Arctic Sea Ice Expanding

The melt season in the Arctic has crashed and burned several weeks early. At least for now …

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Experts describe this very slow melt in August as a “climate emergency” and say we “aren’t paying attention.” 

But they are wrong. I am paying close attention to their endless stream of lies and propaganda.

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48 Responses to Arctic Sea Ice Expanding

  1. Gerald Machnee says:

    Did I beat griff?

    • Stewart Pid says:

      Griff is both gob smacked and in shock that the arctic won’t melt as commanded by the obsessive-compulsive alarmist shills. With arctic ice increasing smartly & arctic temperatures plummeting the Griffturd / Grifftard is as nervous as a shit house rat … his entire lifes work of nonsensical alarmist rants is for nothing. His indepth studies of the Guardian all wasted ;-)

  2. spike55 says:

    Remember that “scare” picture of sled dogs on melting ice

    OOPS, another from 1984. Quite a normal occurrence.

    https://i2.wp.com/wattsupwiththat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/arctic-water-sled-dog.jpg?zoom=2.25&fit=700%2C421&ssl=1

  3. xenomoly says:

    What Griff should do is change tactics and say that ice gain in the arctic temporarily is a necessary result of increased CO2. The increased CO2 causes increased heating and evaporation which leads to more precipitation. The increased arctic precipitation causes sea ice extent to increase. This is all just a predictable result of the evils of Man Made Climate Catastrophe. Because for the next 20 years or so it will be gaining sea ice extent on average and he is going to need to change tactics to sell his bullshit.

    • Disillusioned says:

      Alarmunists have always morphed their alarmunism with changes in the weather. They can never make up their pea-brained minds, fickle as the…. weather, as they call ALL of it Climate Change ™. Does not matter if it fits the original AGW hyped-pothesis in the least. Which is why I got off the AGW train.

  4. Nicholas McGinley says:

    Not paying attention!
    Hah!
    Just when you think they are at the pinstop of Maximum Possible Stupidity, they go and set a new standard for how idiotically a fool can spew nonsense.

  5. Joe in Wyo says:

    There apoear to be pleasure craft or sailing ships trying to grt thru
    route 7 of the northwest passage….. the ship i was following online,
    the Alioth, has been holed-up in a bay for several days.
    Does anyone think they will get thru safely?? Looks like new ice forming but its hard to tell.
    I just hope they stay safe. Thanks.

    • Phil. says:

      They broke a gear box and are waiting in Cambridge Bay for a replacement part I believe. The other yachts that were with them en route are almost through the NWP.

      • spike55 says:

        Why not use the route that Larsen used in 1944 ?

        Surely with all this Arctic sea ice loss in the last 30-40 years, it must be open this year ;-)

      • Phil. says:

        They appear to have repaired the damage and are now continuing their journey.

        • spike55 says:

          But not through the Prince of Wales Strait like Larsen did in 1944.

        • Phil. says:

          Now clearing Point Barrow.

          • Gator says:

            Nobody cares. Except that they are wasting precious time and money that could be used to help people who actually need help.

            Self serving a55holes.

          • Phil. says:

            Interesting leftist outlook that feels that you should decide how someone spends his money. If someone wants to sail his yacht around the americas that’s his business. Incidentally spending money in poor communities en route.

          • Gator says:

            Phail, only you would think of demanding that others spend their money at the point of a gun. I speak in terms of morality, while you think in terms of government tyranny.

            I am simply pointing out that self absorbed a55holes are wasting precious resources on a doomer fantasy while tens of thousands needlessly starve daily. I never once said that their money should be confiscated and spent on political agendas.

            Project much? LOL

            I voluntarily give monthly to save the lives of those for whom you could not care less. It really is telling that you would have a problem saving the lives of poor brown people. Why do you hate them so very much?

          • Phil. says:

            Phail, only you would think of demanding that others spend their money at the point of a gun. I speak in terms of morality, while you think in terms of government tyranny.

            I don’t know where you get that from Gator, I’ve never mentioned such things I was just responding to a post about yachts sailing the NW Passage.

            I am simply pointing out that self absorbed a55holes are wasting precious resources on a doomer fantasy while tens of thousands needlessly starve daily. I never once said that their money should be confiscated and spent on political agendas.

            What’s the ‘doomer fantasy’ about sailing the NW passage? You said that they should spend their money on other things, not I.

            Project much? LOL

            It appears that you do.

            I voluntarily give monthly to save the lives of those for whom you could not care less. It really is telling that you would have a problem saving the lives of poor brown people. Why do you hate them so very much?

            I have no problem ‘saving the lives of poor brown people’ and have never posted anything that would suggest that. In fact I find it disturbing that our President objects to spending money to save the lives of ‘poor brown people’ even when they’re US citizens recovering from a disaster.

