CNN Says Florida Building Collapse Caused By Climate Change

Sea level rise could have been a factor in Florida building collapse, engineers say – CNN

The base of the collapsed condo is seven feet above sea level.

At current rates of sea level rise, it will take nearly one thousand years for sea level to reach the base.

Sea Level Trends – NOAA Tides & Currents

Sea level has been rising for 20,000 years, and there isn’t one shred of evidence to support the idea that humans have had any influence on it.

File:Post-Glacial Sea Level.png – Wikimedia Commons

9452210 Juneau, Alaska

9447130 Seattle, Washington

9439040 Astoria, Oregon

9419750 Crescent City, California

9414750 Alameda, California

9410230 La Jolla, California

8771450 Galveston Pier 21, Texas

8761724 Grand Isle, Louisiana

8720030 Fernandina Beach, Florida

8574680 Baltimore, Maryland

8534720 Atlantic City, New Jersey

8518750 The Battery, New York

8443970 Boston, Massachusetts

Ninety five years ago, South Florida was underwater and climate experts blamed it on sunspots.

 

20 Sep 1926, 12 – The Vancouver Sun at Newspapers.com

20 Sep 1926, 14 – Evening Courier at Newspapers.com

Three years ago, engineers reported that the concrete columns which supported the tower were cracked.

8777-collins-ave—structural-field-survey-report.pdf

CNN isn’t reporting news.  They believe their job is to interfere with and control US elections, sell climate fear, and protect BLM from any factual reporting.

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Obama spent eight years fearmongering about sea level rise, and then bought a mansion on the beach.

The Vineyard Gazette – Martha’s Vineyard News | President Obama Buys Home on Edgartown Great Pond

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14 Responses to CNN Says Florida Building Collapse Caused By Climate Change

  1. Jake Sinclair says:

    In Florida alone, $26.3 billion worth of coastal property, housing more than 90,000 people, is at risk of becoming “chronically inundated” – that is, flooding at least 26 times per year – by 2045, according to Insider’s analysis of a 2018 report by the Union of Concerned Scientists.

    That property should be going for pennies on the million dollars before long

    • D. Boss says:

      Not sure if Jake is being sarcastic or serious. If it’s serious, then what part of 0.82 feet per 100 years does he not understand?

      https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?id=8724580

      In case of the mathematically challenged that is 9.96 inches per 100 years, or about 3/32 of an inch per year. Also it’s 2.53 mm per year. Straight line for the past 100 years at Key West, just 150 miles south of Miami. CO2 on the other hand has risen a lot in the last 50-60 years, but sea level has not risen based on CO2 concentration.

      As to the insiders report from the union of concerned scientists – what kind of hogwash is this? I live in S E Florida and there is most certainly not inundation every 2 weeks! Nor will that occur by 2050. It happens when there is storm surge (wind blown water), or king tides once or twice every few years – because idiots built things only a foot or two above mean sea level right at the coast – or in some cases roads and storm drains are at or below it! (the tower that collapsed had the parking garage BELOW grade and at or below sea level – bad design in the first place, NO buildings in S Florida can have basements!)

      And for those who do not know, South Florida routinely gets torrential rainfall – even in almost daily afternoon thunderstorms, you can get 4-10 inches per hour rainfall rates! The water table is inches to a few feet below grade everywhere – it is reclaimed swamp! But it’s all sandy (drains fast) and there are 30 foot wide canals every 2-3 blocks in every direction – to drain away these routine rainfall events!

  2. Conrad Ziefle says:

    Blaming the building collapse on climate change is like a kid saying the dog ate his homework, or more akin to the progressives, the Nazi officers saying that the mice ate the wiring in their tanks thereby allowing the Allies to win.

  3. Mossimo says:

    Even if the base is 7′ above sea level, surely the foundation goes deeper than 7′ – does it matter? What is underground flooding in this context?

    • Walt Lafford says:

      The same conditions were there 40 years ago when they put the foundation in so a few MMeters of sea rise should not make any difference. Any exposed rebar will corrode and eventually fail which is likely what happened here since the concrete was falling away from the rebar.

    • arn says:

      Undeground flooding is probably the reason for the collapse,
      especially for a building that is surrounded from both sides by aggessive sea water and where the foundation is lying on a very soft surface.

