Game Over – Arctic Basin Is Out Of Ice

13 Responses to Game Over – Arctic Basin Is Out Of Ice

1. NikFromNYC says:

   July 2, 2011 at 7:15 pm

   Minus stories ’bout yourself you merely masturbate, chug chug chug: TELL A STORY. Be human. Don’t be a devout introvert.

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2. NikFromNYC says:

   July 2, 2011 at 7:21 pm

   Y’lack love for yo’ fo’.

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3. Murray says:

   July 2, 2011 at 8:24 pm

   Hmmm! http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/NEWIMAGES/arctic.seaice.color.000.png

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   • Scott says:

     July 2, 2011 at 9:04 pm

     I used to really pay attention to the high-res images provided by CT, but often it paints areas as 50-95% that just don’t make sense. IIRC, it had some of the high Arctic as being <90% concentration during Dec-Jan, which really didn't make much sense (refreezing was going on far, far south of there, and the high-Arctic wasn't completely melted in mid Sept and was resolidifying by the end of that month). The low-res images make a lot more sense, at least to me. If someone can explain the odd results portrayed by the high-res ones, I'd be interested to hear it.

     -Scott

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     • stevengoddard says:

       July 2, 2011 at 9:52 pm

       The microwave sensors often confuse surface meltwater with seawater.

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     • Scott says:

       July 3, 2011 at 1:10 am

       Yes, that makes sense and now I remember that being discussed some last year. IIRC, that’s also why extent is preferred over area (even though area would technically be a better metric), because it helps alleviate some of those problems (with the area number being up to +/- 15% in the summer, IIRC).

       Which is interesting, because the CT area numbers tend to do as good or even a better job in being predictive for the Sept minimum. I wonder if it’s because the % of meltwater is roughly consistent year-to-year and thus leads to similar systematic errors?\

       -Scott

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4. Stark Dickflüssig says:

   July 2, 2011 at 9:32 pm

   There’s no ice at all, you’re just seeing a vast field of polar bear corpses.

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5. Ill wind blowing says:

   July 3, 2011 at 12:33 am

   Stark Dickflossing:

   I know that watching ice melt can be rather boring but do you not have any patience? Perhaps you live in a perpetual present? Try breaking the future down into 5 year increments and then let your wunderbar science make some basic predictions about the future.

   Steve already made his. When I asked him what would happen by 2020 his wise answer was that the Arctic would either grow, shrik or stay the same. With science like that who needs talismans and Ouija boards?

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   • Stark Dickflüssig says:

     July 3, 2011 at 1:35 am

     I’d be happy to make a prediction: Your short-term predictions will continue to validate the skeptics. Your long-term predictions will continue to to recede, ever further into the future, eventually escaping all bound of responsibility. I don’t believe a word you say since you’ve never demonstrated any basis for believing any word you say.

     As for the Arctic & Antarctic ice, I bet that you will not jet-ski to the Geographic North Pole in 2020, or any year before or after that.

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     • Blade says:

       July 3, 2011 at 10:43 am

       “I’d be happy to make a prediction: Your short-term predictions will continue to validate the skeptics. Your long-term predictions will continue to to recede, ever further into the future, eventually escaping all bound of responsibility. I don’t believe a word you say since you’ve never demonstrated any basis for believing any word you say.

       As for the Arctic & Antarctic ice, I bet that you will not jet-ski to the Geographic North Pole in 2020, or any year before or after that.“

       Repeated for truth, especially the bold part. I like that! A clear bet with a good visual.

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   • Robert Austin says:

     July 3, 2011 at 3:41 am

     Agreed, that watching the day-to day changes in polar ice is like watching paint dry. On the other hand, what is the scientific basis for your suggested 5 year intervals? Consider that we have only had about six 5 year intervals since satellite observation of polar ice began. Before 1979 the polar ice coverage was terra incognito (in spite of anecdotal evidence). So why not 60 year intervals which are more in nature’s scale. For example, this is the approximate cycle time of the PDO.

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6. RVDL says:

   July 3, 2011 at 1:00 am

   How much damage is created by Icebreakers?

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   • arctic io says:

     July 3, 2011 at 1:22 am

     Depends. If icebreaker hits this peace, icebreaker sinks.

     http://www.arctic.io/observations/32/2011-06-30/9-N55.121316-W55.082095/Part-of-Pertermann-Glacier-in-Atlantic

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