Any Northwest Passage voyage would have to get past this 200 mile long mass of ice along the Alaskan coast
Temperatures there are right at the freezing mark, and the ice isn’t going anywhere.
Last year, climate criminals showed pictures of walrus along the Alaskan coast, and said they were there because global warming had melted all the ice.
Warmist missions & predictions have not worked out too well in past years,, (understatement). I believe they would not risk another “Ship of Fools” outcome; despite their stupid propaganda.
http://imgick.pennlive.com/home/penn-media/width620/img/opinion/photo/global-warming-ironyjpg-dbb707974303b06f.jpg
Too funny, Groke!
I love it, I would like enough vessels frozen in place (with no one getting too hurt) so that the media could not avoid reporting it.
according to nightvid cole on the arctic sea ice forum, ice that looks like that in the northern sea route is just rubble ,others there say it is unofficially open . i would not fancy sailing anything bar a nuclear ice breaker into that rubble,and even then i would not fancy my chances.
FYI:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11762680/Three-scientists-investigating-melting-Arctic-ice-may-have-been-assassinated-professor-claims.html
” A Cambridge Professor has made the astonishing claim that three scientists investigating the melting of Arctic ice may have been assassinated within the space of a few months.
Professor Peter Wadhams said he feared being labelled a “looney” over his suspicion that the deaths of the scientists were more than just an ‘extraordinary’ coincidence.
But he insisted the trio could have been murdered and hinted that the oil industry or else sinister government forces might be implicated.
The three scientists he identified – Seymour Laxon and Katherine Giles, both climate change scientists at University College London, and Tim Boyd of the Scottish Association for marine Science – all died within the space of a few months in early 2013. ”
How long before deniers are blamed?
As recently as late last spring Wadhams predicted the arctic ice would shrink down to 1.9 million km2 this summer. It is looking like it will have a hard time getting below 6 million km2. I’m afraid the fellow is starting to lose it.
He made a lot of hay with dire predictions the arctic would be ice-free by the summer of 2015. Recently he changed it to “by 2020”. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/12/12/moving-the-goalposts-has-professor-wadhams-explained-his-now-changed-ice-free-arctic-prediction/
You can only make hay with balderdash so long before people start to call balderdash balderdash. Wadhams may be reaching that point, and dreading the future he sees. He will be a laughing stock, and not a “wise professor”. It must feel like a threat and a sort of death to him. The gravy train is off its tracks.
In the tangled web he has woven for himself he’s resorting to desperate conspiracy theories, I fear. What he fails to see is that, if climate scientists were ever assassinated, it would most likely be if they threatened to come clean and speak the truth, and disrupt the gravy train.
“He will be a laughing stock”
Please use present tense, !!
Some of us have been laughing a long time. Others are just starting to have the corners of their mouths twitch.
As a so-called climate scientist, Wadhams should have realized if people among his acquaintanceship die they are most likely to be other climate scientists. Duh.
Besides, there are now so many ‘climate scientists’ that it is inevitable that some are going to die through accidents.
Considering the average intelligence of your modern grantologist, it only makes sense to see a higher representation of Darwin Awards in their midst.
Just so there can be no confusion about Prof Wadhams…
His chief industrial links in ice research have been with the offshore oil and marine transport industries. He received continuous support from British Petroleum Co. from 1976 until 1992 for his research group at SPRI, covering funding of a technician and support for the design and development of novel instrumentation for use in Arctic ice engineering.
Funded by Big Oil – who would have thought? 😉
Very interesting…..maybe the good doctor, during his decades as a minion of Big Oil, learned about the hit squads Big Oil deploys to silence those brave souls who tell the truth about Apocalyptic Climate Change. (/sarc)
Or could it be that the pressure of maintaining the con-game has gotten to him, and he’s cracked?
Hey Andy! Do you have a source or reference for this? I want to add it to my “Big Green” file.
The puzzle to me is why it is so cold in the Beaufort Sea. With the PDO in a short-term warm spike, midst a longer term cold phase, (much as occurred in the mid 1950’s), I was looking for reactions associated with such warm spikes, one of which is warmth along the north coast of Alaska and melting in the Chukchi and Beaufort Seas. The recent chill is not what I would have expected, and once again I am forced to be humble, and confess the majesty of how this creation is put together is above my best efforts to understand it.
One thing I’ve noticed about the better meteorologists is that they don’t expect to be right all the time. In fact they know they are going to be wrong, and their eyes rove over the maps to see where they got it wrong. Then, when they see such evidence, it is like an alarm going off, and alerts them to something they should pay attention to. Rather than being mortified that they “got it wrong”, they seem elated that they stand corrected, and may be the first to see the correction.
Compare this to certain climate scientists. When shown evidence they “got it wrong” they pretend they actually expected the unexpected, but forgot to mention it to you. They come up with downright laughable explanations for totally botched predictions. I think my favorite excuse was the one that popped up after they said “children would not know what snow was” and then England got buried in snow: They attempted to explain it as being caused by the open water in the arctic putting extra moisture in the air. Then, when the arctic froze over like it does every winter, it kept right on snowing. When confronted again, they searched the corners of their eyes, seeking some new balderdash to appear authoritative with. Under no conditions do they ever admit they “got it wrong” or are even slightly surprised.
