Sorry Steve but AndyW is correct on this.
The US spending is out of control and something has to be done. Note I said “spending is out of control” not revenue. Spending must be slashed but we can’t cut 1.3 trillion (the last figure I saw) in one year. I wish we could but we can’t. It’s as simple as that.
I like the Republicans “Cut Cap and Balance” bill. It has no chance of becoming legislature but it provides a great platform to run on and cover when Obama and the press try to blame the debt ceiling on Republicans. It also helps to push those Republicans still providing lip service to the Tea Party into joining the fold. November 2010 was almost 8 months ago. They need reminding that they can live with the Tea Party or lose in a primary.
The bottom line is there is no quick solution. I’m interested in Bachman. I’m a Cain fan but I don’t like his chances. I will vote for Romney in November if I have to but I’m afraid he won’t be any better then Bush fiscally. That’s sad since I voted for him in the 2008 primary but my opinions have changed.
Honestly, we can (& should) cut around 2.2 trillion.
Public education: a massive waste of money that enables child molesters (at around 100x the rate of the supposedly terrible Roman Catholic Church).
Federal Highway funds: Since the federal government is paying the states to maintain roads by taking money from the states, let’s cut out the middle man. Also, the roads that I use 99% of the time are payed for from the sales tax that I pay when I buy things, the property tax my landlord pays (out of the rent I kindly donate to him), and (duh) the few gallons of gasoline I buy when I actually have to use the car a couple times a month.
Post roads: I doubt the mail would get here any slower if the FedGov maintained a set of dirt tracks that horses could use between major cities. Comcast & Verizon might stop sending me ads for their overpriced garbage, though.
Defense: Ah, something that actually is in the US Constitution. We might want to end at least one of the five wars Obama is fighting for us. Also, we still have troops in Bosnia.
NEA: No. Just no.
Everything else (especially SS, Medicare, Medicaid): Let the people that believe in these insane schemes pay for them. We put them to a direct vote. The only way you’re allowed to be counted as voting “yea” is to sign your name to a check equal to at least your percentage of the revenue needed to support these programs. If you have received any government largess over the past year, that entire amount must be added to the same check. If the check bounces, your vote is tallied as a “nay” and you’re jailed for fraud.
I somehow don’t think my bank manager would see things quite this way. Maybe he would suggest I spend less. Why is this such a difficult thing for politicians to understand?
I know it’s poor form to mention members not in attendance, but I’m shocked none of our slightly-less-than-enthusiastic-about-a-certain-political-party commentariat have tried to claim that Palin ran for president in 2008 yet. 😉
“Spending must be slashed but we can’t cut 1.3 trillion (the last figure I saw) in one year. I wish we could but we can’t. ”
Barry and the Democrat congress ADDED that much to spending in a year – so I don’t see why another President with a committed Congress could not undo this mess just as quickly.
Give BHO credit (with a h/t to Saul Alinsky). He knew that if he could accelerate gummint spending through “crises”, new entitlements, and any other means, it would be darned difficult to roll back.
I like Bachman in a personal sense, I agree with her views on the importance of adhering to the concepts of our constitution, but she is not Presidential material in today’s society. Sadly, we live in a world dominated by marketing, and candidtates must have that ‘it’ factor or they will be steamrolled by their opponent.
Romney knows this and also knows that politcal gamesmanship is required to win Presidential elections today. He ticked me off when he pandered to the warmists, has since somewhat redeemed himself and IMO would be the best shot at defeating Barry.
Bachman as VP? I fear it would be another Palin repeat and do nothing but raise ratings for SNL. True conservatives cannot and will not get an honest vetting from our media.
If a doctor recommends a procedure to address a serious health issue, the patient must ask several important questions. One is what is a possible, if rare, bad consequence. Failure to ask is a failure to take proper personal responsibility for one’s health. Examples of bad consequences could be severe permanent crippling pain.
Likewise on the national level. When the government proposes a course of action to address a serious problem, citizens must ask several important questions. One question is to ask what could tragically happen if we follow the government’s proposal. An example is the loss of our democracy and the conversion of our country into a dictatorship and tyranny. Very few of our national leaders, nor any of our media pundits or university professors, discusses this. This means American citizens are negligent in the citizen’s responsibility for national health.
