You Really Can’t Make This Stuff Up

Some days I feel like we live in a Monty Python skit.

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34 Responses to You Really Can’t Make This Stuff Up

  1. TJ says:

    Newsflash: NASA discovers large crack in their own arse. Discovery prompts a brown trouser experience.

  2. CheshireRed says:

    Cracks in ice are ‘worrying’? If you’re stood on the stuff then yeah, I’ll give em that. Otherwise it means precisely nothing but scares a few more gullible liberals into wetting their hemp knickers.

    Here’s another one: ‘Worrisome’. Seriously WTF?!

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/apr/14/new-study-shows-worrisome-signs-for-greenland-ice

  3. John Madden says:

    So, Greenland gains about 400Gt of ice annually, loses 270Gt to melting, but the seas are rising despite giving up about 130Gt of water as snow each year? What an incredible trick! Can perpetual motion be far off?

    • Menicholas says:

      It appears that only 400 Gt would be a near record low gain from yearly precipitation.
      The mean appears to be close to 600Gt, with some years much higher than that…like this year, perhaps?

    • Menicholas says:

      You must know sea level rises for a number of reasons.
      One of them may be that the world ocean is still warming up overall from the past glacial max. (A small pond, only tens of feet deep, in a temperate zone takes all year to warm up from a single winter…and some cold water remains trapped at the bottom and never warms up. How long for an ocean?)
      Another may be ground water and surface water discharges.
      And who knows what else.
      Some years it appears mean sea level drops…the gains are overall long term averages.
      But many locations have means that were matched by peaks periods as long ago as the 1940s, or before even that.

      • Louis Hooffstetter says:

        “And who knows what else.”
        Subsidence.
        Climastrologists would have us believe that as deltas and continental shelf deposits compact, de-water, and sink below the waves, it’s the same thing as sea level rise. It’s not. Go to the nearest body of water (pond, lake, ocean, whatever), wade in up to your knees and kneel down. Climastrologists would say that sea level suddenly rose from your knees to your midriff. In actuality, you simply subsided (sank).

        • Kris Johanson says:

          Plus, do we keep tabs on every square mile of sea floor out there? If a section of sea floor somewhere out there rose or subsided, that would also impact sea level I would think.
          If dry land is subsiding, you know that the sea floor is moving around as well.

          • Menicholas says:

            The sinking of certain areas of the east coast of the US is due to isostacy.
            The North American plate was weighed down by the ice during the last glacial advance, and is still rebounding from the ice cap melting and removing that weight.
            As the part of the plate where the ice was thickest rises back up, it flexes the adjacent sections of the plate, causing those parts to sink back down into the asthenosphere.

            Sections of sea floor may be deforming to some extent, rising and falling here and there, but for different reasons.
            To raise sea level all over the Earth, the ocean basin would have to be growing smaller in volume.
            To cause the appearance of local sea level changes, all that has to happen is for some particular spot of continental crust to be gradually moving vertically.

          • Menicholas says:

            But in general, I would have to agree that we could never hope to try to determine how much of any seal level rise is due to a growing volume of water, and how much may be due to a decrease in the volume of the global ocean basin.
            Even trying to pin down the actual long term change in sea level, once land motions have been subtracted out, is very tricky.
            For one thing, the data may be corrupted by the same people who corrupted the temperature records.
            I have tried to reason out what might be the most likely places on earth to have crust which is stable in the vertical direction.
            Perhaps my best guess is the middle of the Pacific plate.
            And what do tide gauges from there tell us?
            Fluctuations…but little if any trend. And what trend does show up in places like Kwajalein and Tuvulu, etc, may just be longer term cycles of wind.
            And then there is the very basic question of “Just what is does the term ‘sea level’ refer to”?
            It is not as simple as one might suppose.
            Here is a short but informative look at some but now all of the surprising complications of answering this basic question:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q65O3qA0-n4

          • Kris Johanson says:

            An excellent 3 min. video on the nuances of measuring “sea level”
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q65O3qA0-n4
            Thanks for posting!

    • Latitude says:

      remember when the rain in Australia lowered sea levels

  4. Robertv says:

    We just came home in Barcelona after visiting my parents in the Netherlands. When we left this morning it was 4,5ºC. We arrived tonight with temperatures from about 20ºC . Don’t worry we are fine. The problem is that that cold weather is coming this way.
    http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp4.html

  5. frederik wisse says:

    Here in Holland we are enjoying a national pastime : ice skating .
    Every child is experiencing this , some years for may be 0 or 1 day.. , some years for a couple of weeks . Every child has experienced that an icefloor will start to show cracks once exposed to some pressure and even in a closed pond icecracks will form as water expands once it changes into ice .Suggest that these morons study simple physics first and wake up from their space-cake dreams .

  6. Steve Case says:

    Yeah, I was rolling my eyes over that one too.

  7. gnome says:

    What’s so good about ice?

  8. R. Shearer says:

    Worrisome, thunderstorms and rain predicted for this Thursday through Saturday in Boulder.

  9. Psalmon says:

    I missed the “All the Walrus are Dying Due to Lack of Ice” story last Sept/Oct. It’s become part of the season like apple picking.

  10. LOL in Oregon says:

    Repent be saved sinner!
    Like these folk, you must religiously believe
    ….. “i” before “e” except after “c”!

    Neither the weird ancient, the heir, nor the deity shall deicide and seize/heist the rein in leisure and efficiency without the foreign lei
    …. even if the concierge reinforces and reinstalls the heinous height of surveillance science by bringing caffeine while riding to Beijing on a feisty, beige reindeer!

  11. John of Cloverdale, WA, Australia says:

    Used to call these cracks, “Crevasses”, in my geological classes.
    As a bullet point under the story title, the Daily Mail says:
    “If the glacier continues to grow, it could cross the entire ice shelf”.
    Eh?

  12. Lance says:

    You guys have all missed the point here. It was Dr. “Worrying” at NASA who discovered the cracks…/sarc

  13. Rah says:

    Tony
    You may want to check out Joe Bastardi’s Daily Update today. NOAA is wanting to name a clearly extra tropical storm near the Azores as a Tropical Storm. There seems there are no longer.itd even at the NHC.

  14. Rah says:

    “it’d” = limits

  15. pmc47025 says:

    The WP has an interesting story about the “worrying” glacier. Weasel word (suggest, could, may…) count ~39.

    The part that scared my crack shut:
    “a common theme was that it appeared to be unusual and could possibly help precipitate a larger break”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/04/14/scientists-just-found-a-strange-and-worrying-crack-in-one-of-greenlands-biggest-glaciers/?utm_term=.d1dd93e8f65f

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