Picking Cherries In New York Wine Country

I was born in New Mexico, but my life began in Ithaca, New York. I am in the spectacular Finger Lakes country for a few days, and thought I would check in with the New York Times about the future climate here.

How Much Hotter Is Your Hometown Than When You Were Born? – The New York Times

The New York Times has dates going back to 1921 in their menu – but if you submit a date before 1960, this message comes up:

Our dataset goes back to 1960

There is plenty of data from before 1960. But they hide it because it completely destroys their “climate change” propaganda. Ithaca was much hotter when CO2 levels were lower. The 1960 start date is carefully cherry-picked.

Then they make a forecast of Ithaca burning up, based on hiding historical data and models which are completely discredited by the data they are hiding.

Ithaca was much hotter before I was born. But the New York Times has no interest in facts. They are pushing propaganda towards a political goal.

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41 Responses to Picking Cherries In New York Wine Country

  1. Mike says:

    What’s the source of these temps Tony?

    • RW says:

      Tony’s source is NOAA. His graphs are from NOAA’s ushcn (a land surface station data set), which is rolled into their global historical climate network (ghcn) land surface data set. The daily GHCN data base unzipped is huge. 30 gigs or so. You can fetxh yourself.easily enough from noaa’s website (an then write a text reading script) or download Tony’s python program.

  2. Gator says:

    How much hotter is your hometown than when the Finger Lakes were carved out by continental glaciers?

  3. rah says:

    So in this case instead of altering the data they just omit it. But of course anyone that believes that the NYT has anything to do with objective reporting of all facts and evidence on any subjects in any section of their paper or website is just a leftist tool. Heck they even arrange their method of sampling so as to skew the results for their Best Sellers List towards the ideological direction they prefer.

    • Disillusioned says:

      Heck they even arrange their method of sampling so as to skew the results for their Best Sellers List towards the ideological direction they prefer.

      Not surprised.

  4. jose says:

    Dear Mr. Heller:
    Thanks so much again for your great service exposing the liers at the climate mafia. All of your graphics reveal the hidden truth. Would you please facilitate a link to your source with every temperature graphic?. It would be so good to be able to demonstrate that your data is available, sourceable, and from a truthful source when I share your blog or videos.
    Regards, Jose.
    https://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Average-May-September-Daily-Maximum-Temperature-At-Ithaca-New-York.png

    • ClimateYogi says:

      Jose , you can download the NOAA unadjusted data for the USHCN data set and use Tony’s Unhiding the Decline software to generate your own graphs . Sure it is more work for you but will be the proof you need to justify your position . Good luck !

  5. Scissor says:

    My parents lived through much tougher times, including hotter temperatures and generally poorer weather. Everything and everyone was generally poorer.

    But the children today, like poor Greta who chooses to travel across the Atlantic on a high-tech, composite, titanium and carbon fiber sail boat instead of flying in relative comfort, have to sometimes venture outside where it’s not air conditioned.

    When my parents were children, air conditioning was unheard of. Many farms didn’t have electricity, so cooling fans weren’t used and on top of that screened doors were common but screened windows were not. There were a lot of bugs on farms, including biting flies and often mosquitoes.

    Still as a teenager, my father had the pleasure of sailing the Pacific courtesy of the U.S. Navy. Of course this involved shooting and being shot back at. I’m fortunate to be here, to enjoy my comfort, sitting in my chair at a comfortable 75F, whereas it’s 59F only just outside. My father survived a lot of close calls and battles.

    I’m going to wait for it to warm a little before riding my bike, which has many Japanese components, to work. It’s better to be in trade wars than shooting wars, and it’s better to have central heat and air conditioning.

    The radio said this morning that we could set the high temperature record for the date here today. I doubt it, but in any case, I will know that our life is easier.

    • Gator says:

      But the children today, like poor Greta who chooses to travel across the Atlantic on a high-tech, composite, titanium and carbon fiber sail boat instead of flying in relative comfort, have to sometimes venture outside where it’s not air conditioned.

      It’s worse than you think…

      Climate crusader Greta Thunberg’s “principled” trip across the Atlantic in a carbon fibre and non recyclable plastic boat is going to require at least four crew members to fly across the Atlantic.

      https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/18/doh-climate-messiah-greta-thunbergs-plastic-boat-trip-will-result-in-two-airline-flights/

      Virtue signaling at its worst. Even worse than electric cars charging on portable diesel generators. What a complete and meaningless farce.

      • KevinPaul says:

        Recently a group of dole bludging disheveled scruffs padlocked themselves to train tracks in a stupid attempt to stop a coal train.
        New Zealand exports some of the worlds’ cleanest burning coking coal, these drop kicks may have even used locks and chains produced by coal from the very same source they were protesting against. Do these idiots really want to return to the bronze age, or maybe smoking dope and protesting all day is more fun than working for a living.