The current discussion on the debt ceiling is a clear example of our national failure for rational thinking and questioning. Obama said we must raise the ceiling or else the government may default on its financial obligations. There are two questions every intelligent person must ask, be the person a politician, pundit, professor, or citizen. One question is what is our independent estimate of the damage that could occur if we do not raise the ceiling. The second question is the possible damage that could occur if we go along with the Democrats and raise the ceiling.
Regarding the first question, I find it hard to imagine a default. When a corporation is faced with financial difficulties, it lays off workers. The government is in essence a corporation. A responsible government will lay off hundreds of thousands of government workers. We must pay our obligations first, and pay government workers’ salaries only if we have the money. A thinking person cannot accept the statement that not raising the ceiling will result in default.
The second question we must ask is what are the possible, if rare, dangers to America if we actually follow Obama’s recommendations and raise the debt ceiling. The question is what are the possibilities that America will become a dictatorship and cease being a democracy. Look at examples of other countries. Recently I spoke to some Venezuela citizens. They told me that prior to Chavez there was plenty of food on store shelves. Today the shelves are empty. Chavez promised to get rid of corruption and stuff, and so the people voted for him.
Young people think they will live forever, and so are not careful in doing dangerous things. Older and wiser people are aware of the realities of accidents, disease, and death. In a similar fashion, our country is young, and we feel that our democratic republic will last forever. Wiser people fear the danger of America collapsing into a tyranny.
People urge Republicans to compromise. They fail to ask what are the possible, if rare, dangers to America if they compromise. The dangers may be so great, even if improbable, that Republicans should fight to the finish with no compromise.
Our national failure to ask questions is identical to a sick person failing to ask the doctor the proper questions. Many people die because they did not ask questions. Is America doomed to fail because we fail to ask the proper questions?
We must be rational in order to survive. See the new book Rational Thinking, Government Policies, Science, and Living. Rational thinking starts with clearly stated principles, continues with logical deductions, and then examines empirical evidence to possibly modify the principles.
Semantics obscure the fiscal reality of our condition. The taxes paid since FDR were not set aside into an income-bearing account, and neither were the Medicare taxes since LBJ; these sources of income were spent as received. The US Treasury website is the only source of the plain truth, monies received and monies paid out. The receipts and disbursements are posted by category, monthly (and the yearly report is sent out with the IRS instructions for form 1099). The revenues the last month I checked, March, 2011, Medicare, Medicaid and SS added together = 93% of total receipts. AND, that does not include the interest on the debt, which is a top priority expense. We are no different from Greece.
Typo in my comment. The revenues for Medicare, etc should have read the disbursements to….In other words, all the monies received except 7% went to these entitlements as checks.
We really can cut 1.3 T in a single year. There would absolutely be a negative impact near term, as those unemployed by the move would add to job seekers. But the right stewardship would bring private investment, now waiting on the sidelines in fear, back in. If you’re backed right up against the limit, it won’t be possible to avoid raising the limit, but I think she understands that. It will take more than a year to unwind promises already made. Here today, cut tomorrow doesn’t exist for a behemouth like the Fed.
Her point is being made. It appeals to all of us looking for someone with a cast iron pair of …..courage and principle. She stated on O’Reilly what it would take to get her vote. Extreme cuts. On the order of 1T/yr and defunding Pelosicare. Cut, Cap, and Balance only takes spending back to 2007 levels. And the Gubmint was LOADED with waste even then!
She is good – best of the bunch so far. The office does change most people. But perhaps she is made of stronger stuff and can get us back onto the road of sanity.
Half a brain?
– 1984 Mondale – Had a half, the other half was asleep.
– 1894 Reagan – Less than a full brain. After all, he believed the Dems would cut spending if he went along with them and raised taxes.
– 1988 Dukakis – Ditto Mondale
– 1988 Bush Sr. – At least half a brain, no guts.
– 1988 Jackson – 1/10 a brain, the rest on race scamming.
– 1992 Clinton (liar) – Half a brain, the other half used for looking for interns and prepping the lies.
