NSIDC Death Spiral Update : Arctic Ice Extent Higher Than 1989

6 Responses to NSIDC Death Spiral Update : Arctic Ice Extent Higher Than 1989

1. Dave N says:

   May 4, 2012 at 7:00 am

   Anyone who says arctic sea-ice hasn’t been recovering in the last 5 years is a flat out liar.

   I don’t label anyone with the D-word, unlike alarmists; either someone is telling the truth, or they ain’t.

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   • LRC says:

     May 8, 2012 at 5:29 pm

     Obviously you do not live in the high arctic. Anyone who lives there and sees you comment knows you have no clue about which you talk about.
     Please remeber there are 2 parts of ice that extent does not tell. Thickness and continuity. Extent means that there is at least 15% of the ocean covered by some kind of ice. Exapmly if 50% of extent was all covered and 50% was only 15% covered that means in realty only 57.5% of the extent area actually is covered by ice. The other side is the thickness. Satellites can not even get that purfect because if you get a wind the jams lots of ice into ridges, to the satellite it appears thick in reality it could be ice that can break apart very easily and melt very fast. As a hint of how bad things are. look at the extent in February and you would know that most of that ice is very thin and will dissappear quickly.
     Go to Baffin Island and then report here how great the Arctic ice is.

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     • stevengoddard says:

       May 8, 2012 at 5:34 pm

       http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/cryosat-arctic-ice-same-thickness-as-1940/

       Are you suggesting that people live on pack ice?

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   • Jim says:

     May 9, 2012 at 1:23 pm

     Lets set Dave N back to the year 1993. Dave would have looked back at “ice extent” and said “Anyone who has said ice extent has not been recovering for the past 5 years is lying.” Oops. Dave would have been wrong as future years show. Dave, of course, would have said the same in 2000 about the past 4 years, but alas, he would have been wrong again. Now he is saying the same foolish thing.
     Dave, I have a suggestion…check out long term trends, rather than just 5 years. And you don’t need to do any additional research…just look at the graph above.

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2. Traitor in Chief says:

   May 4, 2012 at 7:16 am

   what good is a death spiral if you can’t depend on it?

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   • miked1947 says:

     May 5, 2012 at 3:03 am

     Mark should take lessons from Katherine and call it a Weirding Spiral. These people are suffering the consenquenses or their own words

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