Record Early Northwest Passage Fraud

The usual band of climate criminals are touting a record early Northwest Passage voyage, due to global warming and melting ice. They seem to be confusing “steel hulled icebreaker with lights, radio, satellite, GPS and Internet” and “melting ice.”

Ship sets record for earliest crossing of notorious Northwest Passage through Arctic | The Independent

Amundsen saw the Northwest Passage open in 1903, and could have completed the trip in one year – had that been the purpose of his mission.

TimesMachine: March 9, 1907 

Amundsen had a small wooden boat, with no satellite, GPS, Internet or communications, and limited light.

According to NASA, that was the tenth coldest year on record.

But, as always, this story gets much worse. The route which Amundsen took in 1903, is completely blocked with ice this year.

ArcGIS – Roald Amundsen Northwest Passage Map

July 25 was the last day when Amundsen’s route was visible through the clouds. The red represents ice. The route is blocked to anything other than an ice-breaker.

https://go.nasa.gov/2tWJUyR

Just more fraud from the team.

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80 Responses to Record Early Northwest Passage Fraud

  1. Norilsk says:

    Sure if you have a state-of-the-art ice breaker, you can get through.

  2. Norilsk says:

    Canadians know their ice conditions. Read a bit about the Saint Roch, which has several firsts to its name–86 days from Halifax to Vancouver via the northwest passage in 1944.
    http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/st-roch/

    • arn says:

      Seems climate change already existed long before it was called global warming :)

      (but i’m pretty sure the -15 degress celsius today are much much hotter than the -10 degrees celsius in 1944.
      As we all know: The same climate which was considered normal decades ago is today the hottest ever on record (please ad further apocalyptic adjectives here(and use lots of red color) to make people accept paying the protection money
      called co2 tax)

  3. Norilsk says:

    The Voyage of the St. Roch: A True Canadian Adventure
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri-r9fC20m4

  4. richard says:

    They weren’t far off completing the North West passage in the 19th century

    https://seagrant.uaf.edu/nosb/2005/resources/arctic-explorers.pdf

  5. richard says:

    Probably got fairly close in 1838-

    “North-west Passage.
    For April 1838, we gather the intelligence, that
    the north-west passage has been achieved,
    and that the continent (1) of North America
    has been circumnavigated, and the latitude of
    its northern extremity ascertained by actual
    observation:—
    “It is,” says the writer, in the work referred to,
    ” the great glory of this country to be indebted to com-
    mercial enterprise for a discovery, which has excited
    and baffled, the ardour of maritime nations for the last
    three centuries, but has now been achieved by an
    expedition fitted out solely by the Hudsons’Bay
    Company, and conducted by its own officers and
    servants.”
    The expedition, it seems, was equipped in
    the spring of 1836, under the direction and
    superintendence, of Mr. Simpson, the resident
    Governor of the Company; and onward it
    proceeded, on its perilous mission, under the
    charge of Messrs. Dease and T. Simpson, with
    13 volunteers. This little, but adventurous
    band, followed the route, formerly pursued
    by the British Government, to solve a geo-
    graphical problem, which, when solved, could
    tend to no possible advantage. They, of course,
    encountered many icebergs, — came in contact
    with some of those miserable beings, the Es-
    quimaux, — saw whales and seals sporting in
    the water, — and having reached latitude 71 °
    23′ 33″ north, longitude 156° 29′ west, they,
    very wisely, set out, on their return home-
    wards ; and, as they have furnished us with
    an account of their voyage, we presume, they
    must have reached home in safety. We learn,
    however that — ” They will resume their survey to the eastward at the opening of the navigation in July next, with the view of connecting the discoveries of Sir John Frank”

  6. Andy DC says:

    http://www.natice.noaa.gov/ims/

    The chart attached above, produced by the US National Ice Center and the US Navy, currently shows that Arctic Sea Ice has now jumped ABOVE the 10 year average! Who would believe that after such a low spring maximum?

