The BBC presenter was quick to point out that we’re almost at this dangerous boundary—earlier this month the UK’s Met Office predicted global temperatures will rise more than 1?C by the end of 2015. The record-breaking heat of the last 10 months suggests 2015 will be Earth’s warmest year in history
Tol now suggests the idea that the world would likely benefit from anything up to 2?C of warming as “a bit too optimistic.”Even a noted climate contrarian is now worried about global warming – Quartz
Even using wildly fraudulent Phil Jones/ Met Office data, this is nowhere near the warmest year in history, and there is nothing dangerous about warming. Earth was much warmer 6,000 years ago, and civilization thrived in a “climate optimum.”
Paleoclimatologists have long suspected that the “middle Holocene” or a period roughly from 7,000 to 5,000 years ago, was warmer than the present day. Terms like the Alti-thermal or Hypsi-thermal or Climatic Optimum
The Middle East was fertile with temperatures much warmer than now.
7,000 years ago (5000 BC): late Neolithic civilizations, invention of the wheel and spread of proto-writing. The oldest golden treasure found in Varna Necropolis, Bulgaria.
6,000 years ago (4000 BC): Civilizations develop in the Mesopotamia/Fertile crescent region (around the location of modern day Iraq). The american mastodon goes extinct. Earliest supposed dates for the domestication of the horse and for the domestication of the chicken.
Timeline of human prehistory – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
These flaming morons claim that 2C is catastrophic and man-made, when historical evidence shows that it is completely natural and more conducive to civilization.
“The farther backward you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.”
– Winston Churchill
Steven, you are trying to use data on regional warming to represent global warming. It’s wrong. The data do show that 2015 is the warmest year on record.
[SG : Anyone who has spent three minutes studying global warming theory knows that polar amplification is an essential component]
Ice cores from the Freemont Glacier show it went from Little Ice Age cold to Modern Warming warm in the ten years between 1845 and 1855. Naturally. Which shows M.S is FOS.
The only way the climate can head at this point in the Holocene is towards COLD!
The present ‘warm spike’ is a blip on a generally COOLING curve.
http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/lappi/gisp-last-10000-new.png
Gail, you can’t demonstrate global warming using an ice core from one location in Greenland. It’s like saying you can measure the global average temperature by reading the thermometer outside your window. I guess I’m embarrassed to have to reply to most of you.
You tried to deny the global MWP using stalagmites from Scotland, and cedar trees from Morrocco. Or did you not read your own link?
Martin, I agree, your replies are embarrassing. Refuting real evidence with blabbering, gesticulation, and links to a cartoonist site would embarrass anybody.
Read and learn something Martin. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/11/18/1709-the-disparate-economic-and-political-impact-of-weather-and-climate/
Vostok ice core data showing the Medieval and Minoan warm periods:
http://c3headlines.typepad.com/.a/6a010536b58035970c0134849d3d3f970c-pi
GISP to Vostok? That’s a large “region”.
And more: http://www.co2science.org/data/mwp/mwpp.phpMedieval Warm Period Project
Project Overview
Study Description and Results
Africa
Antarctica
Asia
Australia/New Zealand
Europe
North America
Northern Hemisphere
Oceans
South America
MWP-CWP Quantitative Temperature Differentials
MWP-CWP Qualitative Temperature Differentials
Interactive Map and Time Domain Plot
Martin says: “….Gail, you can’t demonstrate global warming using an ice core from one location in Greenland….”
Why not? Mikey Mann used ONE TREE from Yamal
You want more?
The Quaternary Geological History of the Santa Catarina Southeastern Region (Brazil)
This study shows a sea level highstand ~ 4 meters above the present level about ~5000 years ago. With sea level oscillating since then. Not only have the sea levels dropped since the Holocene Optimum the evidence shows that “warmer paleotemperatures were favourable for great proliferation of mollusks in the area”
A mid-Holocene shift in Arctic sea-ice variability on the East Greenland Shelf
1,500-year cycle in the Arctic Oscillation identified in Holocene Arctic sea-ice drift
The Holocene Asian Monsoon: Links to Solar Changes and North Atlantic Climate
I am not going to bother tossing anymore pearls before the swine.
Does that mean the temperatures in every location on earth need to rise simultaneously to have global warming? Otherwise it is happening at different times and technically wouldn’t qualify.
“The lesson from the last interglacial “greenhouse” in the Bahamas is that the closing of that interval brought sea-level changes that were rapid and extreme. This has prompted the remark that between the greenhouse and the icehouse lies a climatic “madhouse”!