          • Gator says:

            I don’t know where you get that from Gator, I’ve never mentioned such things I was just responding to a post about yachts sailing the NW Passage.

            Gee Phail, I don’t know. Maybe it is your constant support of alarmists memes and your refusal to ever criticized the climate doomers. You lefties are the most self unaware bunch I have ever met, totally self absorbed. You honestly do not remember attacking Tony’s efforts to calm the conversation for years now? LOL

            What’s the ‘doomer fantasy’ about sailing the NW passage? You said that they should spend their money on other things, not I.

            They should spend their money on other things. But instead they waste money on a doomer fantasy of an Arctic “death spiral”, all because alarmist grantologists have an agenda and have convinced them there is no greater call.

            It appears that you do.

            Classic!!! LOL

            I have no problem ‘saving the lives of poor brown people’ and have never posted anything that would suggest that.

            True, you have never posted anything that shows you care. All of your posts regarding the Arctic are meant to keep the alarmism going, which in turn keeps the money away from those who need it most.

            In fact I find it disturbing that our President objects to spending money to save the lives of ‘poor brown people’ even when they’re US citizens recovering from a disaster.

            A charge with zero references. Typical.

            Now let me educate you, and then you can decide whether or not the lives of poor brown people are more important than meaningless ice.

            These were the bad projects. As you might see the bottom of the list was climate change. This offends a lot of people, and that’s probably one of the things where people will say I shouldn’t come back, either. And I’d like to talk about that, because that’s really curious. Why is it it came up? And I’ll actually also try to get back to this because it’s probably one of the things that we’ll disagree with on the list that you wrote down.

            The reason why they came up with saying that Kyoto — or doing something more than Kyoto — is a bad deal is simply because it’s very inefficient. It’s not saying that global warming is not happening. It’s not saying that it’s not a big problem. But it’s saying that what we can do about it is very little, at a very high cost. What they basically show us, the average of all macroeconomic models, is that Kyoto, if everyone agreed, would cost about 150 billion dollars a year. That’s a substantial amount of money. That’s two to three times the global development aid that we give the Third World every year. Yet it would do very little good. All models show it will postpone warming for about six years in 2100. So the guy in Bangladesh who gets a flood in 2100 can wait until 2106. Which is a little good, but not very much good. So the idea here really is to say, well, we’ve spent a lot of money doing a little good.

            And just to give you a sense of reference, the U.N. actually estimate that for half that amount, for about 75 billion dollars a year, we could solve all major basic problems in the world. We could give clean drinking water, sanitation, basic healthcare and education to every single human being on the planet. So we have to ask ourselves, do we want to spend twice the amount on doing very little good? Or half the amount on doing an amazing amount of good? And that is really why it becomes a bad project. It’s not to say that if we had all the money in the world, we wouldn’t want to do it. But it’s to say, when we don’t, it’s just simply not our first priority.

            http://www.ted.com/talks/bjorn_lomborg_sets_global_priorities/transcript?language=en

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dtbn9zBfJSs

            Go ahead and argue against life Phail. It makes you lefties look so intelligent and caring.

          • Phil. says:

            Now made a official transit of the NW Passage by entering the Bering Strait.
            “Transiting the North West Passage: Any vessel crossing both the entry to the Bering Strait and Davis Strait (or vice versa) is deemed to have made a full transit of the Northwest Passage.”

          • Gator says:

            There goes Phail again, whistling past the graveyard. What’s another 20,000 dead today? Phail has an agenda! To Hell with the poor brown people.

          • spike55 says:

            Still “Skulking”

            There is just WAY TOO MUCH sea ice up there this year to do anything else.

            Way more that the Holocene “normal”,

            wouldn’t you agree, PHAIL (or you can continue to LIE to yourself like a sad excremental POS.)

  6. Wayne says:

    I searched MSM today for stories on how the Arctic Apocalypse is currently on hold but couldn’t find any. What am I doing wrong?

  7. Andy says:

    Very slow melt currently as mentioned, it is still slightly decreasing, according to the Jaxa spreadsheet but not by much.

    It will be interesting to see if this is the lowest point, which is early, or whether it will have a lowest sometime in September. It will depend on the weather and of course winds have more of an effect at this time of year.

    Being lower than 2012 was always going to be unlikely, whether it even gets to sub 4 million km2 is in doubt. My guess was for 4 million earlier this year. It still will be pretty low compared to recent years, though obviously not as low as in the Holocene ….

    Andy

    • Disillusioned says:

      …though obviously not as low as in the Holocene ….

      Huh?!? What is with the past tense? In which epoch do you think we are living?

      • Gator says:

        I wondered the exact same thing. It appears that he is living in the Andyandyocene. Everything Andy Andy, all the Andy Andy time.

