Experts insist that the Arctic is melting down at -20C, but they are lying. There has been no trend in Arctic sea ice area since the 2006 peak.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/timeseries.anom.1979-2008
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Prediction;There gonna take down that graph just like our friends from DMI did
if the trend is +0.01 it means arctic ice has increased by 0.1 million sq. km over the past 10 years.
That means there is a trend.
It is getting cooler.
Another chart showing much to do about nothing.
Reblogged this on Climatism and commented:
Despite record CO2 output over the past 10 years, despite the “Hottest Ever – Year, Month, Day” blah blah blah, and despite doomsday predictions from 97% of earth’s climate experts, the Arctic fails to melt away…
During that period, the AMO has been at the top of its cycle.
The AMO will start dropping in the next year or so, and the recovery in Arctic sea ice to the near zero levels of before the LIA , will be over.
If all the ice on the planet melted, who’s the dumb-ass that said it would be a bad thing living in a tropical paradise?
I cant wait to have some financial savings from all this global fucken warming or the climate meme lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKcAYMb5uk4
http://www.greentouradventure.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Tropical-Paradise-23.jpg
Now
be nice you all, tonight,
and switch off the lights to help save the world
that would be a case of:
Don’t let your light shine
Contrary to the claims in the article, Arctic sea ice extent is continuing to make new record lows for this time of year.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/arctic.sea.ice.interactive.html
Cryosphere seems to always be an outlyer, (and some would say an out-and-out liar.)
DMI says sea ice is low, but not lowest.
https://sunriseswansong.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/dmi3-0318-icecover_current_new-1.png?w=680
Um…wasn’t the graph that Tony posted from the cryosphere?
Sorry if I was unclear. The commentator I was responding to was posting the Cryosphere Today graph, which is different from the DMI graph.
Slightly different measuring system.. ALL values well within any measurement or calculation error.
Its only when you put it in context, as SG’s graph does (NO TREND IN 10 or so YEAR)
Or when you put it against the reality that Arctic sea ice is still ANOMOLOUSLY HIGH compared to the most of the rest of the Holocene.
Then you realise that we are SO LUCKY to be living in an Interglacial, even if we are not far off its coldest period so far.
Let’s all just hope the climate remains SLIGHTLY WARM.
Near low for the very short period we have decent records.
SO WHAT.
Arctic sea ice almost exactly where it should be for the phase of the AMO.
It is still way, way ABOVE the often ZERO summer sea ice of the first 3/4 or more of the Holocene. That’s because its still trying to melt after the COLDEST period in the last 10,000 years.
All this AGW stupidity of “lowest Arctic sea ice” is built on massive ignorance of the historical levels.
Are you one of those people who is MASSIVELY IGNORANT, Bill ???
Bill your talking about weather, not climate.
Bill.. you were able to answer with a meaningless pap post at 2:04am.
Why aren’t you able to answer my question, Bill?
It’s been an interesting winter to watch the Pole, with a sort of whirlpool of warmth draining into outer space, coming up mostly from the Atlantic as a series of bulges. Each time the arctic got prodded, frigid air masses would get nudged south, and, even as the Pole was milder, places like Mexico, Kuwait, and Vietnam got snows. I assume the planet was seeking some sort of equilibrium, with two opposing forces keeping it out of whack. The El Nino was creating warmth even as the “Quiet Sun” supplied less warmth. It is a very interesting situation, but politicians are not interested, and those scientists who have allowed their honor to be bribed away must turn a blind eye.
What matters most seems to be the waters under the ice. 2012, among recent years, had the most ice at this time, and the least in September. Therefore is pays to watch Sea Surface Temperatures, and focus on things like the “warm blob”, now shrinking south of Alaska, and the unusual “cold blob” that has appeared south of Iceland.
https://sunriseswansong.wordpress.com/2016/03/15/arctic-sea-ice-the-2016-maximum/
@Bill Butler
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2016/03/10/ice-free-arctic-in-only-2250-years/#comment-574889
Poor Jim never answered the question I posed to him,
he must have been scared or something
I don’t know Bill if you want to try and answer my question:
what makes you think the ice melt in the arctic is now more than it was 87 years ago?
Oh real sciency.
Someone called bill posts some
extra data relevant to the bloggers
hypothesis of no trend and instead
of being carefully examined, gets
poo pooed.
Id like the blogger to answer this.
What was involved in your effort to
find flaws in your own hypothesis?
Please list your flaw finding attempts.
Thankyou.
Please sober up before you next post.
LiD:
The claim is that the graph from cryosphere shows no trend for the last decade. Do you dispute that?
Really my comment about it being weather is just pointing out that the satellite record on which the claim of “new record lows for this time of year.” is based is a very short period. Claiming that it is a “new record” as if arctic sea ice extent has never been lower is pure hype! All evidence indicates that less than 90 years ago (Long before the supposed effects of mans industry took effect) Arctic sea ice extent was lower than it is today. And yet we see the claim time and again that this current melt is a record!
Add to this the fact is that Arctic sea ice is a terrible indicator of climate trends in the first place. Every measurement of the ice be it extent or volume or area etc, can be and has been effected by many forces other than just warmth in the atmosphere. This latest decline appears to be resulting from warmer water undercutting the ice with limited insolation. But even a single good storm can break up the ice and markedly change the measurements in a very short time. Even changes in salinity can have a marked effect.
The time for most of us to start worrying about Arctic sea ice extent is not when it’s melting. Start worrying when year after year it doesn’t melt or break up and locks all of the coasts of Greenland and Iceland in it’s grip.
Personally this Hoosier is looking forward to the hot spring and summer to come that is forecast for our area. The last two summers have been very mild with few 90 F days and no 100 F days. I’m ready for some warmth. And I won’t be losing sleep at all if the NW passage happens to open up.
The claim is…
No trend in arctic sea ice for 10 years.
The chart is put forward as evidence
toward that claims correctness.
Do you understand this?
Whats wrong with denier muppets?
Real bloody sciency.
https://i0.wp.com/realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Screenshot-2016-03-18-at-02.04.51-PM.png
The chart is totally correct.
THERE HAS BEEN NO TREND IN ARCTIC SEA ICE FOR 10 YEARS.
Thanks for your alcohol fuelled posts, they continue the mockery of the AGW believer.
He should go easy on the stuff …
http://i63.tinypic.com/25f5zcm.jpg
Again i ask the blogger
to show attemps to challenge his
own work.
Or is it that any evidence contrary
to hypothisis is dismissed as
falslsy collated data put forward by
a huge conspiracy.
Real sciency.
First ask your alarmist buddies to do the same.
That would be real science.
Li D, you do realize you’re not helping your “sciency” cause by half-literate contributions, don’t you?
@Li D
kindly refer to the name of the blogger you are referring to?
Let’s all focus on normal global earth changes rather than the massive unabated corruption within our own government. It’s called deception through diversion and disinformation.