The President’s science advisor John Holdren speculated last year on the possibility of an ice free winter in the Arctic.
…if you lose the summer sea ice, there are phenomena that could lead you not so very long thereafter to lose the winter sea ice as well. And if you lose that sea ice year round, it’s going to mean drastic climatic change all over the hemisphere. – John Holdren, 2009
Let’s see how that is doing.
Enough ice to cover more than 150,000 Manhattans.
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_daily_extent.png
He needs to change the bird species whose entrails he examines for making forecasts. First, he needs to find out which bird species Dr. Paul Ehrlich is using, to make sure he uses a different one, else he ends up making the same, always wrong forecasts.
I suggest Turkey Vulture innards, just don’t be in the room…
What a Moron.
It is physically impossible (given the continental layout around the arctic circle) not to have sea ice when there is no sunlight for at least 3 months, unless the Earth heats up by an amount that is magnitudes greater than the AGW alarmists even propose.
🙂
Kinda reminds me of what R. Gates says about the ice. He’s stated several times that the minima will get later and later into September and then likely go into October. He was guessing a late September minimum this year and I think he even said an early October min wouldn’t surprise him.
Lets see, JAXA Oct 1 value = 5596250 km^2. If he wants to use that, fine by me. 🙂
Even with the very unfavorable weather behavior in 2005 and 2007, they had their minima on the 22nd and 24th, respectively. And the freeze up is so rapid after that, as they both gained between 400k and 500k km^2 by Oct 1. I just don’t see the minima getting that late regularly unless there is some ridiculously unquestionable GW going on. Once it gets permadark up there, it just gets too cold too fast. If the ice decline continues, the region of melt with just get less and less sun earlier and earlier too.
Some of R. Gates comments were quite reasonable, but IMO that line of thought was just out there.
-Scott
Scott says:
October 16, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Kinda reminds me of what R. Gates says about the ice. He’s stated several times that the minima will get later and later into September and then likely go into October.
Then into November, then December, pretty soon it will be year round.
Ahh, the good ole days of all those loooong RGates comments.
;o)