Group A pushes the high end of statistical boundaries to get a scary sounding story. Group B starts with group A’s results and then again pushes the high end of statistical boundaries with their conclusions. Group C does the same, and so on and so forth.
Once you compound a 20% error five times, you have a 250% error. That is where all these idiotic claims of 10 degree temperature rise, multi-metre sea level rise, etc. come from.
There is a fundamental institutional incompetence in the alarmist community which needs to be eliminated.
In the meanwhile, Fortress Scientific American reports that it’s falling in the “wrong” hands…
Oh yeah, it’s the publics fault. By definition, scientists should be smart enough to know their responsibility; otherwise they’re in the wrong business.
lol, Well, we’re always going to have lunatic hyperbole driven misanthropists with us, so eliminating this from our society isn’t probably realistic, but correctly identifying these maniacs and marking them as people to be entirely ignored may be a more reachable goal. 🙂
But it IS the public’s fault, as elected politicians have the one goal of getting re-elected, so they push for a particular funding policy on science, and so on and so forth.
We need scientists that don’t care about the public or the funding. Tough call.
My father served in WWII. He decided he wanted to die on the sea rather than on land. Navy man, geologist, physicist, mountain man, optical engineer and eventual rocket scientist (who quit Honeywell Aerospace in favor of 3M when rockets became bombs). He fixed air craft instruments in Alaska. One fine day they recovered a Zero. He saw a man get a Purple Cross or whatever the hell it was by tripping out of an outhouse. He requisitioned lots of booze to clean those instruments. Filtering it through loaves of bread took the methanol out, he figured out.
This is the first and last video I ever took of him. Soon after he went blind in the other eye too. His wit and sense of humor never departed, however.
http://www.youtube.com/user/NikFromNYC#p/a/u/1/bv7FJQ-qpl8
-=NikFromNYC=-
“We need scientists that don’t care about the public or the funding.”
You can denigrate and slander the motivation of thousands of scientists who have far more integrity than oil company prostitutes like Lord Monckton.
The magnificent top ranking spokesman of the skeptic community; inventor of a cure for several diseases*; one of which he still suffers from (none dare call him a snake oil salesman); winner of a Nobel Peace Prize pin made from gold recovered in a physics experiment**; etc, ad nauseum.
* http://www.ukip.org/content/latest-news/1675-christopher-a-man-of-many-talents
** http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/personnel.html
Please do provide a coherent answer. Thanks.
“…and needs to be eliminated.”
O’ war ye bespeak?, first blood lacking.
Know thine enemy, tender comrade.
“I am neither a scientist nor a historian, and I have no intention in this book of jumping in to the actual science “debate.” ” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“I spend too much money on art, fine wine, skis, and high-end bicycle parts, and I am in recovery from my habit of buying luxury cars.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“Few people want to give up their car or spend money retrofitting their their home heating system if they believe that scientists are still arguing over the truth of global warming.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“Nobody wants to be the only person on the block who is spending money to repower their their heating system. No one wants to give up their car, change their diet, or limit their consumption if their efforts will be rendered irrelevant by the consumption patterns of those around them.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“Someone who is highly trained in rhetoric can argue any question from any angle.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“In his 1928 book The Business of Propaganda, Bernays put into words something that every demagogue in history probably knew instinctively. He wrote, “If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, is it not possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing about it? The recent practice of propaganda has proved that it is possible, at least up to a certain point and within certain limits.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels praised another of Bernay’s books, ‘Crystallizing Public Opinion,’ as having been helpful in crafting the campaign against German Jews.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“It might be worth contemplating the slippery slope that faces people in public relations who forget their duty to society – the Public Relations Society of America’s caution to practice “professionally, with truth, with accuracy, fairness, and responsibility to the public.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“Boykoff and Boykoff telegraphed their point about the mainstream media in the title of their paper “Balance as Bias.” Journalists in the modern age find it all but impossible to stay up to speed on every issue, especially every issue of science. To protect themselves, they very frequently fall back on the notion of balance: they interview one person on one side of an issue and one person on the other. There is even a fairly common conceit in North American newsrooms that if both sides wind up angry about the coverage, the reporter in question probably got the story about right.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“I have never liked the term “spin doctor,” and I hate the definition – at least I hate that someone would propose “PR person” as a reasonable synonym.