Ronald Reagan said :
The problem with liberals isn’t so much that they are ignorant, it is that they know so many things that aren’t so.
Like this guy, who is making up statistics about things he knows nothing about.
During the winter of 1977, it was snowing in Florida and warm and raining in Alaska.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=rwEhk56xNqMC&dat=19770119&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
It was raining in Anchorage in December, 2002 – which happens about once every ten years according to the National Weather Service.
Progressives simply make up nonsensical pieces of information, and then declare themselves to be superior based on their dishonesty and ignorance.
When called out for his lying, look how he responded. No apology or regret, he simply shifts to a different mindless attack. These are the people who are currently running this country.
What must it be like to have a mental disorder.
Ask any leftist.
What are Progressives?
Neo-Luddites whose leaders want us to return to a feudal system with them as lords.
Progressives in their own words:
“It is a campaign not for abundance but for austerity. It is a campaign not for more freedom but for less. Strangest of all, it is a campaign not just against other people, but against ourselves.” -George Monbiot, UK Ecojournalist
“Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control.” – Professor Maurice King
“A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” – Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor
Here is what they believe in:
http://green-agenda.com/
“Progressives” are the sort of people who will argue black is white to oppose the execution of serial sadistic child rapist/murderers due to it might infringe their Yuman Rites, but wholeheartedly support a woman’s right to murder an infant not for any valid medical reason, but purely because she couldn’t be bothered to keep their legs crossed.
Google Fabians. Their coat of arms is serious. They really mean to smash and re-assemble. The “progression” of which they speak is the advancement to a new species of mankind, themselves, after disposal of their predecessors, us. Eugenics was/is one of their core principles.
Progressives are dyed in the wool (sheep) leftists. Do not confuse them with liberals, who founded our country.
I leant something, never heard of that syndrome before. On google I liked the sentence “a man who robbed two banks after covering his face with lemon juice in the mistaken belief that it would prevent his face from being recorded on surveillance cameras”
Steve, you definitely do not suffer from that. Just a slight obsession and biased viewpoint, hence all the time you spend on this subject. 🙂
Andy
I’m trying to remember if you have ever said anything intelligent here?
And, you appear to have a very good memory….
Viewpoints are biased by definition, nutso. Perhaps in your case you are so open as to be vacant. If Steve has misrepresented something, call him on it instead of these generalized smears.
Mr. LeftisRight sounds like someone with a degree in Art History, or maybe English. He argues using fierce sounding words, but no science. His belief system is grounded in the beliefs of others; nothing he was capable of determining on his own.
Yes, he is apparently just learning the troll business, probably a trainee. He has the vitriol and the mis-information working for him, but to be really funny, he needs to try to sound like a knowledge scientist, tossing around words like “thermodynamics”, “Rossby waves”, and “infrared”. A typical example “My cat ate so much thermodynamics that the Rossby waves caused my infrared to turn blue.” (From the Troll 101 textbook.)
He tossed around Dunning-Kruger syndrome, which is found in one of the early chapters in the Troll 101 textbook. He should drop “do you still have your timecard from Heartland Institute” from his material though. Not clever. Nobody even takes their timecards home with them so it’s just stupid.
When grading the troll’s harangue would you tend to give him a better or worse grade based on his omission of the Koch Bros?
That was a relief, as well as omitting Fox News and ExxonMobil, but I really miss the overuse of the term peer-reviewed
Long, long ago on a long-gone site, I was awarded the pink belt in Trolljitsu by a site admin…
Trolljitsu was some wag’s scale of one’s skill in raising the hackles of the site’s trolls and keeping them frothing at the mouth, whilst demonstrating your calm, cool demeanor….
Fun times there…..
+1
It is amazing how so many people are like religious fanatics. They willfully dismiss evidence, data and facts that are inconvenient to their beliefs and are willing to base their beliefs on some obscure piece of anecdotal information that they heard but never fact checked.
I was schooled by professors who tried to trick students as a teaching method so that students learned that you can’t just assume that people in positions of authority are accurate or honest. I have no idea what schools teach today but I am amazed how many people on the internet present themselves as mindless fanatics programmed with an emotionally charged belief system unsupported by facts.
