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NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said in a recent interview that his“foremost” mission as the head of America’s space exploration agency is to improve relations with the Muslim world.
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That is pretty ridiculous. If you actually read the The nasa website, there is nothing like a “foremost” mission. This was in an interview with Al Jazeera, and he was just exaggerating one aspect of NASA’s role that is largely a way to get rich middle eastern countries to co-fund projects so the US doesn’t have to foot the bill exclusively. Then those governments can say they are supporting space research to support their people
YOur idiocy id profound enough to divine what was in this persons mind. Oh I fogot, you have plenty of practice doing this for Hansen
Deebee,
no much simpler. I READ the NasaWebsite, and I READ the interview, If one does those things (suspect behavior on this site, I know) it is pretty clear, and requires no divination.
And I have NEVER tried to read Hansen’s mind. Unlike Steve and others i read what he ACTUALLY writes and what he actually says, and do not incessantly repeating things that have been proven to be misquotes.
“When I became the NASA administrator — or before I became the NASA administrator — he charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science … and math and engineering,” Bolden said in the interview.
How is this not “foremost”? His mission IN HIS OWN WORDS is not Space exploration and has nothing to do with Space exploration. Generally I take a man at his word, especially if his actions follow from them. They do.
Dougmanxx,
You guys are so predictable. Look at Nasa’s budget, look at Nasa’s resources and spending. Look at what NASA actually does. No, you can’t do that because you prefer to take a quote from an interview with AL JAZEERA, and blow it up into this bizarre muslim socialist conspiracy fantasy around Obama. OOOOO OBAMA’s NASA head said NASA’s FOREMOST mission was to improve relations with muslim nations Muslim out reach. PROOF that he is beholden to his muslim master. next he is going to enforce SHARIA LAW!!!!.
LOOK at what the change is in NASA budget committed to Muslim countries. Hmmmm, not much different. Hmmmm. NASA is a actually getting money from Rich middle eastern countries and saving US taxpyers for research involving water and other projects related to resource determination.
this was a QUOTE made to a muslim oriented news service, to a clientele that was a public relations ploy and fundraising appeal all in one.
of course you will point to this and say EXACTLY. And I will just laugh and shake my head at your determined attempts to make reality fit the mold of your ideology
No one at NASA is responsible for what they say. It isn’t rocket science after all.
Steve,
maybe you haven’t noticed but some politicians sometimes tailor their words to the audience they are talking to. Being conservatives you are probably unused to this since every republican always says exactly the same thing to everyone they address
This space ship is going to the moon, ummm… mars, ummm…. jupiter, umm crashing into the ocean.
Steve,
of course maybe I am wrong and NASA is sending billions to Muslim countries in order to infiltrate american science with a fifth column of Mecca facing towelheads. Just show me the figures and once again I will apologize for being skptical of what you saw.
OOPS. Am I asking for documentation again? How very silly of me.
Do you ever get tired of making up idiotic straw men? He said what he said. Deal with it.
Steve,
I explained what he said, you, as usual, ignore my points and you offer nothing to contradict the facts I presented. Please show me WHAT has NASA done that is so different from under Bush that indicates NASA is making outlays to muslim countries or anything other than taking their money for joint porjects that comes close to being the “Foremost” mission. Doesn’t the word FOREMOST mean more than anything else?
So is the point of your post that he blatantly lied to muslims because in fact only a tiny percentage of NASA budget STILL goes to muslim countries.
Funny how many ridiculous explanations with no factual basis were manufactured to “explain”, Palin and Bachman’s ridiculous comments.
Please show me that he didn’t say that.
Tony Duncan
Do you ever post comments under any other name here on this blog?
Steve,
Why should I show he didn’t say it. I totally agree that he said it. I never disputed that. You once again ignore everything I sadi and provide nothing to dispute what I said.
It is not OK in my world for people to lie.
Amino
No.
“Since World War II, the only space programs have been government programs”
I wonder how many space programs there were before World War II?
“Any all-private space program can only get off the ground if the government waives, or scraps, dozens of regulations.”
I severely doubt that there will be any “all-private” programs in the next decade, when the ISS reaches its use-by date. It seems like enough time in order to make the appropriate regulation changes.
Shame NASA is having budget cuts, you could double it’s budget for the next few years if all that money given by the USA to Iraq and Afghanistan had not been stolen by corrupt officials.
Andy
Just as well the NASA has gone done the drain. Once they got side-tracked focusing on the Global warming hoax it became a non science outfit anyways.
