Hockey Stick Update : 18 Years Of No Warming

14 Responses to Hockey Stick Update : 18 Years Of No Warming

1. ccglea says:

   March 4, 2014 at 9:42 pm

   are these the recorded temps or the “corrected” temps?

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   • An Inquirer says:

     March 5, 2014 at 1:18 am

     RSS is satellite data. There is not adjustment for TOB, UHI or site changes in RSS (or UAH).

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2. novenator says:

   March 4, 2014 at 10:56 pm

   Ever wonder why propagandists like that always use ~1998 as the starting date? It’s because there was an anomalous data spike that year that makes it _appear_ like there hasn’t been any significant warming since then. It’s like comparing the temp of Minnesota in the summer to today to pretend that climate change “is a fake.”

   Climate science deniers have used this trick before, anytime there is an anomalous year they can exploit to confirm their bias instead of genuinely examining the data. All shown on this chart: http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=47

   Another thing, this chart only refers to some atmospheric data stations, completely ignoring how much heat is being absorbed into the oceans: http://skepticalscience.com/global-warming-stopped-in-1998.htm

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   • stevengoddard says:

     March 5, 2014 at 1:56 am

     The graph starts in 1996, you moron.

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     • slimething says:

       March 5, 2014 at 2:03 am

       ROFL

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   • Morgan says:

     March 5, 2014 at 2:07 am

     Science deniers are the retards who reference SkepticalScience. You have no idea how low the reputation of that website is, nobody with a ganglion for a brain would ever cite it. John Cook is a screwball who chases comets. Dana has a very low IQ and doesn’t know science from science fiction. I can’t even say ROTFL because that means I think you’re funny. I wish there were a way to say vomit online. Really? Skeptical science? You might as well cite tiny tots.

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     • Billy N.Z. says:

       March 5, 2014 at 4:32 am

       I thought SS was gone,but TT are doing well.

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     • Gail Combs says:

       March 6, 2014 at 1:48 pm

       You Forgot that Dana works for BIG OIL! ….Run screaming….

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   • Ernest Bush says:

     March 5, 2014 at 2:44 am

     Another paid shill? Throwing skeptical science junk in here is like throwing sheep to lions. It will be ripped to shreds.

     You guys aren’t funny anymore. Just pathetic.

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   • Gail Combs says:

     March 6, 2014 at 9:40 pm

     You start at the PRESENT and work backwards until you get a positive slope.

     The reason?

     It is all about the statements made by Warmists:
     1. Prof. Phil Jones saying in the Climategate emails – “Bottom line: the “no upward trend” has to continue for a total of 15 years before we get worried.” Also see: interview with Judith Curry and Phil Jones

     2. Ben Santer in a 2011 paper “Our results show that temperature records of at least 17 years in length are required for identifying human effects on global-mean tropospheric temperature.” onlinelibrary(DOT)wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2011JD016263/abstract

     3. The NOAA falsification criterion is on page S23 of its 2008 report titled The State Of The Climate

     ENSO-adjusted warming in the three surface temperature datasets over the last 2–25 yr continually lies within the 90% range of all similar-length ENSO-adjusted temperature changes in these simulations (Fig. 2.8b). Near-zero and even negative trends are common for intervals of a decade or less in the simulations, due to the model’s internal climate variability. The simulations rule out (at the 95% level) zero trends for intervals of 15 yr or more, [Maybe THAT is the 95% the IPCC is now talking about.] suggesting that an observed absence of warming of this duration is needed to create a discrepancy with the expected present-day warming rate.

     4. We are looking at no changes in temperature over a period longer than the 10 years that James Hansen once said would show the models wrong;

     So the falsification criteria is 15 years to 17 years. That is why we start at the present and count backwards. Once we hit 17 years The Goose is Cooked. Unfortunately the Goose seems to be a zombie and keeps rising from the dead.

     Anyone have silver bullets, garlic and a wooden stake?

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     • Lane Core Jr. (@OneLaneHwy) says:

       March 7, 2014 at 2:57 am

       “You start at the PRESENT and work backwards until you get a positive slope.” Why is that so hard to understand?

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3. James the Elder says:

   March 5, 2014 at 2:08 am

   Mr. Goddard, you are a prick of the highest order. One day, if we do meet, I’m buying. Damned few of us left.

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4. Morgan says:

   March 5, 2014 at 3:48 am

   I clicked that second SketchyScience link and they show a graph that Nuccitelli drew with a crayon.

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5. Pathway says:

   March 5, 2014 at 4:28 pm

   Skeptical Science also known by SS, especially when dressed in Nazi garb.

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