      As the pressure for buildings on such a surface is very irregular
      (just look at all those artificial airports that were built on the sea and all the cracks and other problems caused by uneven sinking of the airports –
      and buildings suffer from these problems on a microscale)

      Yet this has absolutely nothing to do with climate,
      even if the sea level rise of 4 inches during the 4 decades since the building was built was the reason,as the rise hasnt changed in thousands of year.

      Wind as reason can be excluded.
      Otherwise they would not have built the long side of the building towards the ocean in the first place
      + the number of strong hurricanes to hit Florida has decreased.

  4. Conrad Ziefle says:

    How much has the sea level risen since the condo was built? How much more was the rise than would have been predicted by the predictable (linear) rise in the tide gauges ? Why are ‘t other buildings of the same vintage or older being affected by “climate change”? Aren’t there building codes for construction in a moist salty environment? Without even looking it up, I can guarantee that there are. I’m sure there are also maintenance and inspectionii rules as well. When you have a predictable linear water rise that has gone on for decades, then it should have been considered in the design, maintenance etc.My bet is that someone substituted inferior material in the construction and someone else didn’t do proper inspections.

  5. Gamecock says:

    ‘”I don’t think we’ve owned up even to the scale of the problem,” Schafer said. “If you look at the median sea-level rise predictions and project that onto city maps, the scale of what we need to do is so far beyond the scale of what we’re so far considering.’

    Why would you need to do anything? Building by the ocean has risks. These risks accrue to the property owners and users. Not to the government.

    If the oceans rise enough, people will move.

  6. JCalvertN(UK) says:

    Regardless of whether the rebar has rusted, there wasn’t enough of it in the first place. That is why the building collapsed. Serious design errors by the structural engineers, corner-cutting and shoddy workmanship by the builders, and corrupt oversight by the relevant authorities.
    There is no way a properly-designed building should have totally collapsed in a matter of 12 seconds. What happened was a chain-reaction (or domino-effect if you prefer) and modern building designers are supposed to ensure there are enough reserves of strength throughout the building to prevent failures from propagating too far.
    In particular, the columns are seriously lacking stirrup links. Such links are not put into columns just to make them easier to build, they are absolutely essential to a column’s strength.
    Also, the building seems to have used a form of construction called “flat slab” – i.e. just columns and slab – no beams. Architects love it – because it looks neat and beams are so ugly. Builders love them because they are much easier to build – formwork and rebar required for beams is a complete pain in the a$$. Plumbers and electricians love it because the beams get in the way of all their conduits. And developers love it because the storey high is less – and you can an extra couple of storeys out of a 120 foot high building. But later-on, someone found a flaw in the governing theory of flat slabs. It should have been obvious – but the propensity for the columns to punch holes through the slabs had been underestimated and the early flat-slab buildings had (and still have) woefully inadequate rebar in the slab-to-column connection.
    So, even when it was brand-new, the building was a death-trap because it was prone to such chain-reactions. And it was prone to these because it was thoroughly riddled with these weak columns and weak column-slab connections.

  7. spren says:

    How did that anti-American fraud Obama come up with all that money to buy his estate in Martha’s Vineyard? He also owns a multi-million dollar home in DC and still has the one in Chicago. $400K for 8 years is only $3.2 million if he didn’t spend a dime of it.

    Where has he come up with tens of millions to buy all of this and still have much more in investments and his portfolio? His two Bill Ayers ghost-written books? But hey, let’s go after Trump and his organization.

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  9. Gamecock says:

    Building big buildings on sand, you start by driving* pilings into the sand. Deep. Like 30 feet. The base is way below sea level. One assumes journalists don’t know how buildings are built.

    ‘But some engineers are considering whether increasing exposure to saltwater could have played a role in weakening the building’s foundation or internal support system.’

    Increasing exposure, on beachfront property? Climate change makes it more beachy? The builders surely knew the foundation would be in a salty environment.

    ‘At the very least, experts say even the possibility should be a wake-up call to vulnerable communities across the United States: Climate change isn’t a far-future threat; it’s happening now, and with potentially deadly consequences.’

    Then the experts are making a begging the question fallacy. ‘Possibility’ is not evidence.

    *They don’t drive them anymore. They use a soil liquification system now.

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