Virtue Signaling For Only $9,000 / Mwh

Race to Green Grid Spurs 40,000% U.S. Price Hike, U.K. Blackout – Bloomberg

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34 Responses to Virtue Signaling For Only $9,000 / Mwh

  1. Prometheus says:

    And so we see that they couldn’t care less about those of us struggling to make ends meet. All they want is the perpetuation of their foul ideology at any cost. If poor people go bankrupt? Who cares. If my electricity gets interrupted, costing me lost earnings because my internet goes down? Who cares. If my medical equipment stops working because the electricity failed? Who cares. What a bunch of lying hypocrites.

    • Gator says:

      If we are poorer, we consume less, and we have less time and resources to fight their tyranny. That is their end game.

      • arn says:

        Poor people vote by default socialism.
        Saul Alinsky knew this-that’s why his plan was to create massive poverty by taxation.
        (and co2 is just another tax and just the soft beginning.
        It will then turn out the same fadcist behemoth the EU is which dictates other countries what to do and even forbid them to leave)

        • Robertv says:

          Direct taxes and freedom don’t fit in the same country because direct taxes require oppressive big government.

          • Gator says:

            Where would you suggest living Robert? I’m guessing that you can move anytime you like. In which country would you be safe paying zero taxes?

            United Arab Emirates?
            Oman?
            Bahrain?
            Qatar?
            Saudi Arabia?
            Kuwait?

            Just pick one. Easy peasy.

    • -B- says:

      If everyone else is poor and struggling or dependent on government they retain power.

      All they need to do to solve poverty is have a free market but they don’t because a free market is decentralized. The cronies and government people don’t get to wet their beaks. There’s no power in that. No controlling access to energy or medical care or food.

      They never cared about anyone but themselves.

  2. RAY DANAHER says:

    When you would have a chance – Clock the Power Blackouts and Brown Outs in the Southern States of Australia – In particular New South Wales, Victoria, and South Australia. – It will be no coincidence, that when the full impact of Summer arrives in a few Months time here, the useless Gangrenous Green Majority who live there, on cue, will be complaining from the house tops, demanding supply from the Other States on the National Grid, because their Wind Farms are inadequate, and so the Circus rolls around waiting for a continuing inaction by the Responsible Authorities, and with more Press Conferences which will be presented forward in an attempt to apologetically explain away this Climate Change Fiasco accompanied by the Political Pressure to refrain from using Coal Fired Power which Australia has Billions of Tons EVERYWHERE – Another Symptom of the Narrative “The New World Order” –

  3. arn says:

    Can you imagine how many million % the prices would skyrocket after the green new deal kicks in and energy becomes as rare as unobtanium?

    • Disillusioned says:

      I do not want to imagine that.

    • Robertv says:

      Life again will be short and brutal.

      • arn says:

        It will be shorter and more brutal

        as those who had an average life expectancy of 20 years
        5000 years ago
        were able to fight had the necessary skills and will to survive + places to hunt and had the mental strength to take a lot of crap.
        A person that can barely survive a day without phone or internetaccess will become apathic and week after 3 days without food.
        Within 2 month big cities would lose 50% of their population and the weakened rest would then had to survive many terrible epidemic diseases as result of all the rotting corpses.

        And then they would realise that you need a constant and significant supply of energy to pump the water through the pipes to your home.
        And even this would no longer work the way it should
        =thirst,hunger,illnesses would wipe out 80% within 6 month.
        The rest had to fight organised gangs and the “smarter” guys would try to enter rural areas.

  4. GCSquared says:

    It’s interesting to take a look at the original article in its entirety. Elsewhere, the article argues against the subsidized, money-losing coal plants, while making no mention of the enormous subsidies to renewables. It reports fiascoes similar to this one, while praising how well renewables are working out in California and Texas (!) I speculate that the weird tenor of the article might come from Bloomberg’s owner inserting his editorial views into those of the primary reporters: at the end, there’s this:

    “(Michael R. Bloomberg, the founder and majority stakeholder of Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg News, has committed $500 million to launch Beyond Carbon, a campaign aimed at closing the remaining coal-powered plants in the U.S. by 2030 and slowing the construction of new gas plants.)”

