More Spectacular BS From The Washington Post

The Capital Weather Gang says Greenland is baking.

Greenland is baking, too. In fact, its summer melt season has already begun — more than a month ahead of schedule.

It’s been exceptionally warm in Greenland lately and ice is melting a month early – The Washington Post

Temperatures in Greenland so far this year have been coldest since 1995, and 18th coldest since 1885..

Spreadsheet

It is currently -32C in the interior of Greenland.

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It has been very cold there.

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There has been close to zero melt in Greenland this year.

Surface Conditions: Polar Portal

Temperatures are dropping rapidly in Greenland, with last year being the coldest year since 1989.

Last summer was the third coolest on record in Greenland, with only 7% of days last year above 50F.  Yet climate experts continue to claim that Greenland is melting down.

Last summer Danmarkshavn, Greenland never got above 51 degrees.  Their coolest summer since 1983, when skies were obscured by dust from the eruption of El Chichon.

Greenland has gained near record amounts of ice over the last two years.

2017   2018

But eighty years ago, Greenland’s glaciers were rapidly melting and facing “catastrophic collapse.”

17 Dec 1939, Page 15 – Harrisburg Sunday Courier at Newspapers.com

The Capital Weather Gang doesn’t seem to do a lot of fact checking. They apparently parrot any alarmist BS they get told by academics.

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35 Responses to More Spectacular BS From The Washington Post

  1. Gofer says:

    McKibben pushing his new book on pbs Amanapour show. Spin and lies. He said the world will run on wind and solar in 50 years. Of course the ususal ” scientists say”rhetoric,

  2. Arthur Rowland says:

    Sensational journalism – yes. ‘Baking’ is ridiculous.

    First melt event one month before typical melt – also yes. The graph shows that the level of melt is at least 20 days ahead of the mean. (yes, 30 years is a limited dataset, but it is the one displayed and is relevant.)

    Would you be concerned if it approached 40% melt in June? 50% in May? Genuinely curious if there is any threshold that would worry you – I’m inferring that you consider current melt levels, and all other climate/weather variation, within a normal or acceptable range.

    • tonyheller says:

      Temperatures in Greenland have been well below normal this year. Greenland’s surface gained near record amounts of ice the last two years. Is there a threshold at which this scam ends?

    • Gator says:

      yes, 30 years is a limited dataset, but it is the one displayed and is relevant

      It is only relevant to alarmists. Nobody else with a grain of sense cares one whit.

    • paul courtney says:

      Mr. Rowland: Can’t speak for our host, but I’m keen to say that there is no threshold that would be cause for any concern for May, 2019, or June, 2019, or any single season. From what I’ve read, the enormous amount of ice on Greenland renders a single season melt insignificant. We could see (gasp!) 100% melt for May, it would simply be insignificant times 2. May 2020 could see all that ice come back, and then where is the concern? Let me ask you this, what is the threshold level of melt in one season that would worry you? Then we’ll do the math and find that you are concerned over a tiny percentage of all Greenland ice. Wouldn’t that be silly?

    • spike55 says:

      Threshold.

      Lets have a look at the total ice mass of Greenland since 1900. (this includes the PIOMESS data)

      Notice anything ?

      (You can do the work and make your own graph if you disagree)

    • spike55 says:

      Or we could look at the longer view of Greenland Ice area over the last 8000+ years.

      Now, why should anyone with a thinking , rational mind be concerned about natural variability of the Greenland ice?

    • paul courtney says:

      Mr. Rowland: If you’re genuinely curious, let us know. The non-response to our comments is rather trollish.

  3. M says:

    Wow! These graphs make me curious about early March temperatures- also about where the average highs are coming from (seems like Greenland never really made it above 0 at the tail end of March).

    Are these charts using raw station data or the adjusted numbers?

  4. Robert Cherba says:

    I barely earned my EE degree in 1959, but I’m embarassed by the s0-called “science” in climate “science,” and even more so by the MSM reporting on climate “science.” Pushing failed predictions over several decades should bother these people, but apparently their politics is more powerful than real science and science reporting.

  5. ducdorleans6 (@ducdorleans61) says:

    off topic .. @Tony ..

    Tony,
    It was some time since I used “unhiding” .. For some twitter message, I wanted to use it again, and now it says (basically) that “the version of ghcn.exe is incompatible with the Windows version you’re using”

    I’m using windows 10 – version 10.0.17763.437

    What am I doing wrong, or do you know of this problem ?

    thanks in advance ..

  6. ducdorleans says:

    and .. you can off course delete the off topic message .. has no place here .. :-)

  7. John of Cloverdale, WA, Australia says:

    WP show an anomaly map in there article and say it’s melting, but if you look at the max and min maps, it is well below freezing. Fools!