John Dewey, a founding member of the American Fabian Society is often called the father of American Education. In 1892 John D. Rockefeller gave money to the University of Chicago to start a department of philosophy, psychology and education In 1894, Dewey was appointed head of the department and he created his famous experimental Laboratory School where he could test the effects of his new educational psychology on real live children.
The goal of his new teaching methods was not to turn out individuals with inquiring minds but good little
serfssocialists. …the greatest obstacle to socialism was the private mind that seeks knowledge in order to exercise its own private judgment and intellectual authority. High literacy gave the individual the means to seek knowledge independently. It gave individuals the means to stand on their own two feet and think for themselves. This was detrimental to the “social spirit” needed to bring about a collectivist society.As a result of Dewey’s system 19 % of high school graduates can’t read. 32 Million adult Americans can not read and 21 % of U.S. adults read below a 5th grade level. These people vote…. (Stalin tried Dewey’s Progressive Education System in the USSR and then tossed it as useless.)
This explains why the US schools system stinks and gets worse each year..
DNFTT. It just makes them happy, and encourages them to troll some more.
I have also noticed a pattern where these fanatical types fall into the psychological traps of projection and transference of their own shortcomings onto those who disagree with them. When they are shown to be wrong on the facts they respond emotionally by claiming that everyone else is stupid. They must have never taken courses in logic or psychology, but they are a great source of humor.
“When they are shown to be wrong on the facts they respond emotionally by claiming that everyone else is stupid. ”
Very true — and it still surprises me. Consider this case as an example: OK, LeftisRight is obviously not stupid. Ignorant and misguided, lacking information, sure — but not stupid. His sentence structure and grammar seem to be that of a person with some intelligence and education. And yet, when he is shown exactly and specifically where he has made a clearly incorrect statement, his response is like that of a spoiled third grader. “Nyah, nyah, nyah! Heartland! Google University!” What, does he think that sceptics go back and alter decades old newspaper articles? Does he think that Steven has a time machine?! I guess he must… But any rational thinker, anyone who actually has a desire to know the truth would, at an absolute minimum, have responded “Ouch! Sorry, I was wrong. Thanks for the more accurate information.”
If LeftisRight were stupid, well, it would be easier to forgive his mistakes and bad manners. But he is not. He is just too lazy to do the hard work of being rational. Sad to say, he is wasting a potentially good human mind.
No he has an agenda and according to Alinsky’s rules for radicals you never let the facts make you deviate from the agenda. What he does not realize is that he is a puppet for the Queens and Bankers who trained him and set the agenda.
The Warmists, thanks to Progressive Education, actually do live in an alternate universe at least when it comes to their method of reasoning.
This is why there is so much emphasis placed on ‘Consensus’ – In other words if I wish real hard and click my heels three time it is TRUE! (And since I control the scientific data bases I can change the data to meet my fantasy.)
Of course this philosophy is only for the rank and file. The elite ‘Socialists’, the bankers, corporate CEOs and politicians, use the philosophy to control the minds of the rank and file just as the old feudal kings used the church to control the serfs and Aristocracy.
Since the American revolutionists up-set that applecart and forbid a state religion ‘Socialism/Communism’ was resurrected. (See The Great Thanksgiving Hoax for the death of the idea of socialism as a legitimate method of governance and economics. It flunked the reality test big time.)
‘Environmentalism’ has become the new religion. This is why there are attacks on Christians because the old religion has got to be discredited to make way for the new. Maurice Strong (senior Advisor World Bank and Rockefeller Foundation Trustee) is building that new religion. The Aspen Institute was founded in 1949, by Fabians, Aldous Huxley, and John Maynard Hutchins and has been working to establish the ‘New Religion’ ever since. (see (wwwDOT)bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalization37.htm )
This new religion of Environmentalism is what is supposed to give ‘Legitimacy’ to the new ‘Planatary Regime’ as John Holdern called it. You can see it in Pascal Lamy’s writing where he talks of “The reality is that, so far, we have largely failed to articulate a clear and compelling vision of why a new global order matters — and where the world should be headed.” and “the specific challenge of legitimacy in global governance”
They really are working very very hard to get us to give up our National Sovereignty and put a faceless bureaucracy in charge instead aren’t they?