    That’s it, folks. First we get rid of existing power sources, then figure out how to make the new ones work, using futurisitc “dream” batteries and other yet-to-be-invented technologies.

    • Gator says:

      Coal is not subsidized, it does not receive any money from the government. The left loves conflating subsidies with tax breaks. Only renewables receive subsidies.

      • Disillusioned says:

        A “Greener Grid”? An Orwellian term if I ever heard one. CO2 is what makes the earth green.

        “Renewables” is another Orwellian term.

        Of course, let’s not forget “sustainable.”

        “Renewables” are not “green.” Their high-costs, including from high maintenance are not “sustainable.”

        People throw around these b*llsh*t terms above all the time, but they have no integrity – no accountability with reality. With globalist authoritarians, it is all lies, all the time. They never quit lying. We’re being fed bull turds and being told it is Beef Wellington. (From Colorado, of course…. miss you, friend) ;-)

  5. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    But they keep on telling us that solar and wind power is cheaper than coal.

    Now they tell us it is cheaper than coal some of the time, and only 400 times higher than coal other times.

    My electricity bill is much higher than it used to be.

    I am confused.

    They couldn’t be lying could they?

    Virtuous climate activists would never ever lie would they?

  6. Terry Shipman says:

    When my grandparents built the house I live in, in 1901, they didn’t need no stinkin’ electricity. They had oil lamps, a wood burning cook stove, a fireplace, a well out back to draw water, a cellar to store the canned goods my grandmother made, a small wooden structure called an outhouse that could even be used in the dead of winter with no danger of pipes freezing since there were none. My mother was one of eight children and in the dead of winter she and her sisters would huddle together in one bed under really thick blankets in an unheated upstairs bedroom. Ah, but my grandparents had the luxury of heat in the upstairs master bedroom. Their upstairs bedroom was directly above the downstairs living room where the fireplace was. My grandfather installed a vent in the ceiling directly above the fireplace which carried fireplace heat up through to the vent in the floor of the master bedroom. See? They didn’t need no CO2 emitting natural gas! We just got to get with the program and live like our ancestors lived. It builds character! Of course I must admit I am soft and spoiled and have all the modern utilities in this 118 year old house. Even indoor plumbing. Oh, the horror!

    • -B- says:

      The wood burning set up will not help you much since wood burning for heat is being outlawed. Especially in non-emission compliant fireplaces and stoves.

      Maybe your house is grandfathered in for now. Maybe. You’ve kept that fireplace wood burning and operational all these years, right?

      • Terry Shipman says:

        In 1967 my parents retired back to this house, her childhood home. She did an unwise “modernization” and removed a lot of historical details such as most of the transoms and several tall windows, replaced with aluminum windows. She also removed the fireplace and two of the three box flues. Since this house is on the National Register of Historic Places (placed in 1976) I am in the process of restoring it as my grandfather built it.

        Another bit of history. This small rural town received natural gas circa 1941. After cooking on a wood burning stove for forty years and raising eight children my grandmother got a natural gas cook stove to use until her death in 1948. Don’t you know she was thrilled? She didn’t live to see the municipal water system constructed in 1958 or the sewer system constructed in 1969. But she did enjoy the benefits of electricity beginning sometime in the 1930’s. No more oil lamps.

        My degree field is history (I wanted to major in physics but my math abilities were not up to the task) and I can see in my family’s history how life has been improved by the use of fossil fuels and the modern technology that has been developed because of it. Historical revisionism infuriates me. The MWP, the Roman Warming Period, the Little Ice Age are all well-documented in history. This is where my background in history comes in handy. So, I can also understand the warming and cooling periods in ages past, with no correlation to CO2, that the planet’s historians-geologists-speak of.

