In 2007, NASA’s Jay Zwally predicted that the screaming Arctic would be ice free by 2012.
More recently, he predicted that his findings of Antarctic ice gain would lead deniers to conclude that Antarctica is not contributing to sea level rise.
Anyone with an IQ over 30 will realize that ice gain in Antarctica, means a reduction in the amount of sea water. The law of conservation of mass have been well understood for hundreds of years. But climate scientists don’t fall into that category (IQ over 30) and are very angry about climate alchemy deniers.
O/T but very important!
Senator Mike Lee calls for a ruling by the Senate BEFORE Obama signs away our sovereignty! TIME to get on the phone and call, text, fax or e-mail your senator and tell him to insist Obama signs NO TREATY without approval by the senate.
http://dailysignal.com/2015/11/04/sen-mike-lee-congress-must-rule-before-obama-commits-to-unilateral-international-climate-change-plan/
WHY is this important?
IF a president signs a treaty OTHER countries consider it VALID. Therefore it completely depends on WHAT type of enforcement is contained within the treaty itself. For example the World Trade Organization (WTO) has TEETH!! The UN wants a Climate Court with enforcement powers so the Climate agreement also has TEETH!
Instead of the usual trade treaties for the first time a world organization, WTO, with tough sanction and enforcement powers, was formed. More important, decision making would be secret, with no oversight. The most vital issues of economic life on the planet were to be decided behind closed doors.
Under WTO rules, countries or Corporations can challenge another’s laws. The case is heard by a tribunal of three trade bureaucrats (corporate lawyers). There is no conflict of interest rules binding them, and the names of the judges are kept secret. There is no rule that the judges of WTO respect any national laws, the three judges meet in secret and all court documents are confidential and cannot be published.
I consider the WTO the trial run for ‘Global Governance’ since it overrides national sovereignty and allows the judges of WTO to overrule national laws.
DOES US LAW SUPERSEDE INTERNATIONAL LAW?
<bHowever under International Law the President of the United States can sign binding contracts with other Nations. These contracts are considered treaties under International Law and unless their unconstitutionality was manifestly obvious to the other nations at the time the treaty was contracted the United States is stuck with it even if it is later found Unconstitutional within the United States.
One should also remind your Senators of the 1997 Byrd-Hagel Resolution
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There is one thing that overrides all bureucracies. Tanks, Troups and bombs.
I am actually surprised the news of the Antarctic gaining ice made it out the door. Of course with NOAA staring at Contempt of Congress they might have tossed this bone to the ‘deniers’ so they look ‘unbiased’
I have wondered about the same thing. More optimistically, it might be NASA realizing that the fraud is almost over and they are repositioning their reputation.
Gail, I strongly disagree that the president can bind us to a treaty without Senate ratification. He has no authority to do that and any actions taken are without merit and are void. Let any foreign body try to enforce something that isn’t binding to us. They need our trade as much or more than we need theirs.
spren,
That is why I presented the two points of view. Constitutionally a treaty must be ratified but those intent on sabotaging the USA have come up with other names like Executive Agreement that allows the president to get around Congress and the Constitution. Then international law ignores our Constitution and considers an “Executive Agreement ” no different than a treaty. Neat trick, huh?
As far as enforcement via international sanctions comes in, that is what Clinton and Al Gore were so busy working on (Reagan too) The concept is INTERDEPENDENCE. It is the reason Clinton made dam sure our strategic industries got shipped overseas thus compromising our independence and making us vulnerable.
Back when Al Gore was VP and Clinton president, I first ran into the Interdependence concept and saw the plan on how the work was to be divided among nations to make them interdependent and not self-sufficient. Unfortunately if I saved the info it is long gone. All I have is this.
MORE on this concept. We don’t talk about it but it is like a cancer and has really grown in the decade since I first heard of it.
See Dale C. Copeland, “Economic Interdependence and War: A Theory of Trade Expectations,” International Security, Vol. 20, no.4 (Spring 1996)
Mankind at the Turning Point: Interdependence is Totalitarian
International Monetary Fund: Convergence, Interdependence, and Divergence
11/30/2009 WTO Chief Pascal Lamy: Free Trade and Interdependence Help Promote Freedom, Human Rights and Civil Liberties (Democracy NOW reams Lamy)
Pascal Lamy 18 December 2013 Global value chains, interdependence, and the future of trade
Interdependence day 2015 org
Tony, thanks for letting me wander so far off topic onto this political crap. Unfortunately December is barreling down on us.
He said “could be ice-free”, which was a true statement.
roflmao…. now that is seriously , but moronically, funny !!
Elephants could grow wings and drop a great lump of do-do on your head.
Oh.. looks like its already happened. !!!
There was no way that 2012 was ever going to be ice free.
That only happened in the first 3/4 of the Holocene, and the Earth is nowhere near those nice warm temperatures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2Ipft4XT-c
A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.
…this new study jointly announced by the AGU and the BAS says that the gains in the 20th century for the West Antarctic are the “highest we have seen in the last 300 years”.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/11/05/yet-another-study-shows-antarctica-gaining-ice-mass-accumulation-highest-we-have-seen-in-the-last-300-years/
I say you both MAY be full of horse excrement.
And I could be the most handsome man on the planet.