Bill Gray : Biggest El Nino Since 1998


Bill Gray tells me that the current El Nino is the largest since 1998.

I was in Northern California during the 1997-1998 El Nino, and it almost never stopped raining.  Huge amounts of snow fell in the mountains. A repeat would end the drought, and cause climate experts to talk endlessly about the unprecedented spike in temperatures – caused by global warming.

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16 Responses to Bill Gray : Biggest El Nino Since 1998

  1. wizzum says:

    So the politicians will scrape by without addressing the water supply problem, just like they did in Australia 10 years ago, then in another 10-15 years another drought comes and everyone is shocked there isn’t enough water…..rinse repeat./

    • Tel says:

      What are you talking about?

      In Australia they dumped multi-billions into desalination plants, because the much cheaper and more effective concept of a dam was considered evil by the Green movement and besides they “knew” it would never rain again.

      Same desalination plants have been expensively sitting idle ever since. We have massive unused fresh water capacity. Building more dams would still have been cheaper, smarter and better, but there you go, they “addressed the problem” as it were.

      • wizzum says:

        My bad, I was thinking of storage and mentioned supply. Yes they “addressed” the supply problem but what a cock up.

  2. gregole says:

    I was out of California for good by summer of 1995, I can but concur with your assessment after having been raised there and living there for decades.

    There are dry spells followed by seasons of torrential rains. I lived for in the northern foothills up around JPL and we experienced a fair number of flood years. And they were eventually followed by dry years and well-publicized drought conditions. Yawn. It’s California. Always been like that.

    • Tel says:

      What that implies is a water *storage* problem, not a water supply problem. Anyone who cannot understand the concept of storage is not qualified to hold office.

  3. kingbum says:

    If you notice after El Niños the temperature drops significantly so what will be interesting is will the temps drop lower than the current decadal low for a year 2012 on a global average. ..A significant drop past the 2012 mark in 2017 will bear out we are really trending significantly cooler

  4. Another Ian says:

    Doesn’t look so fierce here

    And looks like most of the heat is north of the tropics?

    • Ian, that map is dated 17 October.

      Still, looking at what Tony has posted, I’m not yet convinced that this ENSO is going to be so big of a deal. I know of the reputation of Bill Gray. But there’s more to forecasting temperatures than measuring an ENSO. If it were that simple, we wouldn’t have nearly so much to talk about around here.

  5. Andy Oz says:

    El Niño in Australia means drought, & we’re having a dry winter.
    Normal cycle which climate morons want to blame on CO2.

    • Another Ian says:


      Interesting that our area has had the wettest June for years and so far the winter has been mild in an area that can be cruel.

      I wonder then, given there is that eastern Pacific heat that seems to be mostly north of the equator and apparently no warnings from the Peruvian fishing scene as yet, whether we are in a situation as yet unmeasured by modern instrumentation like the dead set certainty monster el Nino that didn’t a couple of years ago.

      Seemed to me that that one threw WXMaps into a wobblie

  6. Andy Oz says:

    Even the ABC used to say El Nino is normal.
    Now everything is global warming.

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