The Day After Dunkirk – England Bombed, And Progressives Blamed America

Britain lost 30,000 men evacuating Dunkirk, and Churchill predicted England would be attacked “almost immediately.”

05 Jun 1940, Page 13 – The Sydney Morning Herald

Churchill was correct, and American progressives and scientists predictably blamed the US “warmongers.”

June 6, 1940 – ENGLAND IS BOMBED! | Chicago Tribune Archive

Tens of millions of people died because America didn’t get involved earlier. Nothing ever changes.

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24 Responses to The Day After Dunkirk – England Bombed, And Progressives Blamed America

  1. RAH says:

    Very few in the US or anywhere else outside of Britain, no matter what their motivations or sentiments were, thought GB could hold out after being driven from the mainland. The miracle of Dunkirk, Roosevelt doing all he could to send help, the ability of the RAF to use their advantage of Radar for maximum effect, Air Chief Marshall Dowding retaining the bulk of the best of fighter command including almost all of his Spitfires for home defense, the dominance of the Royal Navy, and of course the sheer determination of the people under the leadership of Winston Churchill were some of key factors that made the miracle of Dunkirk pay off.

    Of course the Germans helped to make it happen too. Having the inept Herman Goering convince Hitler that his Luftwaffe could get the job done at Dunkirk. Then there was the subsequent delay because the neither the Wehrmacht high command nor Hitler had developed plans for what to do next for the contingency that arose . Then they spent an inordinate amount of time pinning medals on each other and staging elaborate Teutonic victory extravaganzas as if they had won the war already instead of developing plans for what to do if GB did not sue for peace. So they to thought that “England kaput”

    “Today we want to sing a song,
    we will drink cooled wine
    and we clink the glasses to that,
    for it must, it must be done.

    Gib me your hand, your white hand,
    On your health, my hunny, on your healt, my hunny, on your health.
    On your health, for we go, for we go,
    for we go to England, England! (kaput)

    Our flag and that blows on the mast.
    that showes our Reiches power.
    For we not more long want to suffer it,
    That the English man laugh about that.

    Gib me your hand, your white hand,
    On your health, my hunny, on your healt, my hunny, on your health.
    On your health, for we go, for we go,
    for we go to England, England! (kaput)

    That comes known that I am fallen.
    That I sleep in the sea flood,
    does not cry for me, my hunny and think,
    flowed for its homeland, there its blood.

    Gib me your hand, your white hand,
    On your health, my hunny, on your healt, my hunny, on your health.
    On your health, for we go, for we go,
    for we go to England, England! (kaput)”

  2. RAH says:

    The vast majority of those 10s of millions that died due to failure to respond were Russians.
    The US was nowhere near prepared to be much help in 1939 -1940. Mobilization and preparations were taking place but we weren’t even close. But most importantly the American people weren’t mentally prepared either. The ‘Selective Training and Service Act” of 1940 instituting the draft and mobilization of the NG was passed by the HR by a single vote Sept. 14th, 1940. And that in a body where the Presidents party held 267 seats!

  3. Andy DC says:

    The early days of the war, when Hitler seemed unstoppable, must have been very frightening.

    • Kris J says:

      Agreed! You’re facing an advanced country with the best weapons and some of the best leadership. Practically every single weapon system they had was superior to the Allies in the early days. The Panzers and Tigers, fighter planes, the artillery, the Bismarck, submarines, etc.

      • Kris J says:

        What’s a bit frightening now is you have a bunch of complete idiots who can place a 20 megaton warhead right down on top of you

      • Paid for by Herbert Clark Hoover’s Moratorium on International Debts, aka Standstill Agreement, of July 1931. That mistake allowed most European monarchies and dictatorships to welsh on loans taken from These States, or settle for pennies on the dollar. National Socialism was firmly in the saddle within two years of US intervention staving off the victims’ efforts to claim reparations for Germany’s initiation of force. (The deal is recorded in newspapers and in Hoover’s official papers)

      • Marsh says:

        In 1939 Britain had the biggest Navy, the biggest Bombers & the best Radar in the World; Germany was always behind in all “3”.
        Radar was a key advantage in Battle of Britain, Germany could never invade Britain with a small Navy & “no” Air superiority.
        The Blitz & bombing of British factories was manageable because
        German bombers were “small” in bomb load. Conversely and later in the War, the bigger US & British Bombers – destroyed every productive means to end the War sooner. Also German leadership failed to understand the Code Breaking technology the Allies had ; just as they did Radar. The German war machine was poorly equiped to invade Britain or the Soviet Union. Once
        USA entered the War; Germany’s days were done & dusted…

  4. “Blood is thicker than water” originated when US sailors broke neutrality to bail out some Brits. The UK was again shelling China to enforce treaties imposing an opium tariff for “Boxer reparations”, again turning China again into an opiate dumping ground. That ended with the rebellion of 1911, but the opiate glut triggered Balkan Wars escalating into WWI, then later, WWII. This is the noble cause that twice put German, French and British Big Pharma to sic their governments on each other. Once the US learnt the NSDAP had turned the thing into a genocidal extermination of “innate selfishness”, a pretext was found for pitching in. But in June 1940 the thing was still just another market fight among European morphine smugglers as hidden persuaders.