    Griff keeps parroting outdated, discredited propaganda and ignores later data that proves him very wrong. His inability to accept reality borders on pathological.

    • Colorado Wellington says:

      Borders? I was taught that such an inability is one of the mental disorders studied in the field of psychopathology …

  7. Brian D says:

    Looks like low pressure will continue to dominate the arctic basin for the coming week.
    Today’s map.

  8. Brian D says:

    Low pressure system moving in from Siberia to re-enforce weakening low pressure.

  9. Brian D says:

    Basically we are looking at a wash, rinse, repeat weather pattern that started a couple weeks ago.

    • Andy DC says:

      I hope those low pressure areas don’t chop up the ice as alarmists claim happened in 2012. You would think that the lack of sunshine and fresh snow on the ice pack would produce less melt.

      • Brian D says:

        Yeah, those systems are strong. They cause upwelling, and spread the ice out as well. So we’ll see how the ice fairs this week. A pattern change with weaker lows and a more fluid pattern like earlier this summer would be more desirable IMO.

  10. Martin says:

    Shock News !!! Icebreaker smashes through the Arctic sea ice in exactly the manner it was designed to do !

    The headline doesn’t seem relevant to the story:

    ” Icebreaker-type ships tend to be the only vessels which can make the journey, with conventional crafts struggling in the Arctic environment.

    While the ice has reduced because of climate change, significant amounts still remain, making it near impossible for normal vessels to make the journey. ”

    LOL

  11. Norilsk says:

    This has got to be one of the best reports I’ve read about A.E Nordenskiold, who was the first explorer to traverse the Northern Sea Route between 1878/1879. The report says they were within hours of making it past a point that would have allowed them to make it in a single year. He didn’t even require a Russian nuclear powered ice breaker (sarcasm).
    http://www.finland.or.jp/public/default.aspx?nodeid=41335&contentlan=2&culture=en-US

  12. ducdorleans says:

    there’s a few pictures of the passage here … https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/07/earliest-crossing-of-the-northwest-passage-ever/535443/

    anyone can see that some of that was for icebreakers only …

    • ducdorleans says:

      e.g. I really doubt that the pictures 18 (Beaufort Sea), 22 (Peel Sound) & 27 (Victoria Strait) can be done by any commercial ship, let alone a sailing boat or a wooden ship, without the help of an icebreaker …

  13. richard verney says:

    Relatively recently, I saw a documentary on the 2014 & 2016 search for the lost ships of the Franklin ill fated expedition of 1845. A summary of this ill fated expedition is set out on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin%27s_lost_expedition

    On 7 September 2014, the search team located one of Franklin’s two ships (HMS Erebus). The ship is preserved in very good condition and lies at the bottom of the eastern portion of Queen Maud Gulf, west of O’Reilly Island.

    On 12 September 2016, it was announced that the Arctic Research Foundation expedition had found the wreck of HMS Terror south of King William Island in Terror Bay, which is at 68°54′13″N 98°56′18″W, and in “pristine” condition.

    What was interesting about this documentary was that the search vessel (ice strengthened, fitted with all the latest gzmos) repeatedly got stuck in ice which continually hampered the search and the summer season was coming to an end. The Master of the search vessel when commenting on the ice difficulties they were encountering stated that he thought that the then present ice conditions were very similar to that experienced by Franklin in 1845 to 1848.

    The Master of the search vessel, who is obviously extremely experienced in ice conditions and handling vessels in ice conditions, probably having at least 20 years on the spot experience, was suggesting that the ice conditions in 2014 (or 2016) were essentially the same as the ice conditions in 1845 to 1848 with no significant change!

    PS. I cannot recall whether this interview took place on the 2014 search expedition, or on the 2016 expedition, but it matters little. The important point being that Arctic conditions in this area of the North West passage had not materially changed in about 150 years.