Back before 1990 NASA was an excellent organization, I would very strongly support a real space exploration program but I abhor NASA doing climate research and engaging in politcal activism.
Is Mr Duncan the official NASA spokesperson and historian? Does he drink on the job?
Gator,
No, I don’t drink at all. I just actually read and then check it.
Maybe you should start. You still have not denied being NASA’s official spokesmodel.
He does have practice “Spinning” and “Juggling”. By his own admission! I have only his behavior on this site as a reference!
If Tony is right we obviously cannot trust a word Bolden says. I wonder who else at NASA this might apply to?
Paul,
i wonder what politician of ANY party can be trusted with anything they say.
Is Bolden a politician?
Paul – must be. Tony said so, so it must be a fact! Of course that explains the reason that no NASA data can be trusted – we all know all politicians lie!
As i expected the usual suspects come out in force and say all sorts of things that they are Sure totally destroy my arguments.
All I said was that the HEAD of NASA, (yes it is a political post) made a statement that I acknowledge to be a fact that he really did make. I then explain that he MADE the statement to Al Jazeera which, apparently no one here knows, is a media outlet that has a high percentage of viewers from muslim countries. I made the brilliant observation that his use of words may have been influenced by his audience. Again i realize that all of you (Paul excluded) are extreme conservatives and all the politicians you have brought into congress would NEVER shade their meanings to tailor who they were talking to .
Steve and the others ASSUME what he said is literally true since you are so pure. I have begun to wonder if you are Tholiens. That would explain your complete confusion and feeling of betrayal at the concept of deceit. (except of Steve of course who can’t help lying about one thing repeatedly).
Of course the dreaded MEANING of this totally undisputed statement is just more evidence of our socialist Islamist president’s betrayal of America and fawning over his master muslim overlords.
then I point out that IF what he said is literally true, and is not just a politician throwing a bone to a target audience, then the NASA budget should be spending significantly more of its budget and resources toward projects that would support the statment. I have been waiting (foolishly I know, Steve seems to make it a point of honor to never present facts relavent to the issue when arguing with me) for someone to show me these great outlays and the huge number of new muslim recruits to NASA. yet no one is willing to bother looking up how much NASA spends on what to see if there is ANY indication that NASA has transformed their entire organization to one whose foremost task is “improving relations with the muslim world” ( not the full quote of course which actually says “perhaps”, quite a little qualifier there).
NOW Steve and others are AGHAST that this has NOT happened and falling back into tholien mode are incensed that this person would, Allah forbid, LIE to all those poor hopeful muslims,.
Well actually on further examination, there are a FEW joint projects with Muslim dominated governments have PAID US moeny in order to support programs that those countries can use to give themselves some prestige and track various resources that affect their populations. So while his statement was a gross exaggeration, it was not a complete lie, because NASA HAS done something to encourage collaboration with the muslim world.
again I realize that none of you will bother to understand the above or respond rationally, but it just makes my heart swell with Christian compassion that I am willing to explain in such loving detail, what almost any other person in the world would understand immediately on reading that quote and looking at NASA’s actual endeavors.
You are mental.
Steve
of COURSE I am mental. No same person would so patiently explain something so obvious to people who are determined to twist reality to their ideological conclusions and are unwilling to actually engage the actual facts.
No sane person would work so hard to pervert logic.
Steve,
Once again another devastating content free rebuttal. I WISH I had your debating skills.
His statement was quite clear. No matter how many words you type, you can not change what he said.
Tony seems to be suggesting that Bolden was not telling the truth to Al Jazeera.
If this is true I don’t think our Arab friends will be highly amused.
Steve,
Show me where I EVER wrote he said something different than the quote.
It should be easy . it is just one post and all the comments are right under it. I will give you a hint “find” Tony, anf then read what I wrote!
Paul, At least YOU comprehend the meaning of what I write. Could you explain it to the others?
Obama said his stimulus package would keep unemployment below 8%. That was just a trillion dollar political statement. Politicians can’t be held responsible for what they say.
Steve,
NOW you are getting it. Obama and the admin said this even though they KNEW that most economists dismissed that is extremely un likely given the depth of the recession, and the limited nature of the stimulus. they were hoping for some sort of miraculous increase in productivity and job hiring, but it was clearly pie in the sky.
THAT mistake was almost as bad as Bush and the admin sacking a member of the admin for saying the Iraq war might cost over $80 billion! When in fact it will cost over two trillion. And from every repub politicians statement that is a lie you find find a dem one tha tis as well. Of course there are shades of difference.