    • spike55 says:

      “It still will be pretty low compared to recent years, though obviously not as low as in the Holocene”

      No, about the same as the last decade or so.

      Still in the top 5% or so, actually.

      Only a bit down from the extreme high levels of the late 1970s.

      One heck of a lot of sea ice up there, wouldn’t you say !

  8. Psalmon says:

    FYI your blog tells me I’ve been blocked. I posted a response to Gator, as usual a thoughtful and polite one…within the hour I’m blocked.

    You should look into it. Just checking here again.

    Psalmon.

  9. Ronald Clutz says:

    Joe, the NWP is less icy this year after being impassable in 2018. It looks likely route 7 will work, though no one knows when refreezing will start. Details here:
    https://rclutz.wordpress.com/2019/08/29/northwest-passage-update-2019-08-28/

    • Joe in Wyo says:

      Thanks for the reply. That info from your link is very good.
      I wish them all safe travels. Reading some of their blogs it seems
      to be very difficult to sail thru safely…
      Constantly on the watch for ice with little to no sleep.
      Thanks again

      • Phil. says:

        Very little ice to worry about, only one notable area which took about a day to traverse. Randall had the most difficulty as he was sailing solo.
        https://youtu.be/rCLw_DzAu-Q?t=51

        • Gator says:

          Who is worried about ice? Why would anyone ever worry about ice? Ice is just frozen water, and it is an anomaly in the Arctic for this epoch.

          Why does Phail spend so much of his time worrying about ice and caring nothing for the millions of poor brown people who will perish because of climate alarmism?

          These were the bad projects. As you might see the bottom of the list was climate change. This offends a lot of people, and that’s probably one of the things where people will say I shouldn’t come back, either. And I’d like to talk about that, because that’s really curious. Why is it it came up? And I’ll actually also try to get back to this because it’s probably one of the things that we’ll disagree with on the list that you wrote down.

          The reason why they came up with saying that Kyoto — or doing something more than Kyoto — is a bad deal is simply because it’s very inefficient. It’s not saying that global warming is not happening. It’s not saying that it’s not a big problem. But it’s saying that what we can do about it is very little, at a very high cost. What they basically show us, the average of all macroeconomic models, is that Kyoto, if everyone agreed, would cost about 150 billion dollars a year. That’s a substantial amount of money. That’s two to three times the global development aid that we give the Third World every year. Yet it would do very little good. All models show it will postpone warming for about six years in 2100. So the guy in Bangladesh who gets a flood in 2100 can wait until 2106. Which is a little good, but not very much good. So the idea here really is to say, well, we’ve spent a lot of money doing a little good.

          And just to give you a sense of reference, the U.N. actually estimate that for half that amount, for about 75 billion dollars a year, we could solve all major basic problems in the world. We could give clean drinking water, sanitation, basic healthcare and education to every single human being on the planet. So we have to ask ourselves, do we want to spend twice the amount on doing very little good? Or half the amount on doing an amazing amount of good? And that is really why it becomes a bad project. It’s not to say that if we had all the money in the world, we wouldn’t want to do it. But it’s to say, when we don’t, it’s just simply not our first priority.

          http://www.ted.com/talks/bjorn_lomborg_sets_global_priorities/transcript?language=en

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dtbn9zBfJSs

          Go ahead and argue against saving human lives Phail, it really helps bolster your reputation, and integrity.

          • Phil. says:

            Gator says:
            September 10, 2019 at 6:12 pm
            Who is worried about ice? Why would anyone ever worry about ice? Ice is just frozen water, and it is an anomaly in the Arctic for this epoch.

            If you’re trying to sail through the NW Passage of course you worry about ice!
            Why does Phail spend so much of his time worrying about ice

            I don’t, but apparently Tony does because he keeps posting about it. When he makes erroneous statements I correct them and I sometimes respond to other comments.
            You on the other hand don’t discuss the subject and just resort to political attacks like the one above which have no relationship to anything I’ve posted.

          • Gator says:

            Once again, a major Phail, and classical psychological projection.

            Tony does because he keeps posting about it.

            Tony works to counter alarmism Phail. His is a noble body of work, yours is genocide. You work to keep the alarmism alive and well, denying precious resources to women and children who will die a horrible death, needlessly.

            If you actually cared about poor brown people, you would stop supporting climate genocide, but you don’t, so you do.

            For a moment I thought maybe you were intelligent enough to leave this thread with your tail between your legs, but apparently you just are not all that bright. But with you it’s all about the leftist agenda, all the time, and damn the body count.

            Please keep arguing with saving lives Phail, it will ultimately be the downfall of you humanity hating doomers.

          • Phil. says:

            Tony works to counter alarmism Phail. His is a noble body of work,

            That works better when he tells the truth, making obviously false statements destroys credibility.

          • Gator says:

            Phail, if you actually cared about truth, you would be attacking alarmists. But you don’t, ever.