– 1996 Clinton (pervert) – ditto
– 1996 Dole – See mondale, but sleepier.
– 2000 Gore – No brain and has the grades to prove it.
– 2000 Bush Jr. – 3/4 brain, the other 1/4 set on “Spend.”
– 2004 Dean – No brain, but a lot of DNC boilerplate and a mighty shout. .
– 2004 Kerry – No brain, but he married rich. Does that count?
– 2004 Bush – Half a brain (yeah, he lost some,) but getting a bit mushy from signing Dem bills. The other half still set on “Spend.”
– 2008 McCain – Maybe half a brain, but a soft and squishy half, and no fight. Palin as Veep was his best decision.
– 2008 Kucinich – Half a brain, but the other half is out there. Somewhere.
– 2008 Clinton (female allegedly) – Plenty of brain if it wasn’t for that darn Vast Right Wing Conspiracy and the Obama camp.
– 2008 Dr. Utopia – Tiny brain, but smarter than Gore. After all, this guy successfully hid his grades AND concocted an impenetrable media shield.
– 2008 – the American Voter, 1/4 brain. A little more than half of us (who bothered to vote) voted for Obama and the rest let McCain be the opposition.
“- 2008 – the American Voter, 1/4 brain. A little more than half of us (who bothered to vote) voted for Obama and the rest let McCain be the opposition.”
Yes! I can’t believe I left them out.
Well to be fair the 52+ % that voted for Dumbo.
Minus Illegal aliens, dead and multiple voters, he probably got a shade over 50%.
Considering what the public schools have done to the average ‘hood, I’m almost surprised it was so low.
The more I see her and hear what she has to say, the more I like her.
Probably as stupid as any of the others- note no mention of what she’d do so she’d have the same corrupt limits as the others.
If she won’t increase the debt limit then how is she quickly going to make payments that are needed in the short term?
Classroom dunces can’t shut up.
Sorry Steve but AndyW is correct on this.
The US spending is out of control and something has to be done. Note I said “spending is out of control” not revenue. Spending must be slashed but we can’t cut 1.3 trillion (the last figure I saw) in one year. I wish we could but we can’t. It’s as simple as that.
I like the Republicans “Cut Cap and Balance” bill. It has no chance of becoming legislature but it provides a great platform to run on and cover when Obama and the press try to blame the debt ceiling on Republicans. It also helps to push those Republicans still providing lip service to the Tea Party into joining the fold. November 2010 was almost 8 months ago. They need reminding that they can live with the Tea Party or lose in a primary.
The bottom line is there is no quick solution. I’m interested in Bachman. I’m a Cain fan but I don’t like his chances. I will vote for Romney in November if I have to but I’m afraid he won’t be any better then Bush fiscally. That’s sad since I voted for him in the 2008 primary but my opinions have changed.
Honestly, we can (& should) cut around 2.2 trillion.
Public education: a massive waste of money that enables child molesters (at around 100x the rate of the supposedly terrible Roman Catholic Church).
Federal Highway funds: Since the federal government is paying the states to maintain roads by taking money from the states, let’s cut out the middle man. Also, the roads that I use 99% of the time are payed for from the sales tax that I pay when I buy things, the property tax my landlord pays (out of the rent I kindly donate to him), and (duh) the few gallons of gasoline I buy when I actually have to use the car a couple times a month.
Post roads: I doubt the mail would get here any slower if the FedGov maintained a set of dirt tracks that horses could use between major cities. Comcast & Verizon might stop sending me ads for their overpriced garbage, though.
Defense: Ah, something that actually is in the US Constitution. We might want to end at least one of the five wars Obama is fighting for us. Also, we still have troops in Bosnia.
NEA: No. Just no.
Everything else (especially SS, Medicare, Medicaid): Let the people that believe in these insane schemes pay for them. We put them to a direct vote. The only way you’re allowed to be counted as voting “yea” is to sign your name to a check equal to at least your percentage of the revenue needed to support these programs. If you have received any government largess over the past year, that entire amount must be added to the same check. If the check bounces, your vote is tallied as a “nay” and you’re jailed for fraud.
