Gavin is playing his usual game, trying to cover his ass with “uncertainty” that wasn’t mentioned in the NASA press release.
They get the propaganda out there for the White House and major news outlets, then try to generate implausible deniability through back channels like twitter. None of this was mentioned in the NASA press release.
http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/GavinSchmit-150×110.jpg
He even looks like an evil professor.
Unfortunately unlike Mikey Mann the guy is not dumb.
He has been living off the public dole longer.
This clip should follow and haunt Schmidthead to the end of his days, it should be mandatory viewing for all citizens, and especially politicians. The money shot starts at 1:48.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V96k4BO2sBw
NASA AND THE CATTEL MUST COOPERATE TOGETHER, THIS IS WERE THE MEETING OF THE MINDS REALLY DOES MATTER:
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/01/17/obama-wants-cows-fart-lessgood-luck/
This explains what is actually behind the cow fart idiocy. Link
2014 is only 48% certain of being hottest on record? Well, that was fun while it lasted.
We’ll have to wait until after the State of the Union address when the temperatures get adjusted downward so that the “scientific” result was a “correction” on the temperature rankings, but the political propaganda for the State of the Union address will have been complete.
So NOAA says there’s a less than 50% chance that 2014 was the hottest year on record, and NASA says it’s less than 40%. And these “odds” aren’t in the press releases?
SMH.
It is high time that we demand that government be legally held to the same standards that they demand of us.
“When consumers see or hear an advertisement, whether it’s on the Internet, radio or television, or anywhere else, federal law says that ad must be truthful, not misleading, and, when appropriate, backed by scientific evidence.”
http://www.ftc.gov/news-events/media-resources/truth-advertising
Even the WMO admit you cannot make “hottest year” claims without allowing for uncertainty.
This was from their report on 2006:
All temperature values have uncertainties, which arise mainly from gaps in data coverage. The size of the uncertainties is such that the global average temperature for 2006 is statistically indistinguishable from, and could be anywhere between, the first and the eighth warmest year on record.”
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2015/01/17/wmo-demolish-noaanasa-claims-of-hottest-year/
According to NOAA definitions, global surface temperatures for 2014 were “More Unlikely Than Likely” the highest on record, but they failed to note that on the main page of their State of the Climate report.
Found in http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/01/17/on-the-biases-caused-by-omissions-in-the-2014-noaa-state-of-the-climate-report/
So we see a full court press going on right now with obvious collusion between the press, the government, and some “scientists” to get around the FACT there has been no appreciable temperature trend in the last 18+ years and nothing they have said would happen has. And it all comes just before the President gives his State of the Union address. Cover for the new EPA regs that will directly effect a lot of the population? Attempt to put the Republican congress on the defensive over Keystone and possibly de-funding the green energy scam? Prep for Paris next fall? I suspect that there is something else coming. Something we don’t know about yet. Perhaps another unconstitutional move by the president having to do with environmental policy?
Anyway it goes only the disengaged, dishonest, and the pneumocephalic can possibly be gullible enough to NOT SEE the obvious over the top PR campaign on climate/environmental issues that going on right now.
I wonder if Branch Carbonians will jack up the thermostat for the SOTU.
Luv “Branch Carbonians”
They don’t have to. Their frontman is a professional who can sweat on command for the cameras.
Seems like there are a lot of gullible, disengaged, dishonest, and pneumocephalic (whatever that is) people in the world and country, they even marched in New York in protest to us “deniers”. Just an expression of mob ignorance and fear fanned by power hungry people who promise to protect us from our own foibles, if we would just give them the power, and we do. Yes we do.
http://walker-ministries.org/presbyterian-church-and-arab-palestinian-group-rewriting-the-bible-to-remove-references-to-israel/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumocephalus
Notice that the NOAA and NASA probabilities of warmest year on Gavin’s chart sum to 90% and 82%, respectively. Where do you think the other 10% and 18% might fall? Surely the 1930’s and 1940’s. Conveniently omitted. The last thing a climate propagandist would want to do is to put into peoples’ minds that our warmest years in modern history might have been that far back.
A comment from Bob Koss on JoNova’s
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Don’t believe the record temperatures.
I ran a file comparator over both the unadjusted and adjusted files GHCN produces for both the 15th and 16th of Jan.
Between the Jan 15th and 16th they added no new usable data to the GHCN unadjusted file. There were 3 months of data added for 2014, but they were all immediately marked defective.