  14. Jim Hunt says:

    A quote from the Indy:

    Icebreaker MSV Nordica was at sea for 24 days, travelling more than 6,214 miles to make the record.

    It arrived at Nuuk, the capital of Greenland, on 29 July, having set off from Vancouver, Canada on 5 July, the Associated Press reported.

    The previous record was set by Canadian Coast Guard ship Louis L. St-Laurent in 2008. It arrived in Point Barrow, off Alaska, on 30 July, having also set off on 5 July from Newfoundland.

    Where’s the “fraud”?

    • gator69 says:

      Want to see the genocide?

    • AndyG55 says:

      So what.

      ICEBREAKER.

      roflmao

      You do know that current Arctic sea ice level is HIGHER than it has been for some 90-95% of the last 10,000 years, don’t you Jimbo (the clown),

      … or are you the same nil-educated, moronic, bed-wetting cretin you always were?

      • gator69 says:

        Andy, you must understand that… welll… climate change!

        The reason we could not land on the moon until 1969, was because of climate change. Everyone would have had computers and internet access 200 years ago, except for climate change. All new records and advancements in science are caused by climate change.

      • Andy DC says:

        Yes, for Jim it is an incredible, unprecedented accomplishment that an icebreaker can break ice.

    • AndyG55 says:

      “While the ice has reduced because of climate change, significant amounts still remain, making it near impossible for normal vessels to make the journey. ””

      Did you even read that part, troll-slime ???

      • Jim Hunt says:

        Of course I read it Andy. I even said much the same thing myself. From July 12th:

        http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2017/07/the-northwest-passage-in-2017/

        The remaining sea ice in Queen Maud Gulf doesn’t look like it will last long, but the ice in Victoria Strait and Larsen Sound is made of much sterner stuff:

        So where’s the alleged “fraud” hiding?

        • pmc47025 says:

          “The melting of sea ice means a journey that claims the lives of numerous explorers in the past is getting easier and easier”

          The “easier” journey is a result of new technology (steel icebreaker, propulsion, navigation, etc), nothing to do with “melting sea ice”. The opening story line is fraudulent.

          • Jim Hunt says:

            Oh no it isn’t! I refer you to:

            http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2016/08/northabout-braves-the-northwest-passage/#Sep-11-PM

            for some video evidence, amongst other things.

          • pmc47025 says:

            Jim,

            Oh yes it is (infinity).

          • pmc47025 says:

            Seriously Jim,
            Northabout, built in 2000:
            * 92 HP diesel + 2 15hp two-stroke outboards
            * 1800 liters diesel capacity
            * Aluminum hull
            * Modern navigation

            Gjoa (refurbished in 1901):
            * Single 13hp kerosene engine
            * Unspecified fuel capacity
            * Wooden hull with sheathing
            * Clock and sextant navigation

            Declaring the “easier” journey is completely due to melting is fraud.

          • David Jay says:

            Jim:

            It does not appear that the eastern approach to Cambridge Bay will even open this year. It could likely be reached from the west, but not from the east. The Northabout would have no chance this year – they lucked out last year.

          • Jim Hunt says:

            A few questions for you PMC.

            1) How long did Gjoa take to negotiate the Northwest Passage?

            2) How long did Northabout take to negotiate the Northwest Passage in 2001?

            3) How long did Northabout take to negotiate the Northwest Passage in 2016?

          • Jim Hunt says:

            David – Northabout would have much preferred to be negotiating the Vilkitsky Strait this year rather than last.

            Let’s wait and see how Larsen Sound looks by the end of the month before jumping to any hasty conclusions shall we? The rest of the southern route via Bellot Strait is already easily “sailable”.

          • Gator69 says:

            Hey pmc! If you could please give Genocide Jim a prompt answer, he is very busy, as he is working day and night to starve 8 million people to death this year.

          • AndyG55 says:

            “1) How long did Gjoa take to negotiate the Northwest Passage?

            2) How long did Northabout take to negotiate the Northwest Passage in 2001?

