Tory Shepherd: Plan B for Earth is exporting our global warming to Mars
The same morons who think that a change of 0.01% CO2 will kill us all, also believe that we can live in a place where the atmosphere is 95% CO2. And that adding a little CO2 on top of the 95%, will warm things up 60C there.
You really can’t make up stupidity at this level.
Remember Planned Obselesence?
Know..Planned Gruberessence?
Through….Planned Incompetence….Learned Taxelevation …..Power Omnipresence. …
Heil Hypocrisence..
Yield….
Financial Frankensteinessence …
How is it that the holier than thou concerned planet and humnaity saving brainiacs always seem to forget about theses folks?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uIAhtODGvMg/Txv-6feKByI/AAAAAAAAAFI/jGP6uSDGKn4/s1600/starving+children.jpg
Should they just hitch a ride to Mars, or try eating carbon credits?
Typical heartless, reactionary lies! Right-thinking progressive people care about starving children. If you show Bill McKibben a shriveled ear of corn from Africa he will cry all day. He will sob 350 times and think about those damned shriveled ears of corn. And the readers of Mother Jones cry every time they read how much he cries. Then they cry some more and do some hating on carbon.
You never cry about carbon and corn and coral as they do.
And he cried as he filled his tank with corn ethanol…
The stones. I forgot the stones. A shriveled ear of corn is ugly and it would attract mice but I wonder if he keeps in his car any of the damned stones uncovered by retreating glaciers. They would look neat on the dashboard and he could look at them every time he needed to cry a little.
Last year I saw a Boulder woman cry over carbon and global warming. I wonder if I could make her cry by showing her a piece of wood from an ancient tree killed by advancing ice and recently uncovered by glacier retreat. Oh, never mind that. She always cries when she’s drunk.
Anyone who wants a stone uncovered by retreating glaciers can just pick up pretty much any piece of rock they find north of the Ohio Valley.
Yes, some rudimentary geology knowledge would go a long way. Dozens choristers from around the world could carry any piece of rock from north of the Ohio Valley through the church and Bill McKibben would cry over them.
test
BEER!
Without a strong magnetic field & a thin atmosphere, Mars will be bombarded by radiation and cosmic rays that will make it virtually uninhabitable. But hey, NASA needs to have big budget ideas.
http://www.space.com/23131-earth-magnetic-field-shift-explained.html
http://www.space.com/images/i/000/033/427/original/venus-earth-mars-interacting-solar-wind.jpg?1381338788?interpolation=lanczos-none&downsize=*:1400
“Earth’s magnetic field protects it from these atmosphere-stripping particles.”
So why Venus is still conserving a thick atmosphere? Should it not have been stripped away?
And how did planets form with these destructive charged particles streaming from the sun ?
The solar wind of charged particles “stripping away” a planet’s atmospheric particles is only one of several mechanisms of atmospheric escape and I understand not a major factor for Venus. Also, sunlight and (paradoxically) the solar wind ions themselves ionize a layer of the upper atmosphere that creates it’s own protective magnetic field.
errata: its own (of course)
The solar wind doesn’t strip CO2 much, it’s heavy. Solar wind mainly strips hydrogen from atmospheres of the inner planets. Venus too. Earth had a huge CO2 atmosphere until it was stripped mostly by limestone sedimentation in the ocean, but also by life.
https://youtu.be/sIayxqk0Ees
Climate Change
Interesting video.
However, it seems likely to me that the weakening of earth’s magnetic field might be linked to the observed weakening of the solar polar magnetic field strengths?
(Gleissberg cycle)
I don’t think the same idiots who vetoed the Keystone Pipleline would build a mega-pipeline to Mars, to import our filthy CO2 to another planet.
So to be clear we are too sinful and fallen to be allowed to shepherd the planet we inherited but we are virtuous and angelic enough to steal and defile what may be someone/thing else’s birthright?
With Mars’ atmosphere at over 95% CO2, additional amounts will probably do nothing to raise the temp. and even if it did, with 0.13% O2 the morons who go there will be gasping for air. No oceans, so no chance of any Oxygen producers to create a livable environment. Stupid runs deep with these folks.
Plan 9 from Outer Space was more plausible.
We’ll call it Plan 11!
(We’re skipping over Plan 10 because that just sounds too much like a banana.)
LOL! Took me a moment… 🙂
Sounded good to me. I love plantain (pronounced planten)! One of my favorite foods which we frequently had in Florida, only rarely in So. Az. Fried it tastes better than ambrosia.
This is moron of the year material.
Moron is only IQ 50-70. This is imbecile material (IQ 30-50)
What level of CO2 will lead to warming…….or can it increase to any level and not cause warming? Are you saying that atmospheric CO2 has no impact? Another way to look at it – at current rate of increase when will CO2 have an impact (if the greeenhouse effect is real)?Please explain.
Even if things worked as the AGW alarmists would have you believe, the effect of increased CO2 is logarithmic.
http://theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-logarithmic-effect-of-carbon-dioxide_19.html
If there is any effect to CO2, we have already seen it. Even a couple of doublings of current levels will not yield any accurately measurable temperature increases. And there is even some evidence that increased CO2 actually has a cooling effect and not a warming one. (That being said, due to increased plant activity, we would still be much better off with more CO2 even if it did cause some cooling)
Just to clarify – my last comment is referring to here on Earth.