I somehow don’t think my bank manager would see things quite this way. Maybe he would suggest I spend less. Why is this such a difficult thing for politicians to understand?
Finally have to disagree with Steve. I offer empirical evidence too.
These candidates all have half a brain (or less) …
– 1984 Mondale
– 1988 Dukakis
– 1988 Jackson
– 1992 Clinton (liar)
– 1996 Clinton (pervert)
– 1996 Dole
– 2000 Gore
– 2004 Dean
– 2004 Kerry
– 2008 McCain
– 2008 Kucinich
– 2008 Clinton (female allegedly)
– 2008 Hussein
To name but a few.
I know it’s poor form to mention members not in attendance, but I’m shocked none of our slightly-less-than-enthusiastic-about-a-certain-political-party commentariat have tried to claim that Palin ran for president in 2008 yet. 😉
Sean Ogilvey sez
“Spending must be slashed but we can’t cut 1.3 trillion (the last figure I saw) in one year. I wish we could but we can’t. ”
Barry and the Democrat congress ADDED that much to spending in a year – so I don’t see why another President with a committed Congress could not undo this mess just as quickly.
Give BHO credit (with a h/t to Saul Alinsky). He knew that if he could accelerate gummint spending through “crises”, new entitlements, and any other means, it would be darned difficult to roll back.
But it can be done . . . because it MUST be done.
I like Bachman in a personal sense, I agree with her views on the importance of adhering to the concepts of our constitution, but she is not Presidential material in today’s society. Sadly, we live in a world dominated by marketing, and candidtates must have that ‘it’ factor or they will be steamrolled by their opponent.
Romney knows this and also knows that politcal gamesmanship is required to win Presidential elections today. He ticked me off when he pandered to the warmists, has since somewhat redeemed himself and IMO would be the best shot at defeating Barry.
Bachman as VP? I fear it would be another Palin repeat and do nothing but raise ratings for SNL. True conservatives cannot and will not get an honest vetting from our media.
If a doctor recommends a procedure to address a serious health issue, the patient must ask several important questions. One is what is a possible, if rare, bad consequence. Failure to ask is a failure to take proper personal responsibility for one’s health. Examples of bad consequences could be severe permanent crippling pain.
Likewise on the national level. When the government proposes a course of action to address a serious problem, citizens must ask several important questions. One question is to ask what could tragically happen if we follow the government’s proposal. An example is the loss of our democracy and the conversion of our country into a dictatorship and tyranny. Very few of our national leaders, nor any of our media pundits or university professors, discusses this. This means American citizens are negligent in the citizen’s responsibility for national health.
The current discussion on the debt ceiling is a clear example of our national failure for rational thinking and questioning. Obama said we must raise the ceiling or else the government may default on its financial obligations. There are two questions every intelligent person must ask, be the person a politician, pundit, professor, or citizen. One question is what is our independent estimate of the damage that could occur if we do not raise the ceiling. The second question is the possible damage that could occur if we go along with the Democrats and raise the ceiling.
Regarding the first question, I find it hard to imagine a default. When a corporation is faced with financial difficulties, it lays off workers. The government is in essence a corporation. A responsible government will lay off hundreds of thousands of government workers. We must pay our obligations first, and pay government workers’ salaries only if we have the money. A thinking person cannot accept the statement that not raising the ceiling will result in default.
The second question we must ask is what are the possible, if rare, dangers to America if we actually follow Obama’s recommendations and raise the debt ceiling. The question is what are the possibilities that America will become a dictatorship and cease being a democracy. Look at examples of other countries. Recently I spoke to some Venezuela citizens. They told me that prior to Chavez there was plenty of food on store shelves. Today the shelves are empty. Chavez promised to get rid of corruption and stuff, and so the people voted for him.
Young people think they will live forever, and so are not careful in doing dangerous things. Older and wiser people are aware of the realities of accidents, disease, and death. In a similar fashion, our country is young, and we feel that our democratic republic will last forever. Wiser people fear the danger of America collapsing into a tyranny.
People urge Republicans to compromise. They fail to ask what are the possible, if rare, dangers to America if they compromise. The dangers may be so great, even if improbable, that Republicans should fight to the finish with no compromise.