        • prometheus says:

          Bronze age? They want to eliminate humans entirely. After all, we have done nothing whatsoever positive for the environment.

  6. rah says:

    Like visiting the area in car but not so much in the Big Truck.

  7. Emslander says:

    I remember exactly where I was playing on June 20, 1954 at 4:45 pm in a small town in Illinois when I heard my mother call out to my dad that the temperature had reached 114 degrees, according to the radio. That was the record temperature for that town and for all of Illinois until it was removed from the records by the federal government. It showed up on the Weather Channel every June 20 when they showed the records for the date along with local weather statistics. I used to look for it.

    If the scam isn’t quashed before old guys like me can attest to real experience, like the numerous days over 100 degrees every summer in the Midwest before 1970, the propaganda war will have been won by the neo-Stalinists.

    • -B- says:

      The only alternative is to pass down the memory. My grandmother would tell me with every heat wave that it was hotter in the 1930s.

      My childhood conditioning was the opposite, the brutal snow and cold of the late 1970s and mid 1980s. I would built snow forts that would last for a month or more. (Chicago is freeze-thaw in winter and all it takes is a sunny day or two to poke above freezing to ruin a snow fort) In recent years they closed schools for days warmer where I went to school. Same with days with less snow. How frightful they make kids of the weather these days.

      They try to tell me recent winter cold was because of ‘climate change’ and carbon sins. Nonsense.

      • Disillusioned says:

        I walked across the Ohio River in January 1978.

        I am not Jesus.

        • rah says:

          Ah yet. The Blizzard of 1978 during the height of the Ice Age scare. I was walking in some places 20′ about ground level and I’m not Jesus either. Some of the lowest pressures ever recorded in the lower 48 not associated with a cyclonic storm and a new low pressure record recorded up at Sarnia, Canada.
          https://www.weather.gov/iln/19780126
          Imagine what the headlines would be if something like that happened this coming winter!

          • paul courtney says:

            rah: Unless we change out the cohort of headline writers, the guys we’ve had for the last fifty years or so will not blush to report like so:
            Unprecedented low pressure reading; climate change is here, now!

      • Disillusioned says:

        The next time I walk across the Ohio River will likely be around 2040, about which time the AMO shall bottom, again.

        One thing will be certain – it will be because the climate changed. The cycle will repeat itself. Again.

        What will Academia and the political class be doing? Repeating themselves? Again?

    • Keith Brandt says:

      FWIW, Wikipedia shows the record for Illinois to be 117 at East St. Louis on July 14, 1954.

      • Emslander says:

        Then Wikipedia has revived some data. That’s good to hear. I had always thought that the record for the state was 114 on June 20, 1954, but your information does show the same heat wave being responsible.

  8. Petras says:

    What is the NYT graph showing? Number of days over 90? Why doesn’t it show only integer values for the historical data (like your graph)? Is their graph depicting the “expected number” of days over 90, not the actual number for the historical data?

  9. Old Goat says:

    Has anyone forcefully told The New York times, in no uncertain terms, and backed it up with information such as this?

    • neal s says:

      You are welcome to try it. But I don’t think this is an accident or a mistake on the part of NYT. They know what they are doing. This is not a simple oversight. This is not an honest mistake. The NYT does not have good intentions. Should it be pointed out, I think it likely that they would manufacture some lame excuses for ignoring older data.

      Here is a link to the climate impact lab FAQ on this …
      http://www.impactlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Climate-Impact-Lab-FAQ-NYT-90-degrees.pdf

      And their methodology … http://www.impactlab.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/CIL_Days-over-90_Method.pdf

      Since they are using Berkeley Earth temperatures, which are already somewhat polluted, even if they went back in time further, the results still would not be meaningful or accurate.

      Nothing will be gained by trying to bring this to their attention. But feel free to try, and let us know how it turns out for you.

    • rah says:

      Old Goat
      Expect the lack of accuracy to get only worse at the NYT. They are abandoning reporting hard news or even bothering with retractions. They will be fully and unabashedly in the leftist camp with no pretense of objectivity or lack of bias. Trump and Brexit must be stopped or the collectivist dreams they thought they were close to being realized will be severely damaged and set back many years.

  10. arn says:

    When you have to pick so many cherries you are 100% aware of how big the lie is and how much manipulation you need to keep the lie alive.

    It is really amazing how systematic their approach is.

  11. John F. Hultquist says:

    Note the spike to 20 in 1955.
    This was a region-wide heat event.
    I was in western Pennsylvania at the time, 170 miles SW of Ithaca.

