“Hansen got it right”

The consensus of climate experts tell us NASA’s James Hansen was correct in 1988.

Climate scientists’ consensus: James Hansen ‘got it right’ in congressional global warming and human causation testimony 30 years ago this week.

Judgment on Hansen’s ’88 climate testimony: ‘He was right’ » Yale Climate Connections

In 1988, Hansen predicted Lower Manhattan would be underwater by 2018.

“The West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water.”

Stormy weather – Global warming – Salon.com

The West Side Highway does not appear to be underwater this morning.

511NY | New York Traffic | Commuter Information | Road Conditions

Lower Manhattan sea level is slightly lower now than it was 20 years ago.

Sea Level Trends – NOAA Tides & Currents

Hansen predicted heat and drought for the Midwest.

24 Jun 1988, 1 – The Miami News at Newspapers.com

Since Hansen’s forecast for Midwest drought, the Midwest has had above normal precipitation almost every year.

Climate at a Glance | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

Maximum temperatures and the occurrence of heatwaves in the Midwest have plummeted to record lows.

Hansen predicted global warming would lower the water level in the Great Lakes.

24 Jun 1988, 4 – The Miami News at Newspapers.com

Great Lakes water levels have increased and are near record highs.

Great Lakes Dashboard – HTML5

Hansen predicted four degrees warming for the US by 2020.

86602726a_1.pdf

Before data tampering, the US has cooled over the last 90 years.

Hansen predicted the Arctic would be ice-free by 2018.

The Argus-Press – Google News Archive Search

Arctic sea ice volume is the highest in thirteen years.

Spreadsheet    Data

Hansen got every single one of his predictions exactly backwards, which is why Democrats and the left hail him as being a prophet.

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32 Responses to “Hansen got it right”

  1. Andy says:

    In regards to the ice volume being so thick, as I showed earlier DMI is missing whole loads of no ice up their on their thickness chart.

    So any figures or graphs from DMI derived source is suspect.

    Meanwhile

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-44559948/icy-dip-to-mark-winter-solstice-in-antarctica

    Andy

    • tonyheller says:

      The desperation is palatable.

      • Andy says:

        Actually I am feeling quite smug on this one Tony as I can see the Bremen mapping and also visual satellite data.

        So I know it is wrong.

        However, it does not matter on trends, lag at this point is not important if they keep the same working practices.

        It will be interesting to watch how their volume goes with extent over the summer melt. Their volume is high but their extent is fairly low. Will be good to see how it pans out.

        As an aside, now you got me looking at Greenland I think this will be a very poor melt season on that island. Too much snow dumped in 2017 and 2018 and hence high albedo not helping the melt season. Also the North atlantic oscillation is still high so bad for Greenland but good for my suntan in Europe :D

        Andy

        • Spiritus Mundi says:

          You have two data points that are discrepant so you dismiss the one that doesn’t fit your world view and accept the one that does. Please tell me you have no connection to any real science in any shape or form.

          • tonyheller says:

            Reality will hit home in the next 30-60 days.

          • Gator says:

            Reality never hits home in Nutterville, where the alarmists reside.

          • Andy says:

            “You have two data points that are discrepant so you dismiss the one that doesn’t fit your world view and accept the one that does. Please tell me you have no connection to any real science in any shape or form.”

            Well I do have a photo is shape or form

            https://imgur.com/a/7j1bLqM

            Go tell me that is thick sea ice which DMI reports but a photo and Bremen say is clear water?

            What are your eyes telling you?

            Two eyes, two data points.

            Andy

          • AndyG55 says:

            The fact that you seem to think that what appears to you to be a minor aberration of very thin ice, is going to make even the tiniest difference to the overall volume, shows everyone that you have very low-level brain-function.

    • Caleb says:

      Andy,
      You need to be careful with the UniBremen maps. For some reason they have a habit of showing scattered ice areas as ice free. This could be embarrassing back when we had buoys with cameras up there. They’d say water was ice free, but you could see the bergs plain as day. You couldn’t always see the ice from satellites that the buoys saw.

      Sometimes this might be explained by a mass of ice congregating at the four-corners where four grids meet. If the same mass was in the center of a grid the grid would be 40% ice, but it was located instead where it made four grids of 10%. Then they can call that zero because anything less than 15% doesn’t count. So they call it ice-free, and look foolish, because the supposedly “ice free” water shuts down a drilling operation.