Me? I learned long ago that blushing doesn’t kill you, and it is better to be honest, for you can’t learn from your mistakes if you don’t admit them. Stand by the Truth and the Truth will stand by you.
https://sunriseswansong.wordpress.com/2015/07/20/arctic-sea-ice-the-first-law/
“Me? I learned long ago that blushing doesn’t kill you, and it is better to be honest, for you can’t learn from your mistakes if you don’t admit them. Stand by the Truth and the Truth will stand by you.”
amen to that caleb. if more people had those self same values the world would be a far nicer place for all .
There is clear sailing inside Tigvariak Island and the Stockton Islands, with 20 fathoms draft. Things get a little tight inside the MacQuire Islands, however you are totally clear once you pass Flaxman Island all the way to Cambridge Bay. For a larger draft vessel, it may take another few days to a week for the ice outside the Maguire Islands to clear that last 12 miles of ice.
On the other end Resolute Bay is open and the next 2 and a half months will tell the tale. Not sure why you think 200 miles of the Alaska coast is blocked from Flaxman Island to Pt. Barrow, Tony, but that is simply not the case.
Okay, typoooooo….. ONE and a half months (don’t have a coronary).
We don’t know whether the NW passage will be open this year or not. We don’t bend spoons, and we don’t fund windmill kayaks. But it is also stupid to pretend to know the outcome by mis-stating the facts. The facts are that Cambridge Bay from the west is guaranteed this year, and Resolute Bay from the east. You may want to wish harm to people who endeavor to venture. But unless you venture yourself, you are just couch mush. Take control, be a man, want to be wild. Or not. Your choice.
A trip on a cruise ship is a venture? Sounds more like sheer luxury to me.
Some day I suppose you’ll be able to drive up Mount Everest in pressurized vehicles with heated cabins, and call yourself a mountain climber.
Others take on the corruption rampant in our government from their computers at home. IMHO that takes more guts, and is a greater “venture”. I wouldn’t call such people “mush”.
By the way, did you know that if a big gale brews up, all that off-shore ice can come south and go crashing onto the shore, occasionally grinding right up the beach and moving several hundred feet inland? What you call “clear sailing” might swiftly become less than a luxury cruise.
So, on second thought, maybe it is a “venture”, after all.
Who demonstrates more concern for the passengers? Our host, who points out they need to get by a large mass of ice, or you, who dismiss the dangers?
Come to think of it, being in a pressurized vehicle with a heated cabin wouldn’t be all that safe, if you drove into a Mount Everest Avalanche.
I suppose we all have to go someday. The rich get to go in heated cabins.
I agree 100% with you, Caleb. Sorry, I was a bit under the influence last night and wasn’t very clear. The ‘venture’ isn’t a cruise ship. And it certainly isn’t either the cruise ship passengers, nor the cruise ship profiteers. I was talking about Tony’s idea that there is 200 miles of interpenetratable ice along Alaska’s coast from Barrow to Flaxman’s Island. It is more like ten miles, and there is over a month of melt season left.
Anyone who ‘ventures’ into the arctic has my respect, regardless of their political allegiance, or their scientific affiliation. Don’t quite know why we are even discussing cruise ships, that was only mentioned here by you.
All is forgiven. I wasn’t under the influence, which may explain why I was taking things too seriously. Forgive me.
I also have a certain respect for the fellows who try to take on the Northwest Passage, though they sometimes test my patience when they utter nonsense about the arctic being “ice free”.
Last year around this time a fellow tried to thread the needle and get through the ice to clearer water, and the ice closed in on him. I think he got trapped around July 10. He tried to be patient, but polar bears wandering around outside his ship made it hard to sleep well. Slepp deprevarion does nasty things to the old brain, and around July 20 he’d had enough, and called the coast guard.
https://sunriseswansong.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/arctic-sailor-july-21-alt_altan-girl-trapped1.jpg
The coast guard to the rescue! Hip hip hooray for the coastguard! (And for the tax-payers who paid for the rescue.)
https://sunriseswansong.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/arctic-sailor-july-21-alt_altan-girl-under-tow1.jpg
Conclusion? Clear sailing may not be as clear as it looks on the maps.
“Clear sailing may not be as clear as it looks on the maps.”
Ahh brings back memories of a certain turkey down south ! 🙂
http://pafc.arh.noaa.gov/data/ice/ice.png
Great map. Thanks.
The 2009 Climategate emails and six years of official excuses for government deceit disguised as 97% consensus science have conclusively shown that all humanity is now captive passengers on Spaceship Earth, guided by world leaders who have completely lost contact with reality!
Fortunately for humanity, Nobel Laureate Max Planck recognized a “conscious and intelligent Mind” directing the force that creates and sustains atoms, lives and planets in the solar system, . . .
the same force that endowed humans with inalienable rights to self-governance in order to insure “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10640850/Assurance.pdf
That is why I am absolutely certain BIG BROTHER IS GOING DOWN !