To build their adjusted file they start with the cleaned(no defects) unadjusted data. Since that didn’t change, their adjusted file should have stayed the same for both the 15th and 16th. It didn’t. They changed 18656 lines on the 16th. Over 200,000 months of data. Those figures are since the 19th century. All changes were in the US, Canada, Mexico and the Bahamas. Nowhere else. You Aussies didn’t even make it to the finals. 🙂
GISS also uses the GHCN adjusted data, so they can’t claim independence.
They have been busy beavers since at least the 6th of Jan. removing and inserting data all over the world. Pretty sure you were included in the preliminary rounds.
{unquote}
Does the New York Slimes really want it colder? Blimey! Does Gavin? Nuts!
Gavin is a worthy adversary. May need to break down and open a tweeter account. Not that he would actually engage, but he might read before he deletes…
Would you have a link to the actual NASA report with the .38 probability ?
I have a bar buddy who is an EPA physicist and hang out online with a University phisicist… To make the argument to them I need NASA’s actual report.
I found noaa, but have found nasa’s on line yet
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/briefings/201501.pdf
I know it is not polite to boo during the SOTU. Is it acceptable for elected reps to make and hold up small signs when pinnochio shows up? Say— NOAA 48% NASA 38% 0.02C +-0.10 Not really!
graphs of tornadoes, hurricanes etc. a recent drought map? This would all be caught on camera, and the press would have to investigate. Hell- Americans should watch some the fights in parliament just for fun.
I take it you weren’t on the call either Tony? Have you by any chance seen this press briefing?http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/briefings/201501.pdf
I’m amazed you have the gall to show up around here, after saying I should be jailed for accurately reporting and predicting Arctic ice.
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/icecover/icecover_current_new.png
Pathetic and quite psychotic Jim. And the NASA press release said nothing about uncertainty or satellites.
http://www.nasa.gov/press/2015/january/nasa-determines-2014-warmest-year-in-modern-record/
World class wanker
I’ll take that as a no then.
Since you mention it, how did your 2014 Arctic sea ice predictions work out in the end?
Almost spot on
https://i0.wp.com/ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/icecover/icecover_current_new.png
Hey, Jim,
You want Tony arrested. Guess what I want YOU up on trial for accessory BEFORE the fact to several thousand counts of Murder I.
Have a nice evening
Re: Gail Combs says:
January 19, 2015 at 3:27 am
Nice to meet you again too Gail.
Needless to say I didn’t actually say any such thing. I do however admit to parodying one of Tony’s catchy titles.
Still the same Snow white. Gail, the one thing you have to know about Snow White is that he always lies! Indeed, that is his only consistency! Want to see?
Snow white, do you tell the truth?
IF THEY WANT TO PUT YOU IN JAIL FOR REPORTING ACCURATE INFORMATION, THEN THEY ARE THINKING LIKE A PROGRESSIVE. PROGRESSIVE IS A VERY MILD TERMINOLOGY FOR COMMUNIST. THEY HIDE BEHIND THE WORD PROGRESSIVE, WHEN THEY ARE REALLY COMMUNIST.
Actually Fabians not Communists.
Look up London School of Economics, “the real George Bernard Shaw” The Third Way, + Bill Clinton + Anthony Giddens, The Father of Modern Education, John Dewey, (founding member of the American branch) John Maynard Keynes, Huxely and UNESCO
Very GOOD: http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2014/06/the-socialist-capitalist-alliance.html
(wwwDOT)worldviewweekend.com/worldview-times/article.php?articleid=939
(wwwDOT)gutenberg.org/files/13715/13715-h/13715-h.htm
https://centurean2.wordpress.com/2011/03/20/fabian-john-maynard-keynes-the-stealthy-enemy-of-human-freedom/
(wwwDOT)keynesatharvard.org/book/KeynesatHarvard-ch10.html
http://julianhuxleyeugenics.blogspot.com/p/huxley-and-eugenics.html
Re: stevengoddard says:
January 19, 2015 at 3:07 am
“The NASA press release said nothing about uncertainty”
I didn’t say it did. I did however answer Daffy Dack’s question for him. What precisely is “pathetic and quite psychotic” about that?
OH, and I forgot “Evil Socialism” vs “Evil Capitalism”
THAT IS WHY I CONSIDER MYSELF A CITIZEN OF THE HEAVENS, AWAITING THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND THE RETURN OF JESUS CHRIST. THAT IS WHY THIS COUNTRY AND PLANET IS GOING TO HELL, BECAUSE WE HAVE FORSAKEN YAHVEH(GOD); THUS, WE ARE LEARNING LESSONS, AS HE IS BRINGING US INTO JUDGEMENT. YES, CLIMATE AND TEMPERATURES ARE ALSO UNDER HIS JURISDICTION, AND SO ARE INFINITE NUMBERS OF UNIVERSES.