      Also they don’t deal with the thickness of the bergs. Scattered ice is a lot different when the bergs are ten feet thick than when the bergs are six inches thick.

      All in all I’d say the Bremen site has erred on the low side, which may be why Alarmists gravitate to its data.

    • pmc47025 says:

      Andy,
      You didn’t directly acknowledge that the Hansen predictions were (and are) worthless, but, we know you know. Keep clinging.

      • Andy says:

        “Andy,
        You didn’t directly acknowledge that the Hansen predictions were (and are) worthless, but, we know you know. Keep clingin!”

        I didn’t knowledge directly as this is nothing to do with what I am, talking about and don’t care or give a fuck about that side of things.

        Thanks for putting your spin on things. You keep clinging to stupid off topic arguments that I don’t care about but makes you feel good with your contribution, no matter how small, to proceedings.

        Andy

        • pmc47025 says:

          Nice rant.
          You completely ignored the point of the main post (Hansen was wrong!) and diverted to something unrelated (eyeball comparison of two arctic data sets for a single point in time). I (wrongly?) assumed you did it intentionally to re/misdirect, but now, I doubt you read the main post.

  2. Andy says:

    here is DMI showing 1m + ice

    http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icethickness/thk.uk.php

    here is reality

    https://seaice.uni-bremen.de/data/amsr2/today/Arctic_AMSR2_visual.png

    DMI missing free ice in multiple areas, so how can it be accurate?

    Andy

  3. Andy says:

    here is where DMI do not spot current ice extent

    http://www.zen141854.zen.co.uk/dumbice2.jpg

    Considering that graph is out of date just on extent it does make me wonder how accurate their data is on volume, which is more tricky…..

    Andy

  4. arn says:

    It is hard to tell from the small photo but it seems that sea level is still several several yards below the highway.
    A prediction that failed by 99%+ seems for modern climate scientists
    something extremly accurate.
    (and even if Hansen was just 10% right(and he is not) we would have more than 300 years
    until the highway gets flooded.
    And by 2318 most of the buildings etc will be replaced anyway,therefore there is no threat as there will be a slow natural adjustment of building things.Nothing will be flooded)

  5. Steven Fraser says:

    DMI ice volume for the 20th shows that the gap between 2018 #4 and 2005 #3 continues to narrow, as 2005 daily volume is declining more rapidly than this year.

    2018 is now 105.52% of the 16-year average, and 106.38% of the DMI charted reference year average for 2004-2013. The average for the full 16 years is higher than the average for the 2004-2013 reference years.

    Both 2014 # 5 and 2018 are gaining on 2005, day-by-day, and have been consistently in the last week. I am interested to see if 2018 crosses the 2005 value before the date that 2014 did, which occerred between the reports for jun 24 and jun 25. It all depends on the weather over the next few/several days.

    Stay tuned!

  6. Johansen says:

    Hansen was just a good b.s. storyteller, like Mark Twain or Marvel Comics. If the west side highway was submerged, you wouldn’t have a functioning New York City, there would be no restaurants, no cop cars, and people wouldn’t care about the birds. If the water table rose that much, hydrostatic pressure would literally float tall buildings out of the ground, and all of the underground infrastructure would be non-functioning. All the way up the Hudson, infrastructure would be destroyed, long before anyone cared about restaurants serving water. This is a ‘science’ that is founded on deception and comic-book mythology

  7. sunsettommy says:

    I think Andy has a big freezer full of ice cubes he collected from the Hudson Bay area in his basement. He must bring out a few pieces to apologize to them for being kept alive in his damp basement freezer.

    Really Andy why you ignore all the OTHER failed predictions made by Dr. James Homer Hansen?

    Meanwhile did you miss this Tony wrote?

    “Hansen predicted the Arctic would be ice-free by 2018.”

    He even posted Hansen’s quoted words from a newspaper in 1988:

    Epic fail!

  8. Andy says:

    My comment is awaiting moderation

    I wonder if i will be moderated out of here :D

    Andy

    • RAH says:

      In the years that I’ve been on this board Tony has never pulled a stunt like that. His is not like the alarmist sites. The few that have been blocked have been warned as to why they would be if they continued their behavior. So take your paranoia and shove it where the sun don’t shine Andy.

    • AndyG55 says:

      Get ON TOPIC, little andy

      This is about Hanson’s idiocy… not your. !

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