Hey ST! Based strictly on the radiative properties of CO2 we could expect about 1°C warming for a doubling of CO2. But in the real world there are a LOT of other factors involved. Consider this; what if there were some other common gas that was already present which had the same properties as CO2? If it had the same properties as CO2 we would have to consider how its actions affected CO2’s response to radiation. Well, in the real world we DO have such a gas, H2O, and it is much more common than CO2. While it is not exactly the same, when it comes to radiation it has a very large overlap in the same bands of infra red where CO2 is active. All that infrared that the extra CO2 might absorb? Almost all of it is already being absorbed by H2O! About the only places on Earth where the air is dry enough that CO2 might have an effect is in severe deserts and very high polar latitudes. (which are dark half the year anyway). Additionally, Earth’s atmosphere sits in a pretty good gravity well, which means that warmer air does not sit still. It just rises faster untill it cools off again. If it carries enough of that H2O along, it will even form clouds that coll things off also.
The most important thing to remember is that while many factors may cause warming or cooling, there is one phenomena that is the definitive marker of CO2 caused warming; initial warming starts in the upper troposphere in low to mid latitudes. Millions of balloon measurements have failed to detect that warming. If CO2 is having any effect it is certainly not catastrophic… and the plants love it.
Must tell you that CO2 is no poison. Nor does it cause any warming. As long as you keep oxygen at 20 you are ok.
20% oxygen
At 1 atm
Is what we need.
I think it’s kind of arrogant to assume that Martians will believe in our same open border immigration policies.
True, it’s disgustingly arrogant. Open border is a white, post-modern Western Civilization-centric concept that’s not acceptable to any true natives. Second, just because we don’t see, hear, feel or smell any Martians doesn’t mean they don’t exist. This perceptibility requirement is another arrogant, white, Western fixation. Third, even if we are somehow allowed to go there, we can’t behave on Mars like indigenous Martians do and, for example, breathe their 96% carbon dioxide atmosphere as they do. That’s cultural appropriation and it’s racist. It would strip them of their group identity and intellectual property rights. And, finally, I’m sure those aboriginals don’t call themselves Martians. We just forced some made-up name on them like we always do.
I feel so guilty and filthy to even discuss this that I have to stop now and take a shower.
… just because we don’t see, hear, feel or smell any Martians doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
Planetary identitiy is a personal choice. How would you know wether or not you have not ever seen, heard, felt or smelled any Martians? Planetary profiler!
Hey Gator! I nominate this Guy for Moron of the Day. http://climate.uvic.ca/people/ewiebe/
Ed Wiebe who was trash talking Dr. Ball, Anthony Watts and Steve Goddard on this page.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO08Hhjes_0
I used one of your Paten Pending Shillelagh, brain bashers on Fast Eddie. He WIEBLE’s and Wobbles but is still doing the Rope-A-Dope… So far he is completely unable to come up with any kind of reply. LOL…
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Toons/martian_revolt1.jpg
Oh, get out of town! Now I am where I was before. Feeling guilty and filthy. Just look at these noble savages!
Nice follow ups, all… 😀
It was the testing on rabbits that proved that CO2 is no poison. They kept raising CO2 and the rabbits would not die. As long as there was enough O2…
So no O2 would be our biggest problem. Internal combustion engines need lots of O2 .
As long as photosynthesis outpaces respiration we’ll be fine.
So we need more CO2.
Go to one of those moons with a methane atmosphere. Fill your fuel tank with oxygen and let your carburetor suck methane.
It is wonderful to be a human for so many reasons, but one. Opposed to all other creatures on the Earth we know we are going to die one way or another. Animals have fear and run from predators, but they do not consciously know they are going to die, they don’t think about it, they don’t worry about it. We are fairly sure we know how the Dinosaurs era ended, they had a good run, from the Triassic period on they dominated the Earth for 135 million years. There’s the rub, with more advanced technology we are finding out more and more about how tenuous life on Earth is for every living thing.
Seriously folks we are going nowhere soon. We have not even returned to the moon, this whole thing is great science fiction. Anyone ever see the Twilight Zone episode, How To Serve Man? Another worry with our sending out messages, to who? No one asked me if I want to send out messages, did they ask you?
So pole shifting, meteors skimming by, solar flare stripping the Earth, the Yellowstone Caldera and super volcano overdue to blow. What the heck, I am going out for that ice cream I was going to skip tonight.
Enjoy, but don’t get hit by a bus.
😀
Anger toward politicians and pseudo-scientists that deceived us after the end of WWII is justified, but dangerous.
Nature Climate Change allowed submission and assigned tracking number NCLIM16030433 to our “controversial” paper on “Solar energy.”
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10640850/Solar_Energy.pdf
Whether or not it is published, I hope the next President adopts the recommendation in the conclusion: “Forgive those who deceived us for the past sixty-nine years for being human and move as quickly as possible to restore integrity to government science and constitutional limits on governments.”
Resentments and anger are luxeries we cannot afford now.
Interesting videos, changes everything fundamentally.
Now
be nice you all, tonight,
and switch off the lights to help save the world
that would be case of:
Don’t let your light shine….