Re: stevengoddard says:
January 19, 2015 at 3:22 am
That’ll teach me to get involved in debates about “the global warming pause”. I can feel another blog post or two coming on!
What do you make of this recent Arctic sea ice extent chart from your beloved DMI?
http://greatwhitecon.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/DMI-Old-2015-01-19.png
Sensor error. Happens quite often. maybe you should go blog about and call for people to be jailed.
No! NO! The world is coming to an end! Never mind that the satellites have gone off kilter many times before. Seems I remember a time that because of problems they missed an area of sea ice approaching the size of Alaska for weeks.
For once I agree with you, about the “sensor error” in the most recent 2015 data at least.
Actually I was wondering how that data justifies your “almost spot on” claim for 2014 above. See for example:
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/my-arctic-forecast-4/
“The minimum this summer will likely be close to the 2006 minimum, which was the highest minimum of the past decade.”
That’s not really how things turned out, is it?
THE DATA ON WEATHER AND CLIMATE (NASA AND NOAA) CAN BE COMPARED TO THE STOCK MARKET ON WALL STREET, MUCH CORRUPTION AND ALTERING. WE ARE NOT GUARANTEED A CERTAIN TEMPERATURE EVERYDAY; ALTHOUGH, THAT IS WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE US THINK, JUST BECAUSE OF SEASONS IN GENERAL.
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/2014-breaks-record-warmest-year-noaa-nasa-experts-say-n287551
That is exactly how it turned out.
Do you believe it was ice-free as Nobel Prize winner Al Gore predicted?
Did you bother to check how it turned out? Seems that prediction was on the money – unlike your posts.
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=30083
Re: futuret says:
January 19, 2015 at 5:24 pm
What do you make of this bullish channel?
http://greatwhitecon.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/there-is-no-pause.gif
Looks a lot like the beginning of this…
http://greatwhitecon.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/icecover_current_20140829.png
… posted by you, on your own site.
http://greatwhitecon.info/2014/08/is-arctic-sea-ice-extent-up-because-the-ice-is-thicker/
Re: stevengoddard says:
January 19, 2015 at 8:00 pm
Perhaps this chart is clearer?
http://greatwhitecon.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/NSIDC-Extent-2015-01-18.png
How do you define “exactly”, “likely” and “close”?
Regarding my views on Al Gore’s so called predictions, see:
http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2014/09/david-roses-apocalyptic-vision-of-al-gores-nobel-lecture/
In brief “Al Gore never ‘predicted’ that the Arctic would be ice-free by now!”
Last September 21, as the Northern Hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar ice cap is “falling off a cliff.” One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study, to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week, warns it could happen in as little as 7 years.
Seven years from now.
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2007/gore-lecture_en.html
Well, he didn’t say ’22 years from now’, did he? No, he emphasized the most alarmist position he could find.
You can weasel out of this by stating that Gore did not make the prediction ,but he sure as Hell quoted and emphasized it, over any and all other predictions. And in front of the Nobel committee and entire world at that!
So have you confronted Gore over the failed prediction he parroted in Oslo? When you do, you will have a modicum of credibility. Get busy.
https://papundits.wordpress.com/2015/01/19/how-these-green-companies-are-gouging-consumers-with-the-governments-help/
At the risk of repeating myself, “for the benefit of those who seem unable to understand either English or Mathematics a ‘projection’ is not the same thing as a ‘prediction'”
Getting back to Tony’s predictions, and using the NSIDC daily extent numbers for the moment, would you say that 4.98339 is “exactly” 5.74877? How about “close”?
Oh we are well aware that the IPCC had to switch from prediction to projection to cover their asses with Implausible Deniability.
The big list of failed climate predictions
No wonder the IPCC switched from prediction to projection!
https://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/far/wg_I/ipcc_far_wg_I_spm.pdf
You are projecting.
Do you expect him to understand his projection? 😉
At the risk of repeating myself, “for the benefit of those who seem unable to understand either Weasel or Mumbo Jumbo, Jim has not addressed the real problem.
Al Gore stood at a podium in Oslo, in front of the entire world, and parroted the most alarmist position possible regarding the Arctic ice he could find. Gore then reemphasized this fear mongering claim in the next breath, in front of the world and Nobel committee, and has never recanted.
