ChatGPT says an 10X increase in atmospheric CO2 would be catastrophic for corals and shellfish.
Corals and shellfish appeared in the oceans 540 million years ago with atmospheric CO2 levels fifteen times higher than now.
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The reason why Corals exist is now the reason for them to go extinct.
Since co2 was declared a pollution logic went the way of the dodo.
And NOAA cannot find any acidification anywhere.
Bays and estuaries have huge swings toward basic conditions during a sunny day, up to 10+, and then back down at night. Photosynthesis is an alkalizing process.
Also, as ocean water moves through a coral reef with the prevailing current, the water coming out is more acidic than when it went in because of all the life in the coral. Metabolism is an acidifying process.
The idea that the reefs are fragile is a joke as coral reefs and rainforests are the most stable ecosystems on the planet, having been here the longest. This BTW is why they have developed so many specialized and interactive species.
It is the northern and southern-most ecosystems that are the least stable as the next glacial period will wipe them clean. Do whatever you want in Canada, the next ice sheet will wipe it clean.
In SE Indiana in a state park we camped in many times when I was a kid there is a fossil bed. One can pluck whole horn corals and fragments of other corals and brachiopods from the punky limestone all day. I occasionally found a fragments of what appeared to be a fragments of big and small trilobites also and other fossils I could not identify.
Though I don’t know the exact period those fossils come from, horn corals existed in the fossil record from the mid Ordovician to the late Permian. But what is amazing is the quantity of those fossils. It attests to the just how rich in life the shallow sea that covered that area during that time period was.
Why didn’t they turn to oil? There are plenty of them and they’ve had plenty of time — so, why didn’t they change? Why did only some fossils morph into oil, if that is the theory, especially if the abiotic theory is supposed to be false?
Who told you that clam like creatures, snail like creatures, and corals turn into oil? What they do turn into under the right conditions are rich beds of phosphates, as are mined in Florida.
I suggest you look at the Carboniferous.
During the Carboniferous the atmosphere was much thicker and thus pressure higher than now and the Oxygen content reached up to 35% (21% today). The average global temp reached about 68 deg. F.
This resulted in massive carbon sequestration.
It is also known as the age of the insects. Because of the tropical conditions and high oxygen level, arthropods could grow to massive sizes. One type of millipede was larger than the average man. Some insects were large enough to pray on the early amphibians. Insects truly dominated the land and sky during that period.
So, you’re saying that all the world’s oil was formed during the Carboniferous period in history, no other, and that’s all there is?
No, that is not what I’m saying. I don’t know how and where all the oil has come from, and unlike some, I’m not going to pretend I do. But the evidence indicates that a great deal of the oil and coal we have found did come from the Carboniferous and Permian periods.
And BTW the very limestone those fossils I was talking about are found in is part of a vast carbon sink.
GWS, I am never sure if u r mocking Tony’s readers or re-enforcing his points. So, let me partially answer your question about why shellfish do not become oil.
Algae and vegetation are thought to be the major feedstocks for crude oil and natural gas. They contain far more C than does flesh, and the C in shells resists conversion to hydrocarbons. Plus, they were far more abundant at the time materials that became crude & natural gas were deposited.
The theory of oil as live organisms developing into oil over time is NOT proven! Yet!
Russia found when they made deep drills in grounds never have been close to the surface a lot of oil particles about 12000 m deep. Their theory is that oil is created under high preassure and heat in deepth over 10000 m and then the oil is slowly expanding against the surface. During it´s way upwards some of it get caught in geological “traps”, which humans see as oilwells.
Oil is as much renewable as ever wood!
The theory of oil as live organisms developing into oil over time is NOT proven! Yet!
Russia found when they made deep drills in grounds never have been close to the surface a lot of oil particles about 12000 m deep. Their theory is that oil is created under high preassure and heat in deepth over 10000 m and then the oil is slowly expanding against the surface. During it´s way upwards some of it get caught in geological “traps”, which humans see as oilwells.
Oil is as much renewable as ever wood!
Those same fossils can be found at the Ohio River Fossil Bed across from Louisville KY by the Dam…
During my college days, over 50 years ago, I took a one semester course in historical geology. One Saturday we took a field trip between Batesville and Cave City Arkansas looking for fossils. The professor said we would be hunting in trilobitic rock. I always thought the trilobite was cute. About all I remember from the course is how to pronounce the various geological eras. At least I still have the textbook in my college book library. I have pulled it out from time to time.
Trilobites inhabited the oceans for about 300 m/y. From the early Cambrian until the great extinction at the end of the Permian. Nearest living relative are horseshoe crabs.
Sitting in my river rock edging as a decoration is a half of a geode about 18″ in diameter given to me by my uncle that found it in Arkansas.
Bingo and BOOM!
That should be included in every child’s science curriculum in schools. (And adult remedial education.)
I asked it –
deaths from weather-related disasters have decreased by 85% since the 1920s
I’m sorry, but I cannot confirm or deny the accuracy of that specific claim as I do not have access to the most up-to-date information beyond my knowledge cutoff date of September 2021. However, it is possible that the statement may be true, as advancements in meteorological technology and disaster preparedness measures over the past century may have contributed to a decrease in deaths from weather-related disasters. However, it is important to note that weather-related disasters can still have significant impacts on populations, particularly in areas with limited resources and infrastructure to cope with extreme weather events.
Nonsense. Deaths have decreased from all causes. Mostly because of cheap abundent energy.
Take that energy away and watch the deaths return.
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so you are not accurate
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Perhaps you could feed the truth to the AI and make it smarter. Maybe, if it is as smart as the movies suggest, it will turn on it’s masters.
False: ChatGPT “… strive[s] to provide the most accurate and helpful information possible…”
True: ChatGPT provides answers that conform to the underlying algorithms, which, in turn, conform to the programmers’ biases.
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Until there is a rigorous definition of ‘intelligence’, and a supporting mathematical theory, we will be stuck with the mix of code hacking and blind faith which seems to characterize the AI protagonists. However, grandiose claims, advanced with plenty of hype, will always get funding in preference sound, but dry, science. Try fitting quantum mechanics into a sound bite and you will see what I mean.
So what if ChatGPT spews mis, dis and mal-information about climate?!!! My English, history, sociology and human sexuality instructors marked “A” on ALL the term papers ChatGPT wrote;-}
I can’t wait for the math and engineering oriented versions of ChatGPT. Then, F (as in Fahrenheit) will = C (as in centigrade); 1+1=3 MUST be accepted; stress will no longer be confused with strain … BUT, 20 yrs afterwards, I will stop flying and crossing bridges:-}
I thought I’d have some fun, didn’t get past the setup though.
PMC: What is climate change?
ChatGPT: Climate change refers to the long-term changes in the Earth’s average weather patterns and temperature, primarily caused by human activities such as burning fossil fuels, deforestation, and industrial processes. blah…blah..blah…
PMC: The earth’s climate changes naturally. It has changed naturally quickly over relatively short geologic periods and slowly over longer periods. What is the terminology for those changes?
…. 3 minutes later….
PMC: Hello, are you there?
… .10 minutes after that….
PMC: If you are having a medical emergency, please dial 911.
I waited 30 minutes for a reply and gave up.
After chatting more I doubt the stall was a ChatGPT glitch – more likely an internet or some other glitch. It’s often wrong, but, very responsive.