Your SUV Causing The Same Weather As 1899

10 Aug 1899, Page 1 – Washington Times at

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9 Responses to Your SUV Causing The Same Weather As 1899

  1. Andy says:

    Looks like most European SUVs will be going electric at some point, good or bad?

    And Europe is home of the big SUV lets not forget, perhaps a sad passing.

    I prefer diesel to hybrid etc but then that is not the flavour of the month. Mazda have got some ideas on engines rather than full electrical.


    • Gail Combs says:

      Andy, they may be having a re-think about diesels at least in Germany.

      German Chancellor Angela Merkel warned on Sunday against a swift abandonment of diesel cars after a series of emissions scandals, saying the fuel is still needed if climate change targets are to be met.

      I much prefer a diesel. My VW small diesel pick-up got 50 mpg! My 3/4 ton Dodge with a cummins diesel gets 22 MPG and my 1/2 ton gas get ~9 MPG.

      I am not sure you really gain anything with an electric unless you are talking about nuclear to generate the electricity to charge them. And I am not sure exactly how ‘good for the environment’ they are.

      So what sits below the bonnet in these vehicles?

      Most electric car batteries use lithium nickel manganese cobalt oxide (NMC) cathodes and graphite anodes. “Rare earth” metals dysprosium, neodymium and terbium, chiefly mined in China by companies including Xiamen Tungsten and China Minmetals Rare Earth Co, are used in some electronic components of the motor.

      “It’s clear that electric cars from today’s point of view will have lithium ion-based batteries,” said Horst Friedrich, director of Germany’s Institute of Vehicle Concepts.

      “We’re talking about lithium, and… metals like cobalt, iron phosphate, rare earth elements.”

      China is certainly not very good about pollution control link

      Interesting comment:
      “The US has 3200 tones of thorium in storage – enough to supply the early needs easily. One rare earth mine in the US estimates that it will produce 5,000 tones of thorium a year as a byproduct of its operation which would be enough to supply the US for all of its electrical needs and still have 90% left over….” (wwwDOT)

      I would prefer to see thorium used as fuel instead of petroleum products. Save the petrol for producing useful items like plastics and medicines instead of burning it. I would also rather see the USA do the mining since we have better controls over pollution in place.

  2. Psalmon says:

    The media line is that Maria is the worst storm in “modern history” for Puerto Rico.

    That’s because the 1928 Okeechobee Hurricane registered 160mph SUSTAINED winds on Vieques Puerto Rico (150mph for 5 MINUTES!!!). Here’s what wiki has on it:

    “The anemometer located in Puerta de Tierra lost one of its cups at 11:44 am on September 13, just when it had registered a maximum speed of 150 miles (240 km) per hour—a speed that was sustained for five consecutive minutes. Previously the same instrument had measured 160 miles (260 km) per hour for one minute. Because these measurements were taken 30 miles (48 km) from San Felipe’s eye, at the time, it seemed possible that some estimates of 200 miles (320 km) per hour near the center of the storm were not overdrawn.”

    No station is measuring these kinds of winds on the ground for any storm now in “modern history”. The 1928 storm left 500K or 1/3rd the population of Puerto Rico then homeless.

    Jesse Farrel of Accuweather reports gusts around 120mph which make sense since Yabucoa where landfall occurred measured 104mph sustained. Note the 137 mph gust he reports was 45 miles from Yabucoa so it was either a tornado or some similar effect.

    Full court press for climate change in “modern history”.

    • Andy DC says:

      I wonder if we measure winds differently now that in the past. You seldom see the measured winds being anywhere close to what storms of comparable intensity measured in the past.

  3. Rob says:

    Yeah, at the rate of desperation of these clowns, soon modern history will be within the last 30 years then 20 then 10 then 30 days.

    Good to know that 90 years is not modern enough for a planet said to be billions of years old.

  4. My relatives and colleagues in Florida still ain’t got no electric power. But there was no such news from Houston, save when a tree tangled in a power line. Houston is sitting atop two nuclear reactors, the oldest of which has worked perfectly for a quarter-century of Gulf hurricanes. Florida has five reactors, but evidently ten times the whack jobs shrieking “blackouts gooood, power plants baaaad.”

    • Gail Combs says:

      From on the ground reports from Sundance, trees down on power lines seems to be the biggest problem.

      If you have hurricanes go through frequently it keeps the trees ‘trimmed’ If you have a major lull in hurricane activity for several years you get lots of large trees and in the south they grow like weeds. Get rain soaked ground and a strong wind and down they come.

      Also you have humans planting ‘pretty’ trees that break unlike Palms that bend.

      • Gail Combs says:

        Part of the discussion I have seen was hurricane/cyclone proofing by putting power lines and other utilities underground.

        Actually if you are going to live in a hurricane prone area BUILD for hurricanes. It is not like the technology doesn’t exist.

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