Tony
Bolden said what he said. Just accept it and move on.
Paul
heer hear.
TonyD:
For years NASA has been a government funded works project that has had the primary goal to spend taxpayers money. In the 60s and 70s it was about space but that turned to promoting spending and justifying money spent foolishly. Most everything we have heard from NASA is either a justification or a plea for more money. Hansen’s entire career has been about enhancing the budget. This guy’s job is to make you feel good about wasting money on useless projects.
PaulH:
A good step to improve the budget would be to defund NASA, EPE, DOE, NOAA and any other “Scientific” research the government is wasting money on. Research can be done by for profit companies. Most government agencies could be privatized or eliminated at a tremendous saving to taxpayers.
And then after that smackdown you just changed the subject.
You know you should have said ‘my bad’ and the STFU. But only a real man could have done that.
“heer hear.”
Hear Heer Here?
Tony, Steve quoted the quote. Is this another one where he did not say what was recorded? You are making assumptions with nothing to back them up with. Why? You accuse Steve of taking a quote out of context, and then you try to pretend a quote does not exist. You are working too hard.
So NASA is now a bunch of politicians and not scientists? Whew! That explains why they cannot even read their own data correctly (and why they censor so much). Thanks for explaining that.
Phil,
please explain HOW it is a straw man to compare the quote Steve to reality. the quote said he was supposed to make “relations with the Muslim world the FOREMOST mission for NASA. If this really WAS the foremost mission of NASA shouldn’t that show up in NASA’s budget and resource distribution.
and yes I ABSOLUTELY made an excuse. And I am actually capable of taking a statement and interpreting it based on the nature of the quote and the audience for the quote and the facts that are relevant to the quote. I do not need to be connected to NASA in order to do something as simple as that.
So please explain to me anything that I said that is a lie.
Phil, you are SO smart. So PELASE remember you have to connect all the dots for morons like me
Stick to the subject at hand. You have a nasty habit of trying to change the subject and inject your strawman into the change, thus making it appear the strawman is the subject. You are wrong.
You are indeed entitled to your opinion, and you are indeed capable of making statements. However, your opinion and your statements are not by default facts. Your error is in assuming they must be, and the perfectness of your logic must be apparent for all to see. None of which is an undeniable fact, and when challenged on your opinion, you resort to snide ad hominems (through sarcasm usually, but as we see above, not always).
Your problem is your infalibility complex. So since you claim Christianity, I have to ask – who made you Pope?
Ok,
Steve must have lost some responses to my comments. So I will have to supply some arguments against my points.
Tony, You Moron. You maroon. You loon. You idiot.
there THAT should satisfy the guidelines of this blog.
That is not an “observation”, that is an “opinion” not supported by the facts so far presented.
No, that is your assumption. Until verified (or through clairvoyance), that is all it is. Nice Ad hominems too.
Do you have complete access to the entire NASA budget including black items? If not, that is a bad leap of faith on your part.
The only difference between Steve’s Ad hominems and yours, are yours are couched in diplo-speak. However, since I am one of the stupid unwashed masses you are directing that to, I do take offense. And would remind you (since you claim Christianity), those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves shall be exalted. Your ego is the size of Manhattan, and knows no bounds.
Phil,
there is a difference between sarcasm and ad hominem.
as fun as it is to read your responses. I have no time today.
But I love that because you can find nothing showing NASA has completely realigned their mission you make the wild assertion that it is being done through their “black items”. My, how am I ever going to disprove THAT!!
I make no claim to being a christian. But I appreciate you supplying me with a comment that perfectly supports my point on another post.
You have no time, because you have no case. Again, I made no such assertion, I asked a question. You are again attempting a straw man. Sorry, you may be able to get away with tricks like that with simple minded folks over at RC, but not here. And you are correct in one small aspect, I assumed you were Christian since you said your heart swelled with Christian compassion. I did not realize you were a cannibal. Or is that osmosis?
NASA’s mission from inception was to find ways to waste money. Everything else was just a cover for their real mission which became evident when Hansen went before congress in 1988 if not before.
Redundant and duplication of services is one thing but with government agencies it seems each wants their share of every project so we end up with 50 groups spending money on the same thing and 200 people counting raindrops.
Again with the ego. And alleging facts not in evidence. You have explained nothing. You have given us your opinion, which you are entitled to. However, just because it is YOUR opinion does not make it a fact.
Tony is an Entertainer after all!
can you source that? First time I have heard that figure bandied about, but then I do not subscribe to “Infallibility R Us”.