            You hide behind a mask of “truth telling” when in reality you are a useful idiot for the left and their agenda. You are the definition of hypocrite, so don’t give me that bullshit about “truth”.

            The “truth” is what Lomborg detailed, that you scumbags do not care about poor brown people. Even when confronted with the facts about how much death your alarmist buddies are dealing out daily, you just don’t give a damn.

            … making obviously false statements destroys credibility.

            What does denying life saving resources, because you have a leftist hard on, say about your credibility?

            In fact, I am surprised you can even spell credibility, as you clearly do not apply the same measure to your alarmist leftist grantologist poor brown people hating heroes.

            But please, keep on hating poor brown people and destroying your own credibility Phail.

          • spike55 says:

            “making obviously false statements destroys credibility.”

            Which is why YOU have ZERO credibility, phailure.

            You CANNOT allow yourself to TELL THE TRUTH.

            Come on phail again.

            repeat the facts

            1. Arctic sea ice extent is still higher than for most of the Holocene.

            2. the late 1970s was a short period of EXTREME sea ice extent up there with the LIA.

            3. There is still ONE HECK OF A LOT of sea ice up there.

            Until you can admit the truth to yourself, you continue to be a lying P.O.S. !

        • spike55 says:

          Still skulking about sailing through the southernmost route. how pathetic..

          Unlike in 1944 when Larson took the route through Prince of Wales Strait.

          Prince of Wales Strait hasn’t been sailed since then.

          SO MUCH SEA ICE up there. !

          Far more than for NEARLY ALL OF THE LAST 10,000 years

          • Phil. says:

            spike55 says:
            September 10, 2019 at 8:48 pm
            Still skulking about sailing through the southernmost route. how pathetic..

            Unlike in 1944 when Larson took the route through Prince of Wales Strait.

            Prince of Wales Strait hasn’t been sailed since then.

            Not true of course, that route has been sailed on several occasions since then.
            2010: Dione Sky (46 m motor yacht)
            Octopus (128 m motor yacht)
            2012: Coriolis 14 (25 m yacht)
            Octopus (128 m motor yacht)

            Some have even sailed via McClure:
            2012: Belzebub II (9∙4 m yacht)
            Polar Bound (14·6 m motorboat)

          • spike55 says:

            Poor phail, fell straight in it

            You have just shown that 2012, after the big storm made it far lower than every year since was similar to 1944.

            No satellite assistance of course to the guys in 2012, right phail.

            Where’s all the ones since then, that you have PHAILED to mention.

            2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019.. ???

            Take another faceplant, Phailure.

          • Disillusioned says:

            Phil said, …that route has been sailed on several occasions since then.
            2010: Dione Sky (46 m motor yacht)
            Octopus (128 m motor yacht)
            2012: Coriolis 14 (25 m yacht)
            Octopus (128 m motor yacht)

            spike said: “Where’s all the ones since then, that you have PHAILED to mention.

            2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019.. ???

            Phoiled?

          • Phil. says:

            You have just shown that 2012, after the big storm made it far lower than every year since was similar to 1944.

            2010 came before 2012 Spike! Also you said that:
            Prince of Wales Strait hasn’t been sailed since then (1944)

          • spike55 says:

            And Phail doubles down on his PHAILURE

            “Where’s all the ones since then, that you have PHAILED to mention.

            2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019.. ???”

            Where is you TELLING THE TRUTH.??

            What a pathetic lying pos you are Phail.

            So pathetic you even have to LIE to yourself.

          • spike55 says:

            Come on little worm, How many have sailed Prince of Wales Strait this year.

            https://i.postimg.cc/8PYh6ZSc/Po-WS-Sept2019.jpg

            Gees there’s one heck of a lot of sea ice isn’t there, Phail. !

            Keep LYING to yourself, its all you have in your pathetic life.

        • spike55 says:

          Great that they have satellites to show them where the sea ice is, hey Phailure

          Larson didn’t when he sailed the Prince of Wales passage in 1944, nor Amundsen in 1903

          Gees, there really is ONE HECK OF A LOT OF SEA ICE up there, isn’t there, phailure.

          Not quite as much as during the LIA or the similar EXTREMES of the late 1970s, But FAR MORE than for most of the last 10,000 years

          Come on Phailure, I dare you to state this truth.

          Or are you going to continue to LIE to yourself as some weird sort of self-flagellation?

  10. Al Shelton says:

    Will one of you knowledgeable people discuss the effects of wind during the summer lows?
    Or is the wind not significant? I say that it must be…….

  11. spike55 says:

    Looks like its turning now.

    Still above 4 Wadhams, just like all the last decade or so except 2012.

    Still WAY ABOVE the Holocene normal.

    Still ONE HECK OF A LOT of sea ice up there.

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