You can also see the concept throughout Ged Davis’s IPCC-SRES Zero Order Draft on storylines and scenarios.
As I said before Ged Davis was a VP of Shell Oil. Another member of the IPCC scenario team Doug McKay was also a Shell oil ex and a Senior Financial Analyst with the World Bank.
Gobs of Shell Oil stock is held by The Rothschild Investment Trust – (Rockefellers and Rothschilds) the Dutch Royal family and the Queen of England.
Prince Bernhard of the Dutch Royal Family is the Founding President of the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) and HRH The Duke of Edinburgh served as International President of WWF for 16 years.
John H. Loudon, headed Royal Dutch Shell from 1951 to 1965 and he was then President of WWF from 1976 to 1981.
Gets positivelly incestuous doesn’t it?
The Rockefellers (Chase Bank) has close ties t the World Bank. Three presidents, John J. McCloy, Eugene Black and George Woods all worked at Chase before before moving to the World Bank. A fourth president, James D. Wolfensohn, served as a director of the Rockefeller Foundation. Robert Watson a World Bank Employee was IPCC chair.
A bit of history on the International Bankers
(wwwDOT)articlesbase.com/finance-articles/jp-morgan-chase-buyout-of-bear-stearns-a-trillionaires-delight-400359.html
Hey Gail, you say “The main way of instilling obedience, however, was propaganda.”
Very true — but in the last century or so we are seeing another very powerful tool being brought into play for controlling the human race. Have you ever considered the difference between a wolf and a domesticated dog? A dog is very much a wolf that never psychologically outgrows puppyhood. A dog’s owner is both master and parent. The creation of modern school systems is an attempt to domesticate humans by training them to be subservient and to never take the full self-responsibility of adulthood and freedom. Stand when teacher says, walk when teacher says, the truth is what teacher tells you, let teacher make any important decisions. For the brighter student, send him to university for 4 or 6 years more programming in obeying what the system commands. Once this pattern is deeply ingrained it is safe to turn people loose into a society where Big Brother is now their Big Daddy and Big Momma as well. I know a man who is a 70 year old child (and yes, he is a text book “Progressive”.)
Jason Calley says….
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Oh, I hear you. That is what progressive education is all about and now Common Core education. (If you do not home school your kid ‘Right’ you don’t get to be his parent.)
One of the interesting tie-ins is Feminism. (It ties back to Rockefeller.) SEE: The Hand that Rocked the Cradle: A Critical Analysis of Rockefeller Philanthropic Funding, 1920-1960 library(DOT)queensu.ca/ojs/index.php/edu_hse-rhe/article/view/434/581
Feminism had several things going for it.
1. It weakened the family structure. Mom wasn’t home to take care of her kids or the elderly. She didn’t have time to keep up with the relatives visit neighbors and everything else that goes into building a self sustaining community.
2. The state through daycare took over early childhood training. To make sure of this the Socialists staged the Daycare Child Abuse Scam and scared parents into accepting the regulation of daycare.
SEE: The Fells Acres Nightmare and The “Little Rascals” ritual abuse case in Edenton, NC
You can read the PBS spin on the cases here: (wwwDOT)pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/innocence/etc/other.html
3. With a two person income family the state (and Bankers) could extract more wealth. You pay taxes on a salad from McFoo Burgers you pay nothing for a salad made from your garden.
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Another interesting tie-in is discipline. “Spare the Rod and Spoil the Child” gave way to bribe the child and if you dare to touch him you go to jail. Added to that was the wrap the child in cotton batting philosophy – make the enviorment ‘Child safe’ by rule of law. All this combined to teach children there was no cause and effect link.
Of course this means you have unruly children in schools. No problem DRUG THEM.
I do not think it is any coincidence that the children drugged are mainly white males.
