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“Honest Ads” Tesla EV commercial parody: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRUg2NXmLd0
You can find YT vids showing the difficulties in extreme temps EV’s have. Watched some a while back. NO THANKS! Here in N MN, would have to have sled dogs on hand to get around. 🙂
Mama says: Stupid is as stupid does!
Rah says: There is no cure for stupid.
Mama also says – Life is like a box of chocolate.
You always know what you get at the backside of the box.
Yeah, but all that virtue signaling you get – and that you’re saving the planet and human lives – is well worth it. Oh, wait …. https://youtu.be/zRUg2NXmLd0?t=106
Look! They did such a good job of combating global warming that their cars are now frozen?
As Ross Perot would say, “Problem solved.”
And Chicago was warm compared to Alberta.
Pushing Teslas will become a national sport in all countries once they reach net zero.
“Rah says: There is no cure for stupid”
Very true, but the stupid owners need to RTFM. (Read the f*****g manual)
“Like any new technology, there’s a learning curve for people,” said Mark Bilek of the Chicago Auto Trade Association.
Bilek said all EVs can have problems dealing with extreme cold, and drivers need to hit their preconditioning button before they charge their battery.
“It’s not plug and go. You have to precondition the battery, meaning that you have to get the battery up to the optimal temperature to accept a fast charge,” said Bilek.
https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/dead-teslas-oak-brook
Getting it up to the optimum temperature may require waiting a few days or a few months, depending where you are.
I imagine some of them probably did precondition (warm) their batteries. But that was for naught. It seems the main issue was that it was too cold for the chargers work properly. Sitting there for hours waiting would have negated any preconditioning, and soon enough their preconditioned battery would become a cold, dead battery.
Wow, the news anchor says “I never thought I would say this, but it’s true, the cold temperatures are causing headaches for owners looking to charge their cars”. What planet are these people from?
It has always been a certainty that this would happen.
Sure the instructions don’t include talking to it nice?
I guess Teslas were a good bet so long as there actually was global warming. Maybe wait until the average global temperature returns to 77F and try again? Maybe 20 million years from now?
The internal resistance of all batteries rises when cold, prolonging charge times noticeably. This also affects discharge performance noticeably with Li-ion. Many battery users are unaware that consumer-grade lithium-ion batteries cannot be charged below 0°C (32°F). [according to Google].
I live in Alberta and it was -44C the other night.
Will preconditioning still work at these low temperatures?
I doubt it. [only in a heated garage].
Also there is the wind chill factor.
Interesting Consumer Reports interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2e5An0_q3Q
Over the last three model years (averaged), CR reliability reports showed that:
-Electric vehicles were 79% less reliable than their internal combustion engine counterparts. (They were praising Tesla as the best of all EVs … and blamed their problems on being new technology, and predicted that given time, it will get better.
?????? They just could not wrap their heads around the myriad problems with mobile electric technology. Read on.)
-Plug-in hybrid electric vehicles were 146% less reliable.
-Hybrids were 26% more reliable than ICE (they praised Toyota for bringing up that percentage – noting that other manufacturers have problems with hybrid technology).
Two of the three CR ‘experts were clearly guilty of EV bias. A questioner – whose *stated* primary requirement was reliability – was wondering whether to purchase a Toyota Corolla or a Tesla Model 3. They steered the questioner to the Tesla model 3! They had just finished discussing Tesla reliability problems and then steered a questioner away from the MOST reliable car on the planet – which is the Toyota Corolla – to one of the least reliable cars on the planet. My jaw dropped. SMH
My experience with cell phone batteries, when we were trying to take pictures in the cold, was that they lasted less than an hour. More like a half hour. I don’t imagine that the Tesla batteries are much better. It may just be a physical property of the system and cannot be overcome.
Tesla batteries are lithium ion. Lithium batteries, especially, work poorly in cold weather. I had a lithium battery in my motorcycle for a few months, but when it got cold the battery just didn’t put out much current. The amperage dropped to a point where the battery would not crank the starter motor. I went back to lead-acid batteries and, of course, the problem was solved. Teslas might be fine in Arizona — if you’ve got an electric vehicle fetish — but they’re never going to work very well in northern winters.
Even NPR ran a story on this:
https://www.npr.org/2024/01/16/1224913698/teslas-chicago-charging-extreme-cold
I own a Tesla myself, and I have a lot of fun with it. However before buying it more than sis years ago, I gathered a lot of information: one clear problem was charging in very low temperatures. All these problems have long been understood, and there’s really no solution other than having a warm home garage and 220 volt charging.
On the other hand, I’ve safely and easily pumped gasoline into my car at -20 degrees Fahrenheit and at 115 degrees F. Combustion engines are a much more flexible technology.
Ford are rethinking getting involved with pure plug-in EV’s – Why?
They lose $34,000 on each one they sell that’s why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chpq_67mTHk&ab_channel=TechMachine
The Don is quoted as saying that if he is elected POTUS he will get rid of the compulsion to buy electric cars.
That sounds to me like he just got elected!
A little off topic, but you have not posted much lately about Biden and gasoline prices lately. Although gasoline prices have dropped, I suspect Biden administration is manipulating the system for lower gas prices in the last three months.
I have a Toyota Camry hybrid for the last four years. The Camry keeps track of my gas mileage. When the EPA requires a change in gasoline formulation for winter, my gas mileage typically drops from 45 mpg to 40 mpg. Recently in the last two months, it has dropped even more than typical to around 37 mpg.
Being cynical, I suspect the Biden administration is either relaxing the regulations on gasoline formulation grades or not enforcing the regulations I suspect lower gas prices is simply selling lower grade gasoline. This suspicion needs to be investigated but seeing how Biden administration does other things, it is entirely possible.
Re your gas mileage – It sounds like your fuel is being diluted with more ethanol than normal, it’s cheaper than gasoline and does ruin your gas mileage.
I won’t use fuel with ethanol in it, both cars are diesel and the gasoline is used in motorcycles and garden machinery, so I don’t want ethanol in the fuel, it rots carbs and fuel pipes out, had a lot of problems with it.
EV Market dying like Disco slow but 100% to happen – the market of those who can afford a 3rd car they dont really need and the brainwashed Climate Changers has reached a low- it was a finite market and the end is near
Ford USA and GM are bleeding money making and attempting to sell battery EV’s.
Ford lose $ 34,000 on each EV they sell, various reports are out there but the gist of it is that they miscalculated the market for BEV’s, they listened to the politicians and the eco-freaks instead of the customers.