            You really are reaching peak MORON today Jimbo. You haven’t learnt anything except to be even more slimy and snivelling.

            Modern navigation, satellite charts of where the sea ice is, a boat capable of 5-6 times the speed.

          • Colorado Wellington says:

            The crew of the Northabout could pull the sailboat’s retractable keel up, start the 90 H.P. Perkins diesel and motor through. That’s what they did, for example, when after waiting in a sheltered bay of Pilot Makhotkin Island they got past Vilkitsky Strait into the Laptev Sea. Even with the help of all modern technology and communications it was touch and go sneaking through the shallow waters along the coast.

            The Northabout’s passage was a proof of great seamanship of Skipper Litau, one of the most celebrated Russian sailors. It was not a proof of the Boy Admiral hallucinations about global warming and sea ice.

          • pmc47025 says:

            Jim,
            1) Doesn’t matter.
            2) Irrelevant.
            3) Who cares?

            Yes, it took century+ old technology on an exploration mission longer than modern technology on a dedicated traverse mission. It’s called progress, not melting.

          • gator69 says:

            Dear Genocide Jim, why no luv for poor brown people?

            These were the bad projects. As you might see the bottom of the list was climate change. This offends a lot of people, and that’s probably one of the things where people will say I shouldn’t come back, either. And I’d like to talk about that, because that’s really curious. Why is it it came up? And I’ll actually also try to get back to this because it’s probably one of the things that we’ll disagree with on the list that you wrote down.

            The reason why they came up with saying that Kyoto — or doing something more than Kyoto — is a bad deal is simply because it’s very inefficient. It’s not saying that global warming is not happening. It’s not saying that it’s not a big problem. But it’s saying that what we can do about it is very little, at a very high cost. What they basically show us, the average of all macroeconomic models, is that Kyoto, if everyone agreed, would cost about 150 billion dollars a year. That’s a substantial amount of money. That’s two to three times the global development aid that we give the Third World every year. Yet it would do very little good. All models show it will postpone warming for about six years in 2100. So the guy in Bangladesh who gets a flood in 2100 can wait until 2106. Which is a little good, but not very much good. So the idea here really is to say, well, we’ve spent a lot of money doing a little good.

            And just to give you a sense of reference, the U.N. actually estimate that for half that amount, for about 75 billion dollars a year, we could solve all major basic problems in the world. We could give clean drinking water, sanitation, basic healthcare and education to every single human being on the planet. So we have to ask ourselves, do we want to spend twice the amount on doing very little good? Or half the amount on doing an amazing amount of good? And that is really why it becomes a bad project. It’s not to say that if we had all the money in the world, we wouldn’t want to do it. But it’s to say, when we don’t, it’s just simply not our first priority.

            http://www.ted.com/talks/bjorn_lomborg_sets_global_priorities/transcript?language=en

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dtbn9zBfJSs

          • Jim Hunt says:

            Dear PMC,

            I’ll simplify matters for you, so that you only need to bother your head with “new” technology:

            2) How long did Northabout take to negotiate the Northwest Passage in 2001?

            3) How long did Northabout take to negotiate the Northwest Passage in 2016?

            Love,

            Jim

          • pmc47025 says:

            Jim, I’m not going to “bother” to look up how long it took with new technology. You already know and seem to think it has some significance. I wish you luck in your fraud search.

          • Jim Hunt says:

            No need to search any further than right here PMC.

            1) In the summer of 1905 Gjoa managed to make it all the way from what is now Gjoa Haven, Nunavut to Herschel Island, Yukon.

            2) In the summer of 2001 Northabout managed to make it all the way from Westport, Ireland to Nome, Alaska via the Northwest Passage.

            3) In the summer of 2016 Northabout managed to make it all the way from Bristol, UK to Bristol, UK via the Northern Sea Route and the Northwest Passage.

            Q.E.D?