    • R2Dtoo says:

      That kind of deception should be called out, and the paper/article retracted. It does provide “grist” for Tony’s mill!

  8. Valdimar says:

    I think er should sue those alarmist. Average yearly temp in Iceland last 18 years has been plus 3.9°C we hardly get warmer than mostly plus 16¨C but average 9°C in the summer. In Greenland that has been really cold this winter as I have been seeing minus 20 to 30 for long periods of time or colder that middle NW in USA. Checking my global weather radar Greenland coastal shows from minus 0 to 10°C. Sure some deep Valleys and Fjords can warm up during part of the day. We have those lying bastards on Soros payroll over here also.

  9. Psalmon says:

    Please ignore S.A.S. The minute he said “both sides are lying” AND “I don’t trust graphs.” AND “Printed material can be photoshopped” then there can be no truth, there are no motives, there is no admissible evidence. HE has no credibility, no capacity for rational thinking.

  10. Mr Sir says:

    LOL you couldn’t even keep Scott Adams on your side.

    • neal s says:

      That just proves to me that Scott Adams is not as smart as he thinks he is and his bs detector is flawed.

    • CAROL FOSTER says:

      Even? What’s so special about Scott Adams?
      He created a successful cartoon strip.
      Other than that … what?
      He likes to portray himself as some kind of ‘truth wizard.’
      I think he’s just kinda full of himself.

      He says he’s looking for the most persuasive argument and has jumped from one side of the debate to the other … several times.

      He, himself, seems rather easily persuadable.
      Not saying a person can’t change their mind … but not THAT often!
      Either something makes sense to you … or it doesn’t. AGW doesn’t.

      For some reason, he latched onto Steve/Tony as the most persuadable …
      until someone else came along and ‘persuaded’ him otherwise.

      Scott Adams does not appear to be particularly smart or wise, but does have a large following.

      He strikes me as an odd duck … with a large following.

      • rah says:

        Perhaps is Scott would take the time to do a little research into the background of the general science involved he might not be so easily be swayed. I would suggest ‘The Resilient Earth: Science, Global Warming and the Future of Humanity’
        https://www.amazon.com/Resilient-Earth-Science-Warming-Humanity/dp/143921154X
        as a great starter.

      • -B- says:

        Adams like to fit everything into his interests. Persuasion, etc. I assume that’s unchanged since he went to video and away from writing his blog. He seems never to look to deeply into anything and doesn’t really question anything we are commonly taught. I don’t find him offering anything to learn from except maybe in those little facets like persuasion that he’s geeked out on.

    • rah says:

      Now there’s a mature adult remark.

    • Disillusioned says:

      LOL you couldn’t even keep Scott Adams on your side.

      Not an issue about which to cause any concern. He has stated he doesn’t like to do deep research. It only proves groupthink propaganda infects even some of those who consider themselves independent thinkers.

  11. billtoo says:

    I still want to know why NSIDC shows arctic ice 3 to 3.5 SD below mean when the danes swear temps in the arctic are stone cold normal. Someone is going to get nervous pretty soon. and then it collapses.

  12. Gray Tranquilla says:

    Yes ice is melting a month earlier and the reason is not what most think……Earth precession and the orbital plane of the solar system has shifted as it typically does…..Meanwhile the anarctic is getting colder….

    SO WHAT THE HELL is MSN medias problem? Ignorance of science so vast that they have chosen to believe in JUNK science…

  13. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    I thought it was supposed to be Baked Alaska not Baked Greenland.

  14. AndyDC says:

    It looks a though Summit registered -60C in March. I believe that translate to -76F! These people are entirely shameless. Yet they control 95% of what morons hear everyday.

    Has anyone seem/heard the latest rap music video about climate change? Some snot nosed kid is rudely screaming at an adult to pick up his trash. The obscene dialog that followed would make a sailor blush. In the background, you can hear news reports about record temperatures and horrific wildfires, that we were all going to die.

  15. Argiris Diamantis says:

    I always look at earth.nullschool.net. Not only is temperature in the inside of Greenland very low, -31,7 C, but I also see that temperatures along the coast line are well below freezing point. So it takes just two mouse clicks on your PC to see who is right and who is wrong. Tony Heller is right. It is even worse than he said, because the entire coast of Greenland is well below freezing point, in spite of the baking sun.
    https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=temp/orthographic=-30.30,74.07,759/loc=-40.853,73.699

  16. RanchArcana says:

    I read it’s the Saharan Dust causing a fair amount of warming lately in parts of Greenland and elsewhere in the Arctic.

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