Our national failure to ask questions is identical to a sick person failing to ask the doctor the proper questions. Many people die because they did not ask questions. Is America doomed to fail because we fail to ask the proper questions?
We must be rational in order to survive. See the new book Rational Thinking, Government Policies, Science, and Living. Rational thinking starts with clearly stated principles, continues with logical deductions, and then examines empirical evidence to possibly modify the principles.
Semantics obscure the fiscal reality of our condition. The taxes paid since FDR were not set aside into an income-bearing account, and neither were the Medicare taxes since LBJ; these sources of income were spent as received. The US Treasury website is the only source of the plain truth, monies received and monies paid out. The receipts and disbursements are posted by category, monthly (and the yearly report is sent out with the IRS instructions for form 1099). The revenues the last month I checked, March, 2011, Medicare, Medicaid and SS added together = 93% of total receipts. AND, that does not include the interest on the debt, which is a top priority expense. We are no different from Greece.
Typo in my comment. The revenues for Medicare, etc should have read the disbursements to….In other words, all the monies received except 7% went to these entitlements as checks.
We really can cut 1.3 T in a single year. There would absolutely be a negative impact near term, as those unemployed by the move would add to job seekers. But the right stewardship would bring private investment, now waiting on the sidelines in fear, back in. If you’re backed right up against the limit, it won’t be possible to avoid raising the limit, but I think she understands that. It will take more than a year to unwind promises already made. Here today, cut tomorrow doesn’t exist for a behemouth like the Fed.
Her point is being made. It appeals to all of us looking for someone with a cast iron pair of …..courage and principle. She stated on O’Reilly what it would take to get her vote. Extreme cuts. On the order of 1T/yr and defunding Pelosicare. Cut, Cap, and Balance only takes spending back to 2007 levels. And the Gubmint was LOADED with waste even then!
Oh, and I forgot to mention that I love her.
She is good – best of the bunch so far. The office does change most people. But perhaps she is made of stronger stuff and can get us back onto the road of sanity.
Half a brain?
– 1984 Mondale – Had a half, the other half was asleep.
– 1894 Reagan – Less than a full brain. After all, he believed the Dems would cut spending if he went along with them and raised taxes.
– 1988 Dukakis – Ditto Mondale
– 1988 Bush Sr. – At least half a brain, no guts.
– 1988 Jackson – 1/10 a brain, the rest on race scamming.
– 1992 Clinton (liar) – Half a brain, the other half used for looking for interns and prepping the lies.
– 1996 Clinton (pervert) – ditto
– 1996 Dole – See mondale, but sleepier.
– 2000 Gore – No brain and has the grades to prove it.
– 2000 Bush Jr. – 3/4 brain, the other 1/4 set on “Spend.”
– 2004 Dean – No brain, but a lot of DNC boilerplate and a mighty shout. .
– 2004 Kerry – No brain, but he married rich. Does that count?
– 2004 Bush – Half a brain (yeah, he lost some,) but getting a bit mushy from signing Dem bills. The other half still set on “Spend.”
– 2008 McCain – Maybe half a brain, but a soft and squishy half, and no fight. Palin as Veep was his best decision.
– 2008 Kucinich – Half a brain, but the other half is out there. Somewhere.
– 2008 Clinton (female allegedly) – Plenty of brain if it wasn’t for that darn Vast Right Wing Conspiracy and the Obama camp.
– 2008 Dr. Utopia – Tiny brain, but smarter than Gore. After all, this guy successfully hid his grades AND concocted an impenetrable media shield.
– 2008 – the American Voter, 1/4 brain. A little more than half of us (who bothered to vote) voted for Obama and the rest let McCain be the opposition.
Yes! I can’t believe I left them out.
Well to be fair the 52+ % that voted for Dumbo.
Minus Illegal aliens, dead and multiple voters, he probably got a shade over 50%.
Considering what the public schools have done to the average ‘hood, I’m almost surprised it was so low.
He’s toast next time, probably 47% to 49%.
Let’s just pray it is not Romney against him.
With explanations like that Greg, who can argue! 😉