  12. Brian D says:

    I found the files for USHCN monthly. You have the raw, time adjusted(TOBS), and final(FLs) data values right up to last month. I used 7-zip to unpack GZ, and TAR. Then access the station files with Excel. They have the values in degC and you must divide them by 100 (aka 1234 = 12.34). These files used to be with CDIAC, and they had a web interface that made it easy to download csv files for this info. It was degF then too. But their done with that.

    If anyone is interested to see how they do their “nature tricks” on individual stations, you can get the files here.
    ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ushcn/v2.5/

  13. KevinPaul says:

    My plum trees sensing the longer day light are now in full spring bloom, only problem, it’s too cold for the bees, I’ve only seen one drone, and I suspect he was booted out of the hive due to dwindling food. I’ve been out with a paint brush trying to cross pollinate but I fear little plum jam this season. Somethings not right, we’ve had a lot of late season snow.

    • Disillusioned says:

      Interesting. Thank you for sharing. And, thank you for posting here.

    • WolfgangBlack says:

      Here in South Carolina we have seen longer cold weather the past two springs and the plants and hummingbirds were seriously affected.
      Two years ago I had one flowering bush that was 15 years old die down to the root.

  14. John of Cloverdale, WA, Australia says:

    Tony, your temperature graph of Ithaca (5th graph down) correlates to the AMO index- surprise surprise!

    • spike55 says:

      Quite amazing how many graphs of un-tampered NH temperatures correlate with the AMO, isn’t it. ;-)

      And the AMO is starting to head downwards.

      The alarmists know this, hence their utter and complete PANIC and HYSTERIA. !!

      • Andy says:

        “And the AMO is starting to head downwards.”

        Which is odd because the Arctic sea ice seems to be still heading downwards as well if you look at summer minimums recently.

        The Antarctic sea ice loss is still low even though the Southern Annular Mode has changed from positive to negative in that time span.

        Perhaps there is some lag in both ? Or perhaps some people are clutching at straws for needing a mechanism that gives the results they want? :p

        Andy

        • spike55 says:

          Sorry you are basically ignorant about what the AMO is doing. pay some attention, if your green-sludge-mind will let you.

          You seem very proud of your ignorance.

          Artic sea ice will bottom out about the same as it has the last dozen years or so.

          Probably above 4 Wadhams, That is one heck of a lot of sea ice.

          It isn’t going to go anywhere near the low levels of the first 9000+ years of the Holocene

          Arctic sea ice extent still very high, barely recovered from the extreme high extents of the LIA and late 1970s, nowhere near down to even the MWP .

          Antarctic sea ice extent is basically within the range of the last many years, its above what it was in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2007, 2017 and 2018.

          Admit the facts little-andy.

          Your inept ignorance is bordering with that of griffool. !

          Why do you continue your ignorant climate change denial. !!

        • spike55 says:

          Your ignorance of the link between the AMO and NH temperature and sea ice is exactly what we would expect from your manic climate change denial, little-andy.

          Here is the AMO against Reykjavik real temperatures.. Its the same for basically anywhere in the NH

          https://i.postimg.cc/SxQfhDs4/amoreyk.jpg

          And here is the Arctic sea ice

          https://i.postimg.cc/FzZ25y1d/Arctic-Sea-Ice-Alekseev-2016-as-shown-in-Connolly-2017.jpg

          And here is Ireland temperatures vs AMO

          https://i.postimg.cc/3Nj6rrYV/Ireland_AMO_article.jpg

          Just some of the many that are available.

          You really ought to try not to display your wanton ignorance in every post you make, little-andy

        • spike55 says:

          Oh look , little-andy

          Arctic temperature has dropped below freezing, almost exactly on the long term summer average

          https://i.postimg.cc/c4g5b443/Arctic-temp-21-8-2019.jpg

          You are such a brainless ass-troll. !!

          • Andy says:

            Scientifically speaking what is a “Wadham”? And I mean scientifically speaking rather than internet.

            Can you give me a scientific link before I write you off as a redneck with a pickup truck?

            Just askin’

            ;)

  15. HayMaker says:

    Just checked Atlanta historic temps. Like HOTlanta most U.S. cities show no warming. NOAA does not allow access to city data before 1940’s ish. Hmmmmmm.

  16. Andy says:

    First fact of climate arguments is that both sides cherry pick.

    Tony, you cannot deny you cherry pick also ?

    It doesn’t bother me though as both sides do it, so evens out.

    Andy

    • spike55 says:

      Tony present all data that is available. Why is that “cherry-picking”.

      You don’t have any FACTS, you have brain-washed fantasies.

      Please point out where he has cherry-picked, or slime and grovel back into your fetid little troll hole.

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