Or that Ritilin causes brain damage: Ritalin: Brain-Damage Evidence For Amphetamines
And since the Fabians are also very pro-eugenics you can add in DNA testing.
USA: Newborn DNA Banking “Today it is increasingly common for states to hold onto these samples for years, even permanently. Some states also use the samples for unrelated purposes, such as in scientific research, and give access to the samples to others.” (wwwDOT)aclu.org/free-speech-technology-and-liberty-womens-rights/newborn-dna-banking
Of course if you want to match character to DNA you have to have further information about the person. So the Government is going after it.
The excuse for this invasion of privacy, there always is one, is to link people to unsolved crimes.
Beginning to feel a bit like Monsanto’s GMO pigs?
Leftist will almost NEVER concede to any countervailing fact in an argument. Leftist don’t care about winning an argument on the merits. Leftist only want to win by any mean necessary so that they can have their way.
That’s because they already know they are wrong.
If a record low number of people who smoked were getting lung cancer, that theory would also be flawed. But that is not the case. An apples vs. oranges comparison.
I have not gone back and actually looked at the smoking studies, but you have to be really careful because studies can be designed to intentionally LIE. This “study” on the Tea Party is a classic example of how to lie with statistics. It shows where all the lies printed in the MSM came from BTW: 2010 – Blair-Rockefeller poll – University of Arkansas
The questions that determined the Tea Party were ‘Racists’ all start with “Do you think it is the responsibility of the federal government to make sure that minorities”
These questions were carefully designed so answers are determined by the phrase “Federal Government” and not “minorities” and then the report states, not that the TEA Party wants a small federal government but that they are “Racist”
The headline for the article is even: Tea Party Distinguished by Racial Views and Fear of the Future – Findings from the Blair-Rockefeller poll
(And yes I specifically went hunting for this poll to see where the data came from that was reported in the MSM.)
I also look at some studies on “low Carb Diets’ that found no benefit. I found this strange because my health has really improved on a low carb diet. I try to stay under 30 grams of carbs a day. This includes starches as well as sugars. – (no bread, pasta, potatoes, corn, rice, beans, grain…)
One study I looked at defined “Low carb’ = 300 grams a day – WTF!
I can not find that study but here is another:
and another:
20% of the diet as carbs is reduced??? I would go into insulin shock if I ate that much sugar/starch!
Unfortunately what these studies show is the entire Academic/Scientific establishment in the USA is riddled with rot and not just Climatology.
Problem most liberals have is exactly what Regain said.
The facts are the facts.
But that has never stopped the uninformed who believe they are informed.
Even if they are, , they ignore fact and listen only to what they and others FEEL.
The falsehood of the preached climate change is a right as saying that 2 plus 2 equals 5…just because you feel it should.
To quote another President (Lincoln): “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”
I actually believe that Mr “Leftis Right” was a part of the D-K study.
“…Dunning and Kruger proposed that, for a given skill, incompetent people will:
1. tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
2. fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
3. fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;
4. recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill, if they are exposed to training for that skill…”
Who here has not attempted conversation with the CAGW enthusiast who did not know the difference between Fahrenheit or Celsius, floating sea ice or glacier — the sort of enthusiast who, no matter what facts or data you give him, responds, “yes, but 98% of all scientists say climate change is REAL!”
PALEEEZE…
I got stuck in Church with a nice lady who tried to explain to me that Global Warming was causing the very cold snowy weather we were having…
I wish it would warm. Earth’s Hot House mode is quite benign. The Ice Box mode, on the other hand, produces all the disasters warming is accused of (storms, floods, droughts, etc.)
30 degrees in Perth and awesome!
That’s Celsius guys, Celsius!!!
Toughen up yanks! 😀
Finally we get some help,…from the IPCC: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/03/26/Global-warming-will-not-cost-the-earth-leaked-IPCC-report-admits
And what happens f the President stops speaking and nobody claps? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-26/what-happens-if-us-president-stops-speaking-and-nobody-claps
In my book this means nobody takes him serious anymore.
Watch a dead duck walking.
But watch it, he still controls the the BIG BUTTON.