The Black Hole Of Climate Science

The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.

Richard P. Feynman

Last Monday in Los Alamos, I attended a lecture about black holes and gravity waves given by Nobel laureate Kip Thorne.  He detailed the long history of this research going back to Einstein and Oppenheimer.  As he described it, they were extremely careful about interpreting LIGO gravity wave measurements, and when they first detected one (after 20 years of searching) they were very skeptical, and even suspected someone had hacked the data as a prank.

Compare vs. climate science, where they intentionally hack their own data to achieve the results they want.

NASA 1999   NASA 2016

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25 Responses to The Black Hole Of Climate Science

  1. R says:

    I am well aware that “we cannot expect brilliance from someone who doesn’t even know what they don’t know.” Yes, I’m sure you need to read that again. You have the above truth nailed…I can see that without perusing beyond the 4th line of one time/space wasting rant. Go read something ..it’s obvious you just want attention, mr. what was your name anyway. People with educated minds can’t wonder endlessly about the STUPID ones that seem to never have facts attached to their ire/rage. Tell me, what is it don’t read/know by now/see? Now, that’s amazing, you are not

    • DD101EaN says:

      ad hominem adjective
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      Definition of ad hominem (Entry 1 of 2)
      1 : appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect
      an ad hominem argument
      2 : marked by or being an attack on an opponent’s character rather than by an answer to the contentions made
      made an ad hominem personal attack on his rival

  2. Anon says:

    The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool. ~ Richard P. Feynman

    The sad thing is it appears that they have not even convinced themselves, much less moved on to fooling themselves:

    Some Interesting ClimateGate E-Mail Comments:

    One researcher foresaw some very troubling consequences: “What if climate change appears to be just mainly a multi-decadal natural fluctuation? They’ll kill us probably…”

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/02/05/in-their-own-words-climate-alarmists-debunk-their-science/#5fc2e3c968a3

    • arn says:

      That researcher knew that it is not global warming that may kill him
      but something far more real-
      something like
      the punishment for lies and fake prediction.

      ontopic:

      I am still wondering how black holes completely reverse the
      existing standard((90%++ of the mass in the center is needed to keep
      everything((electrons,planets))together))
      and it still works though they have only a fraction of the mass of the things that surrounds them.

      • Taphonomic says:

        After being wrong for 40+ years, no one has tarred and feathered Paul Ehrlich

        • arn says:

          Ehrlich became the gold standard for modern scientist.
          Reference point and idol for those who believe that you can become whatever scientists you want no matter how incompetent you are.

          The scientific version of the american dream.

    • Donna K. Becker says:

      I just shared this article on FB, which lately has been censoring many of my posts on political and climate issues. It will be interesting to see whether this one makes it through. Another friend who has similar views has been experiencing the same thing.

  3. Bill in Oz says:

    Rest assured, things will not go well for them !

  4. rah says:

    “The duty of the man who investigates the writings of scientists, if learning the truth is his goal, is to make himself an enemy of all that he reads, and… attack it from every side,” he wrote. “He should also suspect himself as he performs his critical examination of it, so that he may avoid falling into either prejudice or leniency.”

    https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/03/the_muslim_scientist_who_birthed_the_scientific_method.html#!

    • Robert Austin says:

      Truth does not stand a chance when it threatens the gravy conveyor of grants to academia. Any scientist threatening the conveyor is set upon viciously, the latest being Dr. Peter Ridd. Too many universities, too many mediocre academics and “scientists” eking a living in the swamp of academia.

    • GW Smith says:

      He succeeded in spite of Islam. At one point feigning madness to avoid the wrath of the Imam. Today, Islam has succeeded in crushing the scientific spirit in every and any way that it presumes to supersede the Quran.

  5. rah says:

    Great example of the “black hole” of “journalism” reported by one of Tony’s friends.
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/05/12/farage-destroys-marr-shows-brexit-party-is-unstoppable/

  6. Eben says:

    Black holes don’t exist and neither do gravitational waves , you fell for fake science of a another kind.