        I will rebuild the fireplace in the living room (and all the other historical details of the house that were removed) as my retirement job continues. But after due consideration I believe I will keep gas heat plus all the other modern conveniences of life. Might as well. The outhouse burned down about 50 years ago. No, I will not rebuild it.

        • GCSquared says:

          I admire your career choice. I happened to go in the other direction in my career, and only discovered the value of good history (vis-a-vis the Aesop fable type) late in life. IMHO, history is the data of politics, and consequently, the most subversive subject you can study. Probably why it isn’t encouraged more.

  7. Aussie says:

    This stupidity is also taking place in Australia.

    We keep hearing about “cheap renewable power” yet the bills skyrocket. Here they have an even more stupid idea, that renewable power takes precedence. So the coal fired generators have to try to scale back their output, which they are not designed to do…and the renewable crowd get paid regardless. At least in California they turn off the renewables first.

    The issue is that unreliable renewable providors need back up which is currently provided by coal. If the coal plants shut then we will have a disaster of huge proportions and backup power ocst is NEVER factored in when the renewable spruikers make their claims of low cost…

    I am at the stage where I believe that renewable supply, unless fully backed up, at the cost of the renewable providor (storage or generation) should be banned.

    • John K says:

      For anybody curious as to where all this madness is leading, Jo Nova gives a very informed and witty presentation on the Aussie madness here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYHX-Ib3Q5Q&pbjreload=10
      Highly recommended viewing

    • spike55 says:

      “So the coal fired generators have to try to scale back their output”

      Actually, TonyInOz showed that the coal fired power plants are still just churning on regardless. Same daily ups and down as they were 10 years ago

      Its the gas plants that are covering for the intermittency of wind and solar

  8. Gord says:

    Canada is voting today.
    Let us see what “green” duds they elect.
    The media was totally sucked in by the “climate crisis” even though none of them know what it means.

  9. G W Smith says:

    Wouldn’t you think they would eventually get the big picture? But we all know the story of the fool in love.

  10. Christopher Witzel says:

    Meanwhile californians are saving on their power bills as PG&E just shuts off the power for a week at a time. Look for a 25% savings on your monthly power bill as you live in cold and darkness.

  11. Bill says:

    Well, it’s obvious what causes the lack of wind – climate change! Of course, it’s also true that increased windy storms like hurricanes and tornadoes are also caused by climate change! Only there is no evidence that either hurricanes or tornadoes are increasing in frequency or intensity.

    I blame my confusion over this issue… on climate change! Increasing CO2 has crowded out the oxygen, making me feel lightheaded, causing lapses in reasoning ability, leading to an increased reliance on consensus rather than individual clear thinking.

  12. griff says:

    Hmmm… well let’s see: there are never power outages or brownouts when the power is fossil fuelled and there’s exceptional demand?

    As for example in Germany this year during a truly exceptional heat wave for the area…

    • neal s says:

      Tell me griff, is there any country that tries to use more renewable green energy than Germany?

      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-green-technology-record-power-generation-35-per-cent-renewables-solar-wind-turbines-a7820156.html

      So if Germany had trouble providing power recently, it is crazy that you would blame that on fossil fueled power generation. The rational observer would think that Germany had trouble precisely because they have attempted to minimize or eliminate fossil fueled power generation.

    • Gator says:

      Even if fossil fuel power was as unreliable as renewables, at 40,000% less, I’ll still take it all week long and twice on Sundays. But given that fossil fuels rarely ever have outages, there is no reason for me to ever consider unaffordables and unreliables.

      Glad you mentioned Germany as an example of problems with renewables, pointing out its very predictable issues with their unreliable and grossly expensive grid…

      Germany has been called “the world’s first major renewable energy economy”.

      Congratulations! LOL

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