          • AndyG55 says:

            And Jimbo the clown doubles down on his Moronic stupidity

            Modern navigation, satellite charts of where the sea ice is, a boat capable of 5-6 times the speed.

            You really are a brainless twerp to even think of comparing

            The Larsen route is still closed.

            Arctic sea ice levels are still higher than they have been for 90-95% of the last 10,000 years.

            Only the LIA and the slight warming period since have been higher.

            YOU ARE IRRELEVENT, Jimbo. Just a base-level chicken-little

            So stop your child-minded sea ice bed-wetting, the Exeter Uni boys will get sick of cleaning up after you.

          • Gator69 says:

            Genocide Jim, why do you hate poor brown people?

            Why do you love ice more than human life?

          • AndyG55 says:

            Northabout even had drones to find a way through the ice.

            Without modern assistance on weather reports, Northabout would never have made it passed Vilkitsky for another 3-4 weeks.

            And without being able to travel at 22 knots on fossil fuel engine, they would never have made it through.

            Modern technology was the only reason, and you know it, so stop you moronic attention-seeking trolling.

          • Colorado Wellington says:

            The Boy Admiral has reached critical density. Can someone explain this effect to him?

          • pmc47025 says:

            Jim,
            “The melting of sea ice means a journey that claims the lives of numerous explorers in the past is getting easier and easier”

            I’ll try explaining it in a way you can understand – to the tune of the meow-mix commercial:
            fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud fraud

          • Jim Hunt says:

            PMC et al. – I’ll try explaining it in a way you can understand. Here’s a few facts for you.

            1a) Freeze up at Gjoa Haven started on October 1st 1903.

            1b) Gjoa eventually departed Gjoa Haven on August 13th 1905.

            1c) Gjoa reached King Point near Herschel Island on September 2nd 1905, but could get no further. She was forced to spend the winter of 1905/06 there.

            2) I leave it as an exercise for the interested reader to determine equivalent dates for 2001.

            3) What new technology did Northabout possess in 2016 that was absent in 2001? Warp drive?

            Ditto re the interested reader.

            4) I also leave it as an exercise for the interested reader to determine equivalent dates for 2017.

          • gator69 says:

            Genocide Jim, why do you continue campaigning to kill poor brown people? You have never answered my querstion. Why do you hate poor brown people?

            Come on Jim, you own it now, so let’s have an explanation.

          • AndyG55 says:

            Jimbo, even a tape worm, wouldn’t eat your excrement

            Northabout even had drones to find a way through the ice.

            Without modern assistance on weather reports, Northabout would never have made it passed Vilkitsky for another 3-4 weeks.

            And without being able to travel at 22 knots on fossil fuel engine, they would never have made it through.

            Modern technology was the only reason, and you know it, so stop you moronic attention-seeking trolling.

          • Jim Hunt says:

            AndyG – To borrow a turn of phrase from Tommy,

            You are reading challenged…..

            What about facts rather than conjecture and propaganda, such as Northwest Passage freeze and melt dates?

            What about Northabout’s 2001 voyage through the Northwest Passage? Identical technology!

          • AndyG55 says:

            Are you MENTALLTY challenged, Jimbo

            How about the FACT that current Arctic sea ice level is FAR higher than for most of the laist 10,000 years.

            Or are you DEEP IN DENIAL as always.

          • pmc47025 says:

            Well Jim,

            Northabout mission from 2001:
            “In the Arctic Summer of 2001, a team of leading Irish sailors and explorers will retrace the famous Northwest Passage from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean.”

            Northabout mission from 2016:
            “On June 19th 2016, we left Bristol in our boat “Northabout to circumnavigate the North Pole anticlockwise.”

            Different missions, different results.

          • gator69 says:

            Cowardly Genocide Jim refuses to tell is why he hates poor brown people. Sick Bastard.