Quaternary Science literature says:
#1. It is NOT going to be a ‘tipping point’ towards the warm phase.
#2. As the climate approaches the glacial/interglacial change point you get a climatic “madhouse”
So Anthropogenic Global Warming need not apply. Nature is quite capable of causing warm spells all by here little lonesome.
*******************************************
“without anthropogenic influence both MIS-19 and MIS-11 suffered 3 thermal excursions** right at their very ends. The youngest of each was the stronger, right before each dropped into the next ice age… Whereas MIS-19 may not satisfy everyone as an interglacial belonging to the present eccentricity-paced major climate cycles, it also occurred at a 400kyr eccentricity minimum cycle, just like MIS-11 (the Holsteinian) did and MIS-1 (the Holocene) is doing now.” — William McClenney, geologist.
**Thermal excursions is science speak for warm periods Martin so the modern warm period is normal and right on schedule.
William has been closely following the literature in Quaternary Science on interglacial-glacial transitions. He was nice enough to ship me over three hundred papers on the subject.
***************************************
The actual debate over climate is whether or not the Holocene will match MIS 11 or MIS 19.
Again from William McClenney with much reference to the Quaternary Science literature.
Regional my ass…
http://pages.science-skeptical.de/MWP/Globe%204650×2847%20mit%20Graphen%20und%20Linien%20JPEG.jpg
Those happened at different times, gator. It was not global.
Bullshit. This image shows that the LIA and MWP were global.
You are a lying little troll.
Martin pull something from your ass to prove gator wrong … something uniquely stupid like you always do 😉
No, it doesn’t, gator. The events depicted in the map didn’t all happen at the same time.
They depict the LIA and MWP, which did not happen together, but did happen globally.
Quit squirming and lying, the LIA and MWP were global events, as this graphic clearly illustrates.
Gator, Martin’s utter IGNORANCE of how the climate works is truly astounding.
“Those happened at different times, gator. It was not global.”
Lets look at the IMPLICATIONS, shall we Martin? If they didn’t happen at the same time then it is indications of ‘the bipolar seesaw’
So what does the the bipolar seesaw tell you?
Sorry, just to clarify, what is “polar amplification”? – thanks
This is about the previous response. It ended up in the wrong conversation – sorry
Yep polar amplification.. 😉
https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/uah_antarctica_temperature_anomalies11.png
You mean this polar amplification?
https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/uah_antarctica_temperature_anomalies11.png
Also look up terms like “Neoglaciation”
And Martin, the ONLY data that shows 2015 as being likely to be the warmest is the MASSIVELY CORRUPTED NOAA /Gavin Schmidt/Tom Karl fabrication.
The REA:L DATA from RSS (run by warmistas) and UAH shows that 2015 is HIGHLY UNLIKELY to be the warmest..
You are LYING and committing intentional deception.. ie FRAUD , Martin.
TOL, A noted climate contrarian????
If I recall he is like Bjørn Lomborg, another economist who believes in Global Warming but thinks it is not a crisis. He was coordinating lead author for the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report.
This quote from his website shows his position:
“The UK could be a leader in international climate policy if it would demonstrate that greenhouse gas emissions can be cut substantially without causing economic pain. Current UK climate policy shows the opposite: Climate policy can cause real hardship without making a dent in emissions.” — UK Parliamentary Inquiry into the IPCC
The Guardian however is nothing but a propaganda rag that prints stuff that would make the National Enquirer blush.
A September, 2014 post at Richard Tol blogspot
Stern2.0 takes climate policy analysis to a new level of exaggeration
Tol’s running battle with the Guardian and it’s LIES.
I imagine we will shortly see his comments on that newest Groniad article. In the mean time he has won his running battle with Environmental Research Letters and his attempts to get something published about Cook’s 97% paper. The man is nothing if not tenatious. No wonder the Groniad tries to smear him with the ‘denier’ label as was done to Bjørn Lomborg. No one is allowed to question the Gospel according to Saint Gore.
The Guardian rules that the Guardian is almost flawless
Bob Ward’s smear campaign
The Guardian
I guess when Fred and Barney were riding around in the Flintmobile with all those dinosaurs chasing them they just thought it was the hottest year ever on earth. Some people just have the intellect of a fungus.
BREITBART picks up the call of fraud.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/18/2015-a-year-of-record-exaggeration-not-temperatures/