  7. rah says:

    Sure black holes exist. We see evidence of one in a cranial cavity every time AOC opens her mouth. Someone must have clued her in though and some light must have escaped.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/12/ocasio-cortez-climate-change-destroy-earth-12-years-claim-not-literal/

  8. Robertv says:

    It seems the black holes most governments are are good for the economy.

    ‘The introduction of a flight tax of €7.50 per ticket will not have a negative effect on the Dutch economy but will cut carbon dioxide emissions, according to a leaked report by the European Commission.
    The Dutch government plans to introduce a tax on flying in 2021. The Netherlands is one of 20 EU countries which levies little or no tax on airline tickets, apart from 21% value added tax on domestic flights.
    The report has been leaked by green campaign group Transport & Environment and shows that a tax on tickets similar to that which operates in Germany would lead to a 4% increase in ticket prices and a 4% drop in passenger numbers and flights.
    But the impact of this on the aviation sector will be ‘compensated by an almost equal increase in jobs in other sectors of the economy, so the net effect on employment is close to zero’, the report said.
    In addition, the introduction of a tax on tickets would generate €324m for the treasury, cut CO2 emissions by 4% and the number of people affected by noise by 3%.’

  9. Cam says:

    AOC now walking back the 12 years until the world ends meme: “Like the ‘world ending in 12 years’ thing, you’d have to have the social intelligence of a sea sponge to think it’s literal,” she continued, referring to criticism of a previous comment she made regarding climate change.”

    https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-gop-dwight-office-1423271?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter

    I guess she hasn’t seen videos from all the student climate “strikes”. Every one I’ve watched at some point has someone referencing only having 12 years left to save the world.

    • arn says:

      Sadly she is not so consequent to say the whole truth:
      “You”d have to have the social intelligence((they can never say something without the word social)) of a sea sponge to believe in AGW
      after all the failed predictions”

      Sadly her lords wrote a different text she was allowed to read.

      Of course she can now peddle back as the damage was already done and the 12 years apocalypse scenario very well established inside the minds of young people-that’s why they chose a young AOC as messenger for their plan.

      Now one question still remains.
      If the 12 year doom is not meant literally why is the new green deal
      so extreme and following the 12 year plan
      and what is exactly the time which is left?
      PS
      When people do not talk about specific timelines they use numbers that end with 0 or 5 but not a 2.
      So this was very literal.

      • Chris Hager says:

        I believe Beto O’Rouke has one upped AOC time to doomsday lowering his day of reckoning to 10 years. Although this does end in a zero my belief is that Francis was not attempting to round off his warning of imminent catastrophe but to extract maximum political advantage which his campaign desperately needs. I fully expect that we will be down to 2 years by the time we get to the Democrat national convention.

  10. Squidly says:

    I would have liked to attend that lecture. I am betting that was probably a very interesting lecture indeed. I have a whole lot of questions (and problems) with all of the “black hole” theories. I don’t believe they are what a lot of the science community believe they are. So many contradictions and “holes” (pardon the pun) with those theories.

    – Cheers!

  11. Another black holes exponent, Impey, added this pearl from Feynmann: “We are trying to prove ourselves wrong as quickly as possible because only in that way can we achieve progress.” Petr Beckmann, late Emeritus of U. of Colo. at Boulder, published an alternative to Einstein ‘s calculation of the precession of Mercury’s orbit in Einstein Plus Two. We see that the science of Einstein “Why Socialism?” has less devout but equally serious serious modern critics from the world of “What Attracts Scientists to Socialism?”

  12. fport says:

    Presentation of scale and magnitude – the billion dollar gram – an infogram meant to allow perspective about the vast sums of money involved in the American budget.
    A presentation of the top 50 factors affecting weather – a infogram of this nature would
    be a good framing to rationalize the hysterical pitch of the interwebs.

    https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/the-billion-dollar-o-gram-2009/

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