          • Jim Hunt says:

            Well PMC,

            You keep on throwing red herrings around and evading the point. Gjoa got stuck near Herschel Island on September 2nd 1905. Here’s a map of sea ice concentration in the Beaufort Sea on September 2nd 2016. Do you seriously contend that there is any comparison?

          • pmc47025 says:

            Jim, you are intentionally distorting history. Gjoa did not “get stuck” 9/2/1905. Mission goals make a difference:

            “It seems possible that the Gjøa could have sailed through the Northwest Passage in one season, because Simpson Strait was free from ice when the eastern entrance was reached on the 9th September. However, the navigation of the Northwest Passage was only part of the program, the relocation of the north magnetic pole and continuous recordings of the magnetic elements during at least one full year were equally important. Since the recordings should preferably be made at a distance of about 100 miles from the magnetic pole, Amundsen was on the lookout for a suitable wintering place”

            Your denial of huge differences in technology, mission statement, and overall Holocene arctic ice levels (with intent to deceive) is alarming. Great White Fraud!

            https://collections.dartmouth.edu/published-derivatives/arctica/large/Vol_XV-0020.jpg

          • Colorado Wellington says:

            Roald Amundsen and the men of his era conducted real science on their polar expeditions. Compare their accomplishments to the pitiful claims of the modern pretenders and laugh.

            The 2013-2014 Australasian Antarctic Expedition

            The Antarctic remains one of the last great unexplored regions on Earth. In spite of a century of discovery, the southern continent and vast surrounding ocean remain a unique place to learn about how our planet works. Privately funded, the Australasian Antarctic Expedition – the AAE – set out with a team of professional and citizen scientists to work across the Southern Ocean and Antarctica in 2013-2014.

            Our aim: to extend over a hundred years of scientific endeavour in the region and communicate the value of science and adventure in this remote and pristine environment. With the return of the AAE 2013-2014 to more civilised climes, this website showcases some of our key discoveries and provides educational material from the expedition.

            Delve in, explore and discover. I hope you enjoy what you find.

            Professor Chris Turney
Leader of the Australasian Antarctic Expedition 2013-2014

            It seems the biggest scientific discovery of the Turney expedition was that if “professional and citizen scientists” link arms and stomp around, they will compress the snow enough so a rescue helicopter can land and take them to safety.

            I wish Jim could have been there. He would have greatly contributed to their scientific accomplishments.

          • pmc47025 says:

            LOL, yes Jim, telling the truth is easy.

            A captain using modern technology (90 hp, navigation, detailed ice reports) might attempt to squeeze through a small crack in the ice. A historic captain might not take the risk.

            You compare a verbal iced-in historic description with a modern satellite image of Sept 2 2016 image. The two are not directly comparable, and, satellite images of Sept 1900-1940 (for example) are not available.

            Back on point, the article in question credits easier navigation to melting ice without giving a nod to huge advancements in technology, which is (intentionally?) dishonest.

            You seem to like questions. If you had to bet something of value (your Pokemon Go collection?) on only one of the following two statements being true, which one would you choose?

            1) Advances in infrastructure, mission support, propulsion, navigation, and other technologies make arctic navigation easier.
            2) Industrial CO2 causes climate change which melts sea ice and makes arctic navigation easier, but the melting/warming will eventually be catastrophic.

        • AndyG55 says:

          You really are a nil-knowledge little slimebag, aren’t you Jimbo.

          Still that PATHETIC begging for someone to visit your little SEWER/ CON of a web site.

        • AndyG55 says:

          You do know that current levels are HIGHER than they have been for 90-95% of the whole of the last 10,000 years, don’t you??

          Or will you continue to be WILFULLY IGNORANT.

          This small drop since the EXTREMES of the LIA and the late 1970’s is a blessing for all those living up there.

          Fishing, Commerce, Travel, all become possible for a couple of weeks extra a year.

          Why do you HATE the people up there so much that you would wish them a continuation of the massive extremes that they had to put up with for the last 40 or so year.

