherwise just blow away
That’s like a blind man asking when the next rainbow appears.
Sorry did not know other than being mentally challanbged you were also visually challanged. And I was so looking forward to your keen detection capabilities.
Global warming makes more snow, not less.
A)Rain cycle:
1. Ocean water evaporates.
2. Vapor goes up, up, up and becomes…clouds.
3. Clouds rain down back into the ocean.
4. Or land; which then goes into creeks, rivers, bigger rivers that empty into oceans or lakes.
5. Clouds snow down into the land; which lingers for a while. Then it goes back to the ocean or lakes through the above mentioned route.
6. Round and round the merry go round.
B)Global Warming enhanced rain cycle:
1. Warmer water evaporates more.
2. Which means more precipitation in the form of rain or snow.
3. Until it finally gets to warm for snow to fall.
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Now children, our spiritual lesson for today comes from Matthew chapter 7 verse 6:
“Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.”
IWB is this peer reviewed? Or at you intellect level you are peerless?
Ah, the fabulous tipping point(s), the deus ex machina of the desperate warmist confronted by uncooperative climate data. Remember when CO2 was the dominant climate forcing factor? Now the CO2 induced CAGW is allegedly still there but hidden by the lack of solar activity and/or increasing Chinese aerosol emissions. Just how long can Ill Wind and friends string out the CAGW narrative against the accumulating empirical climate data supporting the null hypothesis, and by that I mean that is the real null hypothesis, not Kevin Trenberth’s Frankenstein remake of the null hypothesis.
You wouldn’t recognize empirical evidence if it came up to you and bit you in the nuts.
Ill wind blowhard comes back with a stunning riposte. We cower before the onslaught of your climate erudition, sir/madam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITR_0ELYX88
So why are we still discussing carbon taxes? And NASA, I’ve got a better idea for cutbacks…
We may have reached a tipping point, but it tipped the “wrong” way-toward record snowfall and bumper crops, which is not exactly what Hansen had in mind.
Is that your version of warm/cold?
If we passed the tipping point what is the purpose for more research. Close down all climate research funding.
Hansen should first do some whitewater rafting down to Lake Powell so he can document any mud cracks they can find. Then shake his fists at the coal plant before returning over the snow packed Rockies.
“Hansen should first do some whitewater rafting down to Lake Powell so he can document any mud cracks they can find. Then shake his fists at the coal plant before returning over the snow packed Rockies.”
Another Dunce capped one.
1. The reason for increased snow/rain has been explained.
2. You can take a look at an anomaly chart for May.
3. You can shake your fist at this: :-0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vQMuwRjI6s&feature=player_embedded#at=52
DUDE, LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE! 🙂
1. The reason for increased snow/rain has been explained.
———–Only in your mind.
2. You can take a look at an anomaly chart for May.
———–would that be climate or weather ?
3. You can shake your fist at this: :-0
———-Of course duststorms . Often caused by an overabundance of water
in the atmosphere.
But at least we have a new phenomenon to gawk at.
Rain/Dust
Waiting for Duncy-man to come and blow you away with his impeccable illogic, as to why Hansen never said that.
James Hansen media quotes: ravings of a madman. It is beyond me how anyone takes him seriously.
There has been a series of these false prophets profiting off doom-saying aided and abetted by MSM. Going back to the ’70s it was the impending ice age, (caused of course by evil mankind and his particulate pollution) and Paul Erlich’s population theories of doom to name just a couple.
Don’t get me wrong, man-made air and water pollution was (and still is in many places) a real problem. I remember living in Los Angeles in the ’50s through the ’70 and I remember how bad the air quality was and I remember how it improved over time as pollution controls were implemented.
Climate tipping points? Rubbish. Anyone can make unsubstantiated claims, baseless assertions backed by zero empirical evidence about future climate – just gaze into the impenetrable fog of the unknowable future through the lens of computer-simulations and say anything you like.
And since this is all just made up drivel, be sure you memorize and follow this script:
* Cooling/Warming/Population/Rape of the Planet – Mankind’s fault – get this and get it good; it is Mankind’s fault.
* It’s terrible now; it’s going to get unimaginably worse – in fact – worse than we thought.
* Act now. This is a limited offer. A good scare only lasts 10-20 years so we have to act NOW.
* There may be no evidence now of the terrors to come. But when they come, it will all happen at once. Tipping points are coming! Barbarians swarming over the walls; the pounding hoof-beats of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse and by the time you hear them it’s too late to run.
This whole man-made global warming thingy is so silly it’s actually kind of fun.
“There may be no evidence now of the terrors to come.”
It’s been there all along, you’re just to morose to notice.
“But when they come, it will all happen at once..”
Said who? Another typical misrepresentation by those who lack the ability to listen. Nothing has been said about it’s happening “all at once”. Quite the contrary; it won’t happen all at once. It will continue to get worse throughout the years.
“Tipping points are coming!”
Certain tipping points have already occured.
“Barbarians swarming over the walls;… “
Conservatives have been here for a while.
“…the pounding hoof-beats of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse and by the time you hear them it’s too late to run.”
You’re too blind and deaf to either see those horsies or hear their hoofbeats.
http://toryaardvark.com/2011/02/24/climate-change-meet-attila-the-huhnatic/
Ill Wind,
Blah blah blah blah….
Unfounded pointless assertions all. Troll dreck.
Make a cogent argument. If you can.
“Make a cogent argument. If you can.”
I have been making cogent arguments only to have responses like; “You’re a maroon, You’re a Loon, etc. Not to mention the ridiculous red baiting.
So, the only way you can respond to such ‘cogent’ counter arguments, is by mixing my cogent arguments with cogent sarcasm.
What else do you expect when you’re always taunting and insulting all the AGWs that come on this site?
Ill wind, If Marxists are real then red baiting might be a good idea, because they’ve proven to be very dangerous in the past and look to be just as dangerous today.
“What’s amazing about this stuff – and believe me, there’s plenty more where this came from – is the unblushing shamelessness with which it advocates this economic insanity. Here is the world’s most powerful intergovernmental institution essentially arguing for the destruction of the global economy, enforced rationing, Marxist wealth redistribution, greater regulation, the erosion of property rights and global governance by a new world order of technocrats and bureacrats. And being so upfront about it they actually issue press releases, telling us what they’re planning to do and encouraging us to write about it.”
Read the whole thing:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100095817/un-reveals-its-master-plan-for-destruction-of-global-economy/
Nothing wrong with “red baiting” if it’s accurate.
If all “reds” were as harmless and ineffectual as I suppose you are there would be no point to it. But one of them, Stalin, for example, killed 10,000,000 Ukranians with nary a peep from the New York Times’ useful idiots. In fact one of their idiots, Walter Duranty, got a Pulitzer for lying about conditions in the Soviet Union.
“There is no famine or actual starvation nor is there likely to be.”
–New York Times, Nov. 15, 1931, page 1
“Any report of a famine in Russia is today an exaggeration or malignant propaganda.”
–New York Times, August 23, 1933
“Enemies and foreign critics can say what they please. Weaklings and despondents at home may groan under the burden, but the youth and strength of the Russian people is essentially at one with the Kremlin’s program, believes it worthwhile and supports it, however hard be the sledding.”
–New York Times, December 9, 1932, page 6
“You can’t make an omelet without breaking eggs.”
The NYT has never owned up to this.
Then quit talking down with obvious stuff like heat causes water to evaporate and come down as rain. We all know that, show us data, that proves that such a process is significant enough to be the causation of AGW otherwise it is just coffee house banter.