Jimbo has never confronted Gore over this whopper of a ‘projection’, never will, and does not wish to. Why? Because hyperbole like that spewed by Gore in Oslo helps ‘the cause’. Jimbo is a zealot who only attacks those who disagree with him, and not those that tell whoppers on a world stage in support of a failed hypothesis.
19 years of no warming while CO2 levels increase. Over 60 excuses as to why. Zero credibility.
Jimmy baby, when you confront the real problem of exaggerated claims by alarmists, you can hold your head high, until then you are less than a useful idiot.
http://earthsky.org/earth/tides-and-the-pull-of-the-moon-and-sun?utm_source=EarthSky+News&utm_campaign=e39867abbd-EarthSky_News&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c643945d79-e39867abbd-393598529
Gator as I said when Jimmy Baby first reappeared he is a knowing accomplice to Murder.
I really really would like to see The ClimAstrologists and their enablers like Jimmy Baby here facing Nurenburg style trials for all the deaths they have KNOWINGLY caused.
In the UK alone the number of deaths:
For 2007-2008 was 27,480.
For 2008-2009 the 36,700.
In 2009/2010 there were 25,400
2010-2011 showed 25,700
2012-2013 there were 31,100
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TOTAL = 146,380 in five years.
Indur Goklany in looking at the daily death reports found excess winter deaths are more than triple the number killed on the road.
Then there is the Bio-fuel idiocy.
Over 9 million people die worldwide each year because of hunger and malnutrition. Of those over half are children with 5 million deaths. The food crisis of 2008 drove an additional 100 million people into poverty. Biofuels forced global food prices up by 75%—far more than previously estimated—according to a World Bank report. The USA supplies most of the export corn and a lot of the export grain. Over a third of US corn is now used to produce ethanol; about half of vegetable oils in the EU goes towards the production of biodiesel.
(Vegetable oils like Palm Oil that have caused the cutting down of rain forests.)
These are older graphs but show we are going backwards in providing food despite the fact enough is produced.
http://www.theoildrum.com/files/food_shares.png
http://www.theoildrum.com/files/death_rate_changes.png
Change in United Nations estimates of death rates and infant mortality rate for least developed regions over prior five year period 1950-2005. Source: United Nations: World Population Prospects, the 2004 Revision.
Weasel.
No, actually: infantile weasel.
Fraud at the Federal level is punishable by up to twenty years in jail. Hope your affairs are in order when they frog-march you through that door!
Actually, no, your chart is less clear. Steve’s has all the years and it is clear his prediction is correct. Yours does not. Nor does yours have a legible legend. Another snow white lie.
Have you by any chance tried clicking on my chart? Does that help at all?
At the risk of repeating myself, would you say that 4.98339 is “exactly” 5.74877? How about “close”?
What bearing does 2013’s minimum have on goddard’s prediction for 2014? Are you a half-wit in addition to being a mentally ill stalker & transvestite?
What bearing does 2014’s maximum have on 2014’s minimum?
Are you blind?
You seem to think that some random number you came up with has some bearing on the subject at hand. Hint: it’s why we think you’re mentally ill.
Of course they’re not random numbers. To save you the bother of doing your own research please feel free to take a look at:
http://greatwhitecon.info/2015/01/implausible-deniability-of-2014-arctic-sea-ice-predictions/#Table
Stark, it’s not about random numbers, it’s about random harassment. This clown takes no issue with ridiculous ‘projections’ delivered by alarmist zealots on a world stage, instead he haunts this site moaning about near misses.
But you are right about the mentally ill bit.
Dear Jim “Snow White, no really I’m a girl” Hunt:
All of your silly arguments are rebutted here (including cite notes to Peer Reviewed articles):
http://tinyurl.com/2fcpre6
Have you by chance tried to tell the truth? I realize you are merely trying to get us to click on your click bait, but then we are not as stupid as you. Hence why we see your feeble projection.
next time, bring your A team. Or do not lie about it. Now go play with your little ones snow white.
Re: gator69 says:
January 21, 2015 at 3:48 pm
The conversation about the non-random Arctic numbers has at last taken a statistical turn over at:
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/01/20/arctic-sea-ice-extent-continues-near-a-decadal-high/#comment-483567
I note that you are still dodging the question there too.
The only person dodging is you. Why haven’t you confronted Gore?
No need for anyone to dodge anything but you. Steve was are more correct in his predictions than you were in your projections. End of story!