          You really are a very sick-minded, anti-human, little troll, Jimbo.

        • Colorado Wellington says:

          Admiral Hunt forgot that the Internet doesn’t forget:

          Northabout Ship’s log 7 Sep 2016:

          We looked at the Russian Ice charts tonight, We were so lucky, Whilst masses of open sea now, and indeed you could sail to N86 Degrees, we would still be stuck in the Laptev sea. The ice down the coast still blocking an exit.

          Our mother of a storm pushed the ice from the coast long enough for us to sneak through, then close again. In retrospect,a clever move to push early when we did.

        • Jim Hunt says:

          PMC – I am doing nothing of the sort. Your reference is to 1903. Mine is to 1905:

          http://frammuseum.no/polar_history/expeditions/the_gjoa_expedition__1903-1906_/the_gjoa_expedition__1903-1906_

          As early as September 2 progress was stopped at King Point, near Herschel Island, and within a week it was evident that another winter had to be spent in the Arctic. This time the Gjøa had much company because no fewer than 12 ships had been caught at Herschel Island.

          • pmc47025 says:

            I stand corrected. Gjoa intentionally stopped for mission reasons in 1903 during low ice conditions and was then trapped in 1905 during possibly higher ice conditions. I wonder how many of the dozen+1 ships had 90hp engines.

          • AndyG55 says:

            Would have been plain sailing before the LIA.

            All this current massive extent of sea ice is relatively new, and the result of the freezing cold of a short 200-300 year period of extended cold which affected the whole of the NH. It has taken a long time to recover to the current, still comparatively high levels. The late 1970’s was a recurrence of those extreme high levels.

            Unfortunately, the recovery from the sea ice extremes of that COLDEST of periods seems to have stalled at levels which are still above those of 90-95% of the last 10,000 year.

            Commerce, travel fishing etc , will remain only possible for very short periods each year.

            Also unfortunately, the main driver of the decrease since 1979, the AMO, is starting to head back down. One top of that we have a sun that seems to be rather sleepy.

            That means that Arctic sea ice levels will gradually start to increase again over the next several years.

            A big disappointment, as lesser amounts of sea ice would have been of massive benefit to the whole region.

          • Jim Hunt says:

            PMC – Hooray! That was easy wasn’t it?

            What’s the relevance of the engines? There was no sea ice anywhere near Herschel Island on September 2nd 2016.

    • sunsettommy says:

      Icebreaker MSV Nordica

      “Ship sets record for earliest crossing of notorious Northwest Passage through Arctic”

      “The melting of sea ice means a journey that claims the lives of numerous explorers in the past is getting easier and easier.”

      Now think really hard,Jim.

      • AndyG55 says:

        An actual modern high powered Ice Breaker. !

        Not like Larsen’s little wooden St. Roch (Aussie hardwood on the outside, close enough to steel, I guess ;-) )

        Larsen’s route passed Banks Island is still totally blocked this year.

        And its not like it was the supertanker which did a transit of the NWP in 1969, before the massive peak in sea ice in the late 1970’s ;-)

        Arctic sea ice has barely RECOVERED to the lower levels 1940’s or 1960’s ..

        Let alone to the MUCH LOWER levels of the MWP and the rest of the Holocene.

        And unfortunately, that recovery to more normal levels has stalled.

  15. gator69 says:

    So where’s the alleged “fraud” hiding?

    I give up. Where are you Genocide Jim?

  16. Brian D says:

    O-buoy 14 in the Northwest Passage shows ice has been moving south. North winds have been frequent, pushing ice in from the basin and retarding surface melt to some degree.
    http://obuoy.datatransport.org/monitor#overview/gpstracks

  17. AndyG55 says:

    It would be interesting to see how anyone could use the route used by Larsen’s St Roch in 1944 and the SS Manhattan in 1969

  18. AndyG55 says:

    Approximate Larsen (1944) and Manhattan (1969)route.

    Looks possible ? no ??

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