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“Spin is to public relations what manipulation is to interpersonal communications.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“Lies are darned handy when the truth is something you dare not admit.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“This is all excellent advice, especially appropriate if you are trying to recover your reputation after an unfortunate accident.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“In court (and before you conclude that I am lawyer-bashing, I learned all this in law school myself, there is a convention that every accused person deserves the best possible defense, and it is the lawyer’s duty to mount that defense to the best of his or her ability. We have even grown to accept the idea that it’s acceptable to construct a case that is entirely – almost deceptively – one-sided, knowing that the lawyer on the other side will bring equal vigor to the case.)” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“What you cannot see is any evidence that anyone, at any time, asked whether what they were doing was right – whether, for example, the messages they were testing could have been incorrect and ultimately harmful.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“Don’t corporations have have a responsibility to communicate in a way that is fair, and in the public interest?” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“Environmental skeptics are not, as they portray themselves, independent and objective analysts. Rather, they are predominantly agents of conservative think tanks, and their success in promoting skepticism about environmental problems stems from their affiliation with these politically powerful institutions.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“The next IPCC report should give people the final push that they need to to take action and we can’t have people undermining it.” – quoted by John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“There was 100% consensus that global warming was not caused by natural climate variations.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“Denying it was wrong. Delaying action is dangerous. People who say otherwise should, at some point in the very near future, have to stand accountable for their recklessness.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“There is a greater than 90% chance that our spaceship is going to crash” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“Cooper makes outrageous accusations, saying that scientists are faking climate change so they can fleece governments for additional research funding.’ – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“Cooper himself has benefited financially in oily investment in disinformation” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“I want to scream at the television: That’s not true! If Benny Peiser can’t find a single peer-reviewed article in any reputable science journal any time in the last fifteen years, if Lawrence Solomon can’t find even one well-qualified “denier” who in point of fact *denies* the human contribution to potentially dangerous climate change, well, this alleged scientific controversy can only be dismissed for what it is – a carefully constructed ruse to keep people from supporting the kinds of actions that will compromise the profit potential of ExxonMobile, the Western Fuels Association, and the American automakers, whose fortunes were shattered after they bet their futures on the continued gullibility of the SUV-buying public.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“As chair of the David Suzuki Foundation, I am gratified that environmental organizations have credibility. But that only covers one of my volunteer commitments. As the owner of a public relations company whose work come mostly from corporations, I began to wonder, if the public doesn’t trust corporations, what do they think about public relations people?” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“We need to reduce our carbon output by something close to 80% by 2030.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“You will be consuming a steady diet stories that suggest that some aspects of climate science are still in doubt.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“You should be hypervigilant.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“Join the neighborhood watch of those who people who no longer stand for disinformation to be passed around your social circle.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
“That’s what we need: vigilance. Eyes on the street.” – John Hoggan (“Climate Cover-Up”, 2009)
DeSmogBlog just IP blocked me for posting quoted from their own book. It redirects to Google, my ex-girlfriend’s web site.
I din’t know CO2 caused smog. Who knew.
““As chair of the David Suzuki Foundation, I am gratified”
Says it all right there. Self Gratified .
I want to know how soon climate science is to declaring that the reason global temperatures haven’t risen is because we have slipped into a mini ice age, which is magically balancing out runaway global warming.
Shocked, shocked!
You must be on of those horrible…….eliminationuts!!
The climate scientists are like people from the Old West sitting around a campfire, seeing who can tell the tallest tale (about warming). Meanwhile people out West in the real world have been freezing their butts off.
Some vindictive soul is likely to suggest elimination of the community rather than of its incompetence …..
/sarc