    • Clif says:

      Uh..no. Too many things wrong with that post to debate.

      • Colorado Wellington says:

        That’s par for the course with his posts.

      • Buck Turgidson was right when he said that the truth is not always a pretty thing. But that in no way alters it. Europeans no doubt blame T. Roosevelt and Taft for “meddling” in their trade and inveigling The Hague into calling upon morphine producers to stop exploiting primitives with addictive narcotics. Fortunately yet another communist youth shot yet another befeathered bigshot just days before enough ratifications were deposited.

  5. RAH says:

    The desperation of the evacuation Dunkirk and what led to it and the loss of the better part of a generation of young British men during WW I were the two factors that were preeminent in the psyche of the British civil and military leadership and thus on their opinions of how to conduct the war and how the British ground forces conducted their operations.

    IMO the lessons and effects of both were on balance a positive for Britain and the US in their subsequent conduct of the war against the Nazis. They made the British command more conservative than their more sanguine American cousins. Thus they held off the American demands for a cross channel invasion in 1942-43 with a more conservative peripheral strategy that allowed the US forces gain much needed experience and build up the necessary materials and expertise to make the major invasion successful when it was finally carried out.

    On the negative side almost all of the British high command had seen the massive waste of their men in the trenches of WW I. They had been the Jr. officers which had led them over the top to their slaughter back then. The mark this left made them sometimes overly conservative on the battlefield. That is why one can find no equivalent to a US George Patton or a German Heinz Guderian among the WW II British Generals.

    • Marsh says:

      RAH ,, have you forgotten Field Marshal Bernard Law Montgomery, 1st Viscount Montgomery of Alamein, KG, GCB, DSO, PC, DL … He achieved more
      than either Patton , Guderian or Rommel , before, during and post WWII. Montgomery commanded all the Allied ground forces during D-Day Operation Overlord. As a General, he had defeated Rommel in Nth Africa the Western Desert before Italy & into Western Europe (mass surrender of Italian and German troops). In fact , he was responsible for the first major Allied victory during WWII and he covered more battles & territory than Patton & Guderian together.. I agree that WWI carnage did influence tactics & changed the British Army but they had great Generals ; Montgomery was the best of the best.!

  6. Norilsk says:

    There was an excellent BBC mini series on Dunkirk on YouTube that recently got pulled.
    At the end of the first episode a soldier who say now he knows what it means. This is the full test. He didn’t quote it all. It’s deep.
    “No man is an Island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the Continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee.”
    John Donne, Meditation XVII
    English clergyman & poet (1572 – 1631)

  7. Norilsk says:

    The series is not politically correct. Ther was no issue saying Germans, NAZIS, or jerry.

    Even this quote. “If my aunt could piss standing up, she’d be my uncle.

    Here’s a short clip.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE6jdbiAlSI

    • RAH says:

      Though I have yet to see it, my understanding is they worked hard to be historically correct. The leftists are of course unhappy with that.
      They’ve complained that the movie lacks racial diversity as if there were a bunch of black soldiers in the British Army. And they lament the fact there are no prominent female roles. And the French are complaining that they had troops at Dunkirk too.

      Seems that when one makes an accurate depiction of a particular historical event on a limited scope focusing on what your countrymen did it pisses a bunch of people off these days.

      https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/melissa-mullins/2017/07/30/feminist-flunks-dunkirk-mediocremen-only-film

      • Norilsk says:

        In the BBC docudrama the French are featured. A French officer reminds a British officer that Dunkirk is a French port. At a point in the evacuation they go to 50-50 French-British loading of the boats. There was even a no wounded order.

        You can buy the dvd from amazon.uk for 7 pounds, although you will need a dvd player with region 2 capability.

      • Griff says:

        There were considerable numbers of black French colonial troops holding off the Germans on the Dunkirk perimeter as the evacuation took place…

        • Rah says:

          From what I’ve seen the movie concentrates on the British situation. About 9 percent of the troops in the French Army in 1940 were black colonial troops. The question of how many we’re at Dunkirk will have to wait until I get home. Right now, after having driven all night, I’m on I-30 in Arkansas getting into the sleeper as the other driver takes us to Laredo, TX. Good night or morning or what ever it is.

        • gator69 says:

          I have a rare French M1926 Adrian helmet in my collection. It was only worn by the French African troops, and very few of them ever saw Dunkirk. The Senegalese Tirailleurs were mainly deployed in the south of France and the Rhineland, far fron Dunkirk.

          And since when does Ms Griff give a rats ass about poor brown people?

  8. Jeffk says:

    Diplomacy kills more people than wars. It happened in WW II and may happen again after progressives kept talking to Iran and N. Korea for too too long.

  9. Brian D says:

    WWI really left a bad taste in the American peoples mouths. That war was nasty! Gallup did a poll, and 95% said no to entering into war again in Europe.
    As a side note, did you know that Texaco was supplying oil to Germany prior to us going to war? Roosevelt was furious, and did all he could to try and stop it, but Texaco kept on. Its CEO was a pro Fascist. In the end, big business, and banks thrive on war, then and now.

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