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I have seen sustained in the upper 40’s to low 50’s by me. Very little rain (thankfully), but it is windier than Irene. The storm surge has been impressive. If there is damage here is going to be because of the surge.
Sandy is dying, good riddance.
Plum Island, New York had an 84 MPH wind gust, you don’t see a wind gust like that with only 45 MPH sustained winds.
In Colorado we get 95 MPH wind gusts with 35 MPH sustained.
I highly doubt that you can get 95 MPH wind gusts from 35 MPH sustained winds.
http://www.ucar.edu/communications/factsheets/winds.html
Yes, I see that your winds become very strong due to the fact that they are coming down the mountains of the Rockies. However, we are dealing with lower elevation areas near the coastline, with the nearest mountains over a hundred miles away, so the same dynamics are not involved. You’re trying to compare apples to oranges.
Eatons Neck, NY reported a wind gust of 83 MPH, the sustained winds are definitely higher than 45 mph
Find a sustained hurricane force wind at the surface. You argue about this over every tropical storm and never produce any data to back up your claims.
Check the data from the buoys (http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/). Looking at the historical data it looks like a tropical storm, and getting impressive wind gusts, but, not seeing anything approaching hurricane speeds. Station CMAN4 (http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=cman4) which is directly in the path and near the center at this time showed it’s highest windspeed of 52.1 knots at 8pm. That’s just below 60mph.
I’m not arguing that this has hurricane force winds Steve, I’m arguing why you would say the winds are only 45 MPH, when wind gusts have been reported well over 80 MPH, which would support winds in excess of 45 MPH.
Steve, you always downplay every natural disaster because you are trying to counteract the idiots on the AGW side who blame everything on AGW and hype most natural disasters. This is understandable, but you have to let these people be idiots because they will not stop this rhetoric anytime soon as long as AGW looks like a profitable proposition.
Steve’s claim was specifically Colorado, Eric specifically doubts the Colorado claim, Steve dataslams Eric to the canvas, Eric claims apples v oranges.
Eric: Merely a flesh wound, come back and fight Steve
“Urban canyons have an impact on various local conditions:
…wind speed, as moving air is channeled and accelerated”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_canyon
It’s not just for Heat Islands anymore! 😉
Eric Webb says:
October 29, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Plum Island, New York had an 84 MPH wind gust, you don’t see a wind gust like that with only 45 MPH sustained winds.
A good guide is to double the sustained wind speed to get the max possible gust.
That depends on the pressure and forward momentum of the storm as well.
The West Side Highway as it hugs Riverside Park is merely a few small feet above sea level, so has already “flooded” but it’s about a hundred feet higher for water to overrun the park itself:
http://www.westsiderag.com/2012/10/29/912-a-m-riverside-park-running-path
Strange, the NYC traffic cams have all been taken out of service. Are there power cuts in the city.
ConEd was planning to shut power in parts of Lower Manhattan should flood waters comes in. In Manhattan, the power lines and transformers are all underground.
Here in the DC area, we have had a couple gusts of around 55 mph. Sustained winds not more than 30 mph or so. It isn’t over yet, but so far nothing out of the ordinary.
Interesting that the storm itself is moving at 24 knots but the wind isn’t much greater!
90 MPH sustained ?? I don’t see it anywhere.
Voting early for Obummer must have appeased Gaia’s Revenge…
Yeah, there’s no way this storm is producing sustained winds of 90 MPH, the NHC is way too aggressive with the sustained winds but a few wind gusts have gotten up to near 85 MPH with this storm.
Wind gusts do not define a hurricane.
Yeah, and somehow a wind gust to near 85 MPH will have associated sustained winds at 45 MPH, give me a break.
Yes, i’m thinking we get some chinooks gusts and winds higher than that Cat 1 you guys got…not to deminish the affect of any rain/storm surge you may get…but this is a POLITICAL Cat 1 storm…
Right on Lance … yeterday I called it a “hype-icane”.
My dog farts harder than a lot of the stations are reporting on Steven’s posted map 😉
Local Tampa news showed Sandy with hurricane force winds at a mind numbing 25 mph.
If you check random sites from Dover north and east to Southampton (and including NYC and Newark), the highest sustained winds reported have been 43mph. My data doesn’t show gusts, but 80 mph gusts are certainly possible with 45mph sustained winds.
By the way, the lowest barometric pressure I’ve seen is 28.13 inches near Dover. Pressure was still dropping last hour. Me thinks this is a storm. Maybe even a bad storm. The apocalypse it is not.
Hurricane force winds as reported by Fox Tampa Channel 13
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8136533333_502afb763e_c.jpg
Here’s someone in the eye crossing at 6pm:
“Gaylon says:
October 29, 2012 at 2:59 pm
The eye just passed us…whew! dodged a bullet (sarc/off). Still light winds here and drizzle. Watching a news cast of a guy on the coast commenting on “whipping” winds “driving” rain while a potted palm swayed gracefully behind him, no visible rain, lol. It’s kinda suspicious to me when they don’t wipe the water spots off the lens cover.
Sorry to hear, and do believe, that it must be worse somewhere else, and we hope you guys are all alright.
But here at ground zero this has turned out to be a non-event up to this point. Newscasters saying local sustained winds around 40 mph with gusts all the way up to 54 mph! Me thinks the 90 mph winds may be up a few dozen hundred feet, cuz we haven’t seen a gust that I would even call 30 mph. Oh well.
it’s 6pm our time.
Gaylon.”
H/T Gaylon @ WUWT
Someone seems to be jerking us around…
NOAA has adopted a strategy of exaggerating all weather and climate events.
NOAA deception is the only thing I would call “unprecedented” in this event.
Hurricane Sandy ready to lash N.J. with unprecedented fury:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/10/nj_braces_for_hurricane_sandy.html
I’m totally disgusted. I almost bought the lie.
NOAA just raised the storm surge probability here. The water was already above the normal high tide mark during low tide.
The next meme for the warmists will be ‘get used to the seawater flooding as this will be the new normal.’
Any bets as to who will come out with this kind of remark first?
Storm no longer a “hurricane” as per TWC. Now called “super storm Sandy”.
It wasn’t a hurricane when it made landfall either.
I wasn’t. I don’t know where they were pulling the 90 mph stuff from? The Hurricane Hunters couldn’t find any surface, sustained winds above 50. That makes it a Tropical Storm the last day or two.
Is that a new category between hurricane and tropical storm?
Wasn’t it about a week ago or so that either NWS was going to start naming Winter Storms?
It’s going to miss high tide too.
oh-bummer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m2gl51J6lo&t=1m36s
Wasn’t that scary, huh? Didn’t you see those pancakes coming right out at you? Blueberry pancakes scare me, I don’t know about you. Buckwheat particularly can be frightening. Well kids it’s not one of our biggies I can tell you that.
They are radicals, after the children (and clueless immigrants). “Who knows only his own generation [of hurricanes] remains always a child.” This is a long-range war for the public mind, waged over generations as opportunities appear (“never let a good crisis go to waste”).
NYC tide gauge blogging:
http://pjmedia.com/weathernerd/2012/10/29/major-new-york-city-flood-appears-imminent/
Time Square still all